Joe Perez
 

Your avatar is awesome :bowdown:

+1.
Any reason for the change? Maybe something happening on m.net?

Heh. Thanks, Ben. Nothing special going on at m.net, I was just really bored the other night, and I'm trying to keep the duck motif fresh and original. :bigtu:

Now that I give it a good hard look, it's kinda a weird duck. But what do I know? My car doesn't even run.

I once knew a person who weighed the same as a duck.

I once weighed the same as a duck.

Yeah, OK.... but does that kind of duck have lips??

Maybe if two ducks carried your turbo between them, on a piece of string....

It could grip it by the wastegate rod.

New form of boost control.

DBC

Perhaps it's an African duck...

A Møøse once bit my sister...

what also floats in water???


rain
very small rocks
gravy
...

I highly recommend any Python fan read the Holy Grail script. They have all kind of little lines in there which are inaudible in the movie which are just absurdly funny...

Scene 6

[clop clop clop]
SIR BEDEVERE: And that, my liege, is how we know the earth to be banana-shaped.
ARTHUR: This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
BEDEVERE: Oh, certainly, sir.
SIR LAUNCELOT: Look, my liege!
[trumpets]
ARTHUR: Camelot!
SIR GALAHAD: Camelot!
LAUNCELOT: Camelot!

Moose bites are very dangerous...

Oh, nevermind, I thought you said 'Moose'.




Terrence ø'Brien - Wow. Best part.

Funny, at the time this was originally posted no. But now... :D

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haha!



btw, i dont understand your avatar

I wonder how the kid taunted the moose. A little fish-slapping?
"Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries!"

:rofl:

LOL. Getting even funnier. :rofl:

Looks like Tom can't live with the fact that the mods locked the thread but instead of following his deletion prediction they didn't remove the proper explanation about Dynojets output which corrects his theory on engine dynos. Now looks like he started calling Dynojet marketing and continued hijacking/reviving other old threads (which are not locked yet):

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...2&page=4&pp=25

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Instead of wasting time with some marketing monkey he could've read a lesson or two on why every car nowadays has a gearbox and what is that gearbox used for.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Does anyone know if Barnes and Noble carry FPRs for Dummies, Gearboxes for Dummies, etc.? :rofl:

Come join the fun. IBTL

It's a picture of a chicken, with a label claiming that it is a duck.

What's not to understand?

Ok, seriously. A while back, Moss Motors issued a press release touting a new timing controller that a few of us believed to be a piece of crap. We said so over on miata.net, which caused Jason (of Moss Motors) and Tom (of FFS) to jump in and start defending it (they are the only two who sell it.)

Jason quickly baked off, but Tom just kept raving and raving, talking utter nonsense. I tried to use the "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck" analogy to make a point, and he went totally off the deep end. By the time the thread died, he tried to convince us that chickens and geese are ducks. Several people got good taglines out of that thread, and I adopted a duck motif for my avatar.

If you wanna read, it's a looooong thread which begins here: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...highlight=duck Read it when you've got some time to kill and need a laugh.



Anyway, what made it relevant was an old post where an FFS customer was having massive fuel problems, Scott joked that the customer should just install another PowerCard (since that seems to be Tom's answer to everything, and that very quote is now Ben's signature) and then lo and behold, it turns out that Tom DID send the customer another powercard. You can see that thread here. http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=260159 (the fun begins around post 31)

AMAZING job on the new avatar!

:bowdown:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...3&postcount=41
that kills me every time.

wow Joe, i really really laughed out loud, like no kidding, i laughed my ass off
thanks for the laugh of the day/week/maybe month

turned out he's sending out defective 5th injectors.... don't see how this will help this OP's problem.

when I see these guys in obd-1 cars running shitty pc pro garbage it makes me sad for them. How could anyone with an obd-1 car not have MSpnp?

how could someone think atomizing gasoline (one of the liquids with the worst latent heat efficiency) would be a good intercooler.

He's used that excuse before. And no, that's not the solution.

not a surprise though coming from a guy who sells $5000 blower kits that make 200whp when then planets align.

You forgot about teh uber throttle response.

:rofl:

Someone has to start collecting those ... in a short time there will be enough for an entire book ... :)

Remember,this is coming from a guy that sold $150 yo-yo's that probably knew fuck all about cars to begin with.

Which judging by his posts at m.net hasn't changed much since ... :rofl:

There are 2 definitions of wheel torque.

Wheel Torque = torque measured at the crank, minus drivetrain losses

or

Wheel Torque = torque measured/calculated at the wheels

Tom is referring to the first, you are referring to the second. Stop acting like you've caught him out on some fundamental misunderstanding of dynamometers when all you've done is insult him repeatedly over a slight semantics issue. I hate the guy as much as anyone here, but make him look stupid over REAL things, not trumped-up shit.

Tom reminds me of your typical "con artist".

Pretends he knows everything about what he is trying to sell,yet knows nothing,but all he cares about is taking peoples money.

.....it's unfortunate that a few people were seriously taken by this con man.

That makes precious little sense. Wheel torque is torque at the wheels.

Everything else is how you measure it. Is there Fluke voltage and Digiman voltage?

If you calculate it, it's an approximation. It doesn't change what the definition of wheel torque is - it just changes if you're wrong about it or not.

Torque measured at the crank and torque "calculated" at the wheels are both guesses. Torque measured at the wheels is probably as good as you're going to get - though really you'd want to make sure your drum was made out of asphalt, and your tires were at normal running pressure, etc etc etc. :-)

I agree, though, that there's no point in abusing someone without a point (ever see mike moore and C. heston?)

