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Old 12-09-2010, 06:51 AM   #1
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I'm seriously considering going back into the military.
I make decent money now--maybe 60 to 70k per year. Not bad considering my location.

Despite all my rage I am still

I think I'd rather defend you guys than the shareholders.
And it eats at me every day non stop.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:36 AM   #2
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Have you ever heard the word propaganda?
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What for, other than pride in serving?

Sounds like you have a decent life going. 60-70k is alright and Hawaii is even better.

Now, I know a lot of people (myself included) use the military as a stepping stone, getting experience, skills, and education along the way before getting out. What motivates YOU to join (again)?
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How old are you and how long did you previously serve?

I joined the Navy back in August and ship out in February. I have a good paying job, it is stress free and I make my own hours. But my job feels pointless, I literally feel like everyday I am here is a waste. So I decided to join something that is much more then me and serves a purpose. I want to be part of something that matters. You also can't beat the benefits, especially if you have a family. But I'm sure you already know this. I also don't want to work the rest of my life. Another biggie is the added security of health insurance for life if I put in my time. As we all know, health insurance is going to be a very important thing for our generation.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:19 AM   #6
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If you are serious about joining, make sure you stick out the 20 years so that you get the benefits for life. My dad is retired Army and seeing the benefits he has because of it is awesome.
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If you have any questions feel free to pm me I can kinda point you in the right direction so you get the best deal possible alot has changed in the last 4 years with prior service enlistment. But I say go for it you wont regret it best decision of my life.
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How old are you and how long did you previously serve?

I joined the Navy back in August and ship out in February. I have a good paying job, it is stress free and I make my own hours. But my job feels pointless, I literally feel like everyday I am here is a waste. So I decided to join something that is much more then me and serves a purpose. I want to be part of something that matters. You also can't beat the benefits, especially if you have a family. But I'm sure you already know this. I also don't want to work the rest of my life. Another biggie is the added security of health insurance for life if I put in my time. As we all know, health insurance is going to be a very important thing for our generation.
Unless you're a commissioned officer, you'll still have to work after 20 years, the pension just isn't large enough (unless you retire to Costa Rica or somewhere ridicuously cheap).

What's the purpose? Keep your good paying job, your safety, and live a good life. Servicemen are the tools of politicians and never used to protect our safety or freedoms, regardless of what the propaganda may say. I enlisted at 18, got out at 22, and I'm just lucky that I got out with no more than an injured back. With that being said, I support our troops 100% because their sacrifices are legitimate.
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If you are serious about joining, make sure you stick out the 20 years so that you get the benefits for life. My dad is retired Army and seeing the benefits he has because of it is awesome.
The other alternative is pick a good MOS and go contractor
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The other alternative is pick a good MOS and go contractor
For benefits I mean health care and such. The best plan of action is to stay for 20 years and get the benefits, then move to DC and pimp yourself out for 6 figures until you hit 65. Then **** bitches.
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I am in the same exact boat, yet my situation is a little more extreme. I want to join again as well, prior Marine--I make around 100K+ contracting yet I am willing to make that sacrifice. Money isn't anything, I have felt the urge to go back and serve it is really hard to describe unless you share this feeling. Even a hump to Iraq contracting didn't fill the void.
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The other alternative is pick a good MOS and go contractor
That's my plan. Contract and keep an eye out for a GS.
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GS jobs aren't contracting jobs, theyre federal jobs. If you want a very good one, I suggest you get a college degree as well, if you dont already have one.
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I think he meant, get a contract job and guard a civilian. I know thats what jtothewhat is doing. Or I could be wrong...
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Yeah, I shouldn't read posts before I'm fully awake and my contacts are in. It appears that he's going to find a contactor position and work in that capacity until he finds a GS job. That's the context that I've always seen "keep a look out for" used in, lol
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GS jobs aren't contracting jobs, theyre federal jobs.
Re-read what I typed.

EDIT - just saw your next post. My sleepy reading comprehension is just as bad, lol. Neogen - not exactly, I'm not cut out to be anyone's bodyguard. The Army employs me for my nerdiness.
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GS spots are nice. don't pay as nice, but it's job stability. i might go that route when i get out since I can get an easy GS13 job where I work currently. The only thing holding me back is that I'm tired of Sierra Vista. I understand I can move after a while, but I much rather get a high paying job in my home town. The Army has done wonders for me, but it's time for me to move on.

Good luck with getting back in. One Theory is my brother, and he knows his **** about getting people in.
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Have you ever heard the word propaganda?
Yes. It's what motivated me to get out in the first place. The idea that I was not free; that I was a slave to the UCMJ and to the whims of those in power above me.

Since getting out, I still have to accept in corrupt elections, state and federal laws made in the best interest of big business, and general unscrupulousness. Even the scientific method is not free of political/financial corruption. Military or civilian--someone please point out to me--what's the difference?

There is simply no way that every single American military mission is launched with corrupt intentions. I can't believe that.

If the police chief decides that he or she wants to crack down on jaywalking, maybe as a newly recruited cop maybe I wouldn't agree with that. It would be a very immature point of view to want to get out of the police force because I don't agree with one stupid leader.

I don't know. Is it possible to be a libertarian and be in the military?

All that being said I have nearly 9 years of US Navy. Considering the Air Force, if they'll even take me. From what I've researched I have a narrow window still available.
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Gianic is Greek, take his cynicism with a grain of salt.
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Gianic is Greek, take his cynicism with a grain of salt.
I do approve of the Greek response to that flotilla issue.

Ok I'll stop now before I DQ myself from any chance of TS again.


But see? That's just the thing. Who do you want watching your back? Someone who will do whatever the government says because they are dumb assed-sheep? Or someone who knows the difference and in times of distress will stick to principles and will actually shed blood to defend the constitution. Who do you want to be holding that gun? And I'm not talking about a silenced shotgun either. lolz.
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