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Old 04-09-2009, 05:49 PM   #21
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Bank robbieries are a little diffrent then taking over a ship. I am not sure if he talks about the Somalian pirates in his book. It just got delivered to my house today so I plan on reading it this weekend.

Now if I was on a boat that was going near Somalia I personally would want to be armed. I am one of the guys that would put up a fight and not give in.

After US citizens have been taken hostage I think the US Navy will start patrolling those waters a bit more.
I wonder if there is a difference.

Because there have been some personal watercraft attacked by pirates and those were some mean ******* from the reports. Either A) they were trying to kill to get the boat or B) they changed their tactics.

But it does lead to credence that you don't hear about the attackers killing people on board. A few of the ships have been out there for a few months I think too.
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The answer is not to have civilians engage an armed advesary at sea. Attempt to dissuade the pirates with non-lethal means, utilize safe-rooms with "kill-switches" for engines/navigation systems and wait for support to arrive. - This keeps the cargo crews alive.

Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.
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Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.

Please stay in Texas.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:06 AM   #24
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How about the reason these guys began pirating. They were originally fisherman whose waters have been stripped of their resources, and their livelyhood, by foreign corporations doing essentially, the equivalent of strip mining in the ocean.
Are you justifying ocean piracy?
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No, I'm just trying to paint the whole picture. It doesn't help anything to villanize people and not try to understand how the situation was created. You end up only dealing with the symptoms, and not the root problem, and **** like this keeps happening.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:23 AM   #27
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I think in terms of mass destruction. Yes, I'm grinning.

Hiroshima got the message... don't you think Somalian pirates would too?

Not saying the US should do it, I'd give a thumbs up to whoever stepped up to the plate. Forget root causes and deter future incidents with one-big-bang.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:30 AM   #28
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I could say the same thing about Kentucky...
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Are you justifying ocean piracy?
Its all a matter of perspective. If you think about it, you could justify any social deviance
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I could say the same thing about Kentucky...
Too judgemental.

You think you're better than me?! Go swing on your "hero" Rudy's nuts.
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Rudy is a fucktard. Try again...
Can you get more judgmental than thinking dropping a bomb on thousands solves problems???
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Oh, maybe I wasn't clear enough.

I didn't mean on thousands, just on one pirate ship.
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Ah, ok, I did misunderstand that, sorry. That's not quite as absurd but It still doesn't stop future pirates from being created.
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The answer is not to have civilians engage an armed advesary at sea. Attempt to dissuade the pirates with non-lethal means, utilize safe-rooms with "kill-switches" for engines/navigation systems and wait for support to arrive. - This keeps the cargo crews alive.

Then hunt the pirates down when they are on land and execute them.
lol, bader is hardcore.
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lol, bader is hardcore.
Somalia is a non-regulated, governmentless breeding ground for lawlessness. How it got that way is currently irrelevant. The fact something needs to be done is not.

I agree it is a bit draconian, however in an environment in which force and brutality is the only recognized currency of respect, use it.

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kids smoking pot shouldn't even go to jail.

Violent crime and stealing my ****...death and hand chopping off. If you steal my ****, I'll kill you. No, seriously...beware of bleeding heart libs with guns. Molan Labe.
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I'm going to steal your ---- virginity. What now!
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I'm going to steal your ---- virginity. What now!
poz or neg?
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Someone tell these two we are taking about real Pirates, not butt-pirates!
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Poz baby, poz.
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