The point is that actual wheel torque is actually extremely high, due to the fact that you're multiplying the RPM of the engine by the gear ratio and the rear end ratio to get the actual wheel torque. That's not what anyone refers to when they say wheel torque, though; when I say wheel torque, I mean what the engine is producing at the crank minus the drivetrain losses. My engine probably makes 230ft.lbs, assuming 15% driveline losses, which means 201tq, but the actual torque at the rear wheels is significantly higher than that, since I have to multiply it by 4.1 and then account for the tire diameter as well.

haha thanks! i remember that thread, and didnt follow it cause of all the nonsense.


lol @ more pc pros ftw!!!

Ok, enough with the Tom bashing. This thread is supposed to be about everyone telling me what a really cool and clever guy I am. Let's try to get back on topic.

:bigtu:

You are the "SECOND" coolest guy on this site :)

By the way it was a tie for first place ...

The winners where everyone else :)

Dude, in first place he was the one who started arguing by making the comments and didn't let go - it was in a thread I told someone else what torque a Dynojet shows.

Second, he could've said what you said above and while not technically correct (something called wheel torque which is not wheel torque) instead of doing his random chatter.

Instead he started posting random dyno stuff back which didn't prove or explain anything on the subject and really showed how much he knew ...
I can bet the only dyno experience he has is looking at someone else doing pulls on a Dynojet and he has never touched any other brand dyno machine ever ...

Did you see that reply of his with the quote from a Mustang employee explaining a chassis dyno can't measure crank torque ... Hellooo, who in the first place said chassis dyno can measure crank torque I had the word estimated everywhere... ?!

Third, initially I didn't plan on posting this but now here it is - I pointed to the Dynojet guys our discussion and asked them which of the two of us was right - me or Tom. Here is the answer which came from Dynojet Inc. - this is a direct copy & paste of the answer I got (even the caps is theirs):

"YOU are absolutely correct.
However, with our Inertia based with Eddy-Current equipped model 224xLC (Load Control) dyno, which we have been selling for 4 years now, you can view both ‘Cell Torque’ at the drum, or ‘Steady State’ Torque at the engine. These load control dyno runs will be labeled with a .dlf file extension, whereas most of our Dynojet Inertia dyno runs will read .drf. Dyno Run Files are for the standard, basic, Inertia dyno runs, and Dyno Load Files indicate that the eddy-current load control was utilized during that particular dyno run.
However, the largest majority of our installed chassis dynos, are Inertia only.


Keith Royle
Director of Dynamometer Sales
Dynojet Research Inc.
800-992-3525 "

So, here you have it straight from Dynojet - the inertial Dynojets out there show estimated crankshaft torque, not torque at the wheels and you won't see "wheel torque" written on all those inertial Dynojet printouts either.

Looks like for some newer eddy-current loading ones of theirs, the program can also can show the cell torque reading, similar to the loading ones of the competition, but that's not the torque numbers/graphs we discussed in the original threads.

That Dynojet director said it above - their machines estimates "torque at the engine" and confirmed my posts were the correct ones...

So, next time that quack-quack-yo-chicken-yo guy better read/learn more engineering stuff instead of arguing using random dyno related paragraphs he found with google ... :rofl:

I wish I could get my car on solid state dyno for less than $1000.

Ok, I wasn't thinking. I totally buy that. I guess you're *measuring* driveline losses, and normalizing for gear ratios. But, you're right, wheel torque is kinda a dumb, ambiguous term to use. It really is horsepower / rpm or something silly. Normalized wheel torque is I guess what I would call it.

Easy. Tell the guy you'll leave the car there. Maybe he'll even give you $50.

Your own damn fault. You need to be cool without a reason. Do it for a reason, you're shafted, the reason could suddenly become important.

I don't care enough to read all of that. The only person who still cares is you. I'll bet ten bucks our favorite yo-yo aficionado has moved on, too.

*SNERF*

Damn, I just spit on my monitor! Sav- nice avatar, there. :bigtu:

Thought you might like that. :bigtu:

Al least we are back on topic.

This thread is about Joe

Joe, have you ever told the story about why you got stabbed in London? (or why you spent untold time and money on earning, of all things, an astrophysics degree)

I had forgotten about it already too and you were the one who brought it back by resurrecting last year's post and started talking torque again, not me ... :p Earlier today I was just spamming generic :blah:
:D


Daym, you all have nice avatars now :rofl: Am I the last without one? ... :eek4dance

I have by far the most awesome avatar in the history of the interweb. Just ask me!

ok the joe love fest has gone on long enough. (no disrespect, joe)

Joe
Props on the sig :giggle:

Ben, wtf does yours say?

Background:

It's Greek for "come and take them".
Did you see 300?
"Spartans, lay down your weapons."
"Persians, come and take them!"

That move kind of recreates the battle at Thermopylae between the Persian slave army and the Greeks, where a few hundred Greeks held off countless thousands of Persians for several days. The pic in my avatar is an inscription that is found near where this battle took place.

Modern Day:
Term has been used by victims from city of New Orleans who had its agents confiscate firearms post Katrina under the guise of public safety. However, now that the city has come back, rebuilt, etc, the city is unwilling to return lawfully owned firemarms to legal citizens. The citizens are basically saying "you can have my guns over my dead body."

My Av is just plain interesting. And that's all there is to it. I kinda want one of these.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...an_Fun_Lab.jpg

^ a walking dehumidifier?

Hope I'm not late to the party. Anyway. Quote and response:

In the scene where King Arthur comes upon the peasants and calls the one an "old woman", you can read that the other who was digging up God knows what, had this line, "Dennis, have you seen the cat's front legs?" In reference to the cat that is beaten around throughout the movie. lol

What is your name?:Joe Perez

What is your quest?:I seek service at the Howard Johnson's

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen miata?:...What do you mean,a domestic or jdm miata?

...um...I don't know that AHHHHHHHH!!!