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Old 09-20-2011, 11:43 PM   #61
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buy a couple bottles of regular household ammonia and pour them into the holes, anything in there will be flushed out instantly.
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opened this thread out of curiosity, now I am sorry I did. It reminds me of how wasteful some people are. I guess some people just see it different than I do; life should be respected no matter the animal., and yes I eat meat. but I don't kill for the **** of it. By the way don't waste your time replying, to my post, I won't be back to this thread to read it.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:07 AM   #66
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Just got number 5.

For all you soft, religious types, I'll refrain from posting anymore pictures.

I can see some might not agree with my method of extermination, but to call me wasteful? How the **** am I being wasteful? Would it be better if I was to try and poison them? Then the snake eats the dead poisoned corpse, the hawk eats the snake, so on and so forth.

If there was an easier way to get rid of them I'd be all over it. I have the electronic **** you plug into the wall that's supposed to keep them away, the spray stuff, traps, etc. I really don't have the time to sit here and shoot at these things all day/week long. Nor do I enjoy trekking around in the woods hunting them down like a maniac.

Unfortunately, the people that built this place didnt pour any concrete under the place so its a dirt crawl space. The chipmunks feel right at home. They've taken over the heating and AC ducts and ruined the air handler. I had a company come out and give me an estimate to pass on to the landlord, which I still have to call today and give the news to. $9800 to fix everything.

You know......maybe I should let the chipmunks stay. This way my gf and I, along with our 2 dogs, can inconvenience ourselves throughout the winter and use space heaters to keep warm. Rather than use the actual heating system that's hooked up to the ******* oil tank. I mean, they were here first and they're just so cute and precious.
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The wasteful part is that you're not eating what you kill.

I didn't mention it because I've never tried to eat chipmunks...not even sure if they're worth cleaning. He does bring up the point that you are in their environment...which I think you also admitted earlier. Don't like nature? Don't live in nature.

There are a number of "nuisance" animals in Texas that you can shoot and it's acceptable to leave them where they lie or dispose of them...but most of them are either dangerous, or cause property/crop/livestock damage. Your "damages" are harder to quantify since it's just peace of mind, and there are a lot of people that would actually enjoy seeing (and hearing) varmint playing in their yard.


Personally, if you have convinced yourself they have to go (and there are good reasons to do so...mainly their predators which ARE there)...then my only issue is that you aren't wasteful in your killing. THIS is why I keep pushing you to sight in the rifle and become proficient with it. Those pellets are heavier and faster, and therefore carry much more force. Very seldom would I have to shoot a squirrel a second time. Shoot them mercifully by knocking them dead with the first shot.


Now the "wasteful" post did cause me to consider another important point while considering if they are "game" animals or not. If they are you REALLY need to check season, bag, and license requirements and restrictions. I could have 2,000 squirrels playing in my yard right now...but couldn't do a damn thing about it until Oct. 1st, could only kill 10 a day, would need my license, and couldn't use a pneumatic weapon...which also means I couldn't shoot them in my yard anyhow as there's not enough uninhabited acreage around me (10 acres) to be able to discharge a cartridge weapon.
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The wasteful part is that you're not eating what you kill.

I didn't mention it because I've never tried to eat chipmunks...not even sure if they're worth cleaning. He does bring up the point that you are in their environment...which I think you also admitted earlier. Don't like nature? Don't live in nature.

There are a number of "nuisance" animals in Texas that you can shoot and it's acceptable to leave them where they lie or dispose of them...but most of them are either dangerous, or cause property/crop/livestock damages. Your "damages" are harder to quantify since it's just piece of mind, and there are a lot of people that would actually enjoy seeing (and hearing) varmint playing in their yard.



Personally, if you have convinced yourself they have to go (and there are good reasons to do so...mainly their predators which ARE there)...then my only issue is that you aren't wasteful in your killing. THIS is why I keep pushing you to sight in the rifle and become proficient with it. Those pellets are heavier and faster, and therefore carry much more force. Very seldom would I have to shoot a squirrel a second time. Shoot them mercifully by knocking them dead with the first shot.
Yeah man, I'm not going to eat the chipmunks.

Its not so much the peace of mind per say. Yes the chirping bothers me and the dogs chase aimlessly from window to window trying to look at them, which doesn't exactly make for a great work environment. Its more so the fact that WE CANT USE THE HEAT BECAUSE OF THEM. At first I thought it was the mice in the ducts, but after further investigation it appears that the chipmunks are the ones living under the house.

So when winter is coming and I'm already wondering how the **** to go about having the unit cleaned and the ducts replaced, I'm going to make god damn sure these ******* don't stick around to **** up the new system.

I'm all for nature and have an appreciation for it. I'm not some *** **** kid running around shooting the neighborhood cats. This is where I live now and I'd like to live comfortably. If that means I have to shoot a few dozen chipmunks to do so, then so be it.

When you say sight in the rifle, what exactly are you saying? I already shot up a calibration chart and did what I thought was sighting in the rifle. My problem is that they are too far into the woods to get them. Maybe I'm just a bad shot with it. The pistol has proved worthy and as long as the C02 is regularly changed. The 2nd kill shot is always within seconds of the first hit. I don't let them linger and suffer.

