my 90 w/SR20DET
 

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that's pretty sweet...def wouldn't expect an sr20 to be in that thing. what made you go with the sr?

i bought it off another guy in Modesto. The car was built by some shop in Florida...

That's great! It's not often you see subs in the back of a racecar! :eek:

Where do you see a sub? That looks like a fuel cell to me:rly:

Nice car dude, a lot of sr'ed miata have poped up lately

So what kind of power does it make... come on man, don't tease!!!

never dyno'ed it actually... maybe i will soon. ^_^

thats pretty cool.
yea alot of srd miata have poped up alot later.

nice



but I still dont see what the big deal is about the SR motor.

500whp on stock block? It is the perfect motor in our cars for road racing.. just curious if there is a large weight difference. I am definately looking to do this in the future.. either do it or buy one with the swap already

i love the sr20det but have been recently overplayed I think...with the whole drifting scene blowing up it seems like it's all people talk about... hasn't anyone heard or ka-t.org?

You kill 2 birds with one stone. Better engine connected to the all important better transmission.

Very cool car dude.

I literally lol'd.

ka-t.org? yah that was my home before I found this one.

SR is seriously played out, it's a good engine but so is the BP and the KA. Seems like a lot of work when the engine already in the car is decent.

I'm not knocking your car, I think it's cool. I just don't like all the SR bandwagoners.

the hardtop is ugly, you should just give it to me. and rusman the subs are behind the seat.

oh its that car... there was a lot of talk about it here locally when it was done... that all I have to say really since none of it was really good.

dude yeah KA24e with a t3/4 would pwn :