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Old 12-26-2009, 08:52 PM   #21
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This thread motivates my vasectomy. Its time.
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God damn I hate that word. They are UAVs, and often they still need a pilot.

I say you do what sets you and your family up for success in the long run.
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:01 AM   #24
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1) Multi-engine turbine time with major air carrier for no pay >>> single-engine CFI (or CFII) time
This.

If you can figure out a way to get AA to put you in the right seat of an ERJ/CRJ for a while, that sounds like a far better deal than spending the next thousand hours in a 152.

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They also cut your hiring minimums in half.
What are the hiring minimums? IOW, if you still need another couple hundred hours before they'll let you get behind the wheel, then now probably isn't a good time to choose a guaranteed interview over grinding out some time as a CFI. If, OTOH, you'll be in a position to fly something without pistons at the end of the internship, then it sounds like the benefits justify a few months of impoverished servitude.
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:09 AM   #25
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After the American Airlines internship, I would need an additional 50 multi to get the job. This would also be for American Eagle so that would be with a D-8 or whatever they are using as their small turbine aircraft. No internship is going to put you in a jet, I still have to do my time with the props for a little longer.
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This would also be for American Eagle so that would be with a D-8 or whatever they are using as their small turbine aircraft.
From what I can find, the AE fleet consists entirely of CRJs and ERJs. Executive Airlines, which wears the AE livery, flies ATRs.

So, what would the plan be to get those additional 50 hours multi-engine?
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:07 AM   #27
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God damn I hate that word. They are UAVs, and often they still need a pilot.

I say you do what sets you and your family up for success in the long run.
Sorry, I was just going off what my Dad called them. He is the military man, not I. If you pilot the UAV does that count for actual flight hours?

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Old 12-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #28
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So what does the internship entail? What exactly would you be doing? Dispatch? Dumping blue juice? That should have been my first question...
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Internship consists of jump seat time, touring of different AA facilities across the country, working on updating operation manuals, simulator time, and etc.

As far as the 50 hours...I'm not exactly sure. That's probably the part where I become good friends with someone with a twin engine whatever.
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As far as the 50 hours...I'm not exactly sure. That's probably the part where I become good friends with someone with a twin engine whatever.
This is where my knowledge starts to get a little hazy. If AA will let you fly their sim for a while, wouldn't that count towards your goal?
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Yes it could possibly if I have an associated ground school to go a long with that simulator time. I can't merely fly a simulator and automatically be able to log the hours. Secondly, the hours I would get would be insignificant towards the big picture of what I need.
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So the big question, as I see it, is can you bridge that gap quickly and within your budgetary means, to make the whole gig worthwhile? If so, then it sounds like a hell of a good opportunity.
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This thread motivates my vasectomy. Its time.
This thread is why I got a vasectomy long before I turned 20.

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Old 12-28-2009, 08:21 PM   #34
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Well, I think that I might just go the CFI route instead. After conversing with a couple pilots on an aviation specific forum, they question the benefit of it during times like these. But, for all I know, they could just be trying to squash the competition. I was also informed about something called the Civilian Air Patrol which appears to be a pretty interesting way to build up some flight time.
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:42 PM   #35
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You have an interesting life. If you don't already keep a journal...you should start...may make a good story one day.

I would usually vote for the internship...but I don't think it will get you a job in this economy. And don't believe the media hype, we are not pulling out of this recession anytime soon.

Go the surefire route to build up the hours...since there's no way around that, regardless of how cool the internship might be. I agree that advancing your career is more important than coddling a kid that can barely kick right now. A prof that was my mentor for a few years told me to do what I need to do NOW...because kids REALLY need your time as they grow older. This is contrary to what you probably believe...but young kids adapt. I spent almost all of last year crashing in College Station (100miles from home) almost every weeknight in order to take a full load, and then working all weekend. My daughter still loves me dearly and still knew who I was when I was home.

Get ahead, be there for the kid when he/she needs real life advice as a teenager. Also be aware they'll more likely take said advice if your in a good position to give it.

The economy got me down for a while...and I even considered letting go of school. Short sighted and foolish. I am busting my *** now more than ever to graduate.


Last but not least...get a professional opinion. Try and find a recent success story for an internship. If they can't be found that should tell you enough. It's easy for the naysayers to talk it down, but it's amazing how achievable a goal appears when you talk to someone who has walked that path.
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Ah... Thought there would be more flying involved in the internship... Definitely do what will give you the most hours the fastest, that's the bottom line what you need right now (and I'm sure you've heard it a million times..) Sneak in as much multi/night/IFR/complex time as you possibly can.

Don't forget the other entry level jobs too:
banner towing
traffic watch (did this for a bit)
aerial photography
etc...
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What's BS degree do you have?

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I have an associates in Aviation science and am about one or one and a half semesters away from my bachelors in the same. I also, when I start flight instructing(if that's the route I go) want to get my Food and Bev MGMT degree.
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My interships got me where I am now. My friends that didn't do internships had a hard time finding a job. To each their own but I'd vote internship.
Ditto.

i didnt do an internship for my degree, did not get in the Field.
I did an internship for my certification, I got the job and am working on my masters in that field.
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