I'd like to see someone else try and take out a few chipmunks. Not as easy as you'd think.
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I wasn't attacking you personally...just sharing the perspective of a lifelong hunter, as well as my take on how hingston might have felt. I grew up in a "don't shoot it unless you plan on eating it" family. But there are times you have to just plain exterminate things...like the pond rife with mocassins thirty feet behind our fence in a completed development. After a few of those show up in your yard you go find the source and leave some empty shells.

http://hunting.about.com/c/ht/00/07/...0962933352.htm
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I'm not sure how the gun laws are in your state but you can buy used cheap .22 rifles in pawn shops here. I got my marlin 60 for $60. It's semi auto and has a 18 round tube fed magazine. So you can get 18 shots off as fast as you can pull the trigger. It's pure bliss, and being that it's a rifle the shots aren't nearly as loud as a pistol.
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I have shot, killed, and eaten squirrel and it is a little gamey. I fried it in a pan and made gravy. Like most meat you wouldn't want to eat it if it wasn't killed cleanly with the first shot because the adrenaline taints the meat. You could probably slow cook it in a stew with potatoes and carrots and do pretty well.

Kentucky flintlocks were often referred to as squirrel guns because of their accuracy in hunting small game for food.
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I own a snake, getting bit isn't too bad. Unless they latch on, but if its a defensive strike they won't.

You do have timber rattlers, copperheads, and hognoses which are venomous. HogNose are rear fanged so if you get bit by one, the likelihood of you getting any venom in your blood is not likely. Their saliva is toxic to prey so you might need something like a tetanus shot.

Be careful as I know the rattlers in Texas are slowly evolving to not rattle prior to defensive strikes. Its probably not a concern in CT as the reason for this in Texas is the wild pigs eat (and like the taste of) rattlesnake and will swarm to the sound of the rattle.

edit: here's a good pdf for the snakes in your state
http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/wildli...snkwebview.pdf
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Vash in six months if he starts "using" what he kills:

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Those pellets are heavier and faster, and therefore carry much more force. Very seldom would I have to shoot a squirrel a second time. Shoot them mercifully by knocking them dead with the first shot.
Not saying your wrong, but why is it that when I shoot a book with my BB gun using BB's it goes most of the way through, but when I use pellets it maybe goes roughly 1/4 of the way in? Just because the pellets are lead (and thus expand/get mishap en) and the BB's are copper (thus stay round)? I think I'd prefer to get shot by the pellet then the BB.
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Not saying your wrong, but why is it that when I shoot a book with my BB gun using BB's it goes most of the way through, but when I use pellets it maybe goes roughly 1/4 of the way in? Just because the pellets are lead (and thus expand/get mishap en) and the BB's are copper (thus stay round)? I think I'd prefer to get shot by the pellet then the BB.
I'm simply talking about transfer of energy...simple physics.

Penetration is a whole different animal.

I was basing my observation off of experience from varmint hunting, and without looking up actual ballistics I can really argue with ya. I just know that with a .22 cal domed pellet out of a Benjamin Sheridan at 4 pumps I never had a problem tracking down animals and taking a second shot.

The penetration (or over-penetration) of the BB may actually be Vash's problem. The rounds may simply be passing through the skull without causing much in the way of hydrostatic shock. This shock more effectively incapacitates an animal.
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The penetration (or over-penetration) of the BB may actually be Vash's problem. The rounds may simply be passing through the skull without causing much in the way of hydrostatic shock. This shock more effectively incapacitates an animal.
this.

I actually own a Crosman Trapmaster 1100. That thing DEVASTATES small game but it's too expensive to shoot as the shells have been out of production for 40 years.
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I'm simply talking about transfer of energy...simple physics.

Penetration is a whole different animal.

I was basing my observation off of experience from varmint hunting, and without looking up actual ballistics I can really argue with ya. I just know that with a .22 cal domed pellet out of a Benjamin Sheridan at 4 pumps I never had a problem tracking down animals and taking a second shot.

The penetration (or over-penetration) of the BB may actually be Vash's problem. The rounds may simply be passing through the skull without causing much in the way of hydrostatic shock. This shock more effectively incapacitates an animal.
This is the exact purpose for hollow point ammunition. While potentially devastating a full metal jacket round that just passes through the body is completely wasted. While it has placed would could be a fatal hole in the target there has been absolutely no energy transferred. Add a larger surface area even a lighter projectile can do more actual damage than a big heavy bullet with less surface area.
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This is the exact purpose for hollow point ammunition. While potentially devastating a full metal jacket round that just passes through the body is completely wasted. While it has placed would could be a fatal hole in the target there has been absolutely no energy transferred. Add a larger surface area even a lighter projectile can do more actual damage than a big heavy bullet with less surface area.
This is what we have:

You can see there are hollow points for small game (chipmunks)
I was just kinda thinking how odd it is that the copper pellet had soo much more penetrating power. They hurt.
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Started off the morning with a kill shot. Pistol, again.

Also got a squirrel the other day. I think they're in cahoots together, dropping the nuts from the tree and gathering them up for the winter.

It looks as if they had some babies as well, because now there's another half a dozen (at least) running around about half the size of the ones I've been shooting at. Perfect, even harder to hit now. lol

We stayed here yesterday and just relaxed and didnt do **** and she finally heard what they're capable of. I've almost become used to it because I hear it on a daily basis, but she was going crazy. Still didnt want me to kill any while she was home though.
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Geeez - I nail ever dam chip-n-squirrel I can. I don't care what people say, they're still rodents to me.... just like prarie dogs. And if you have a soft heart for these fuzzzy varmits, I DARE you to watch this PETA-friendly video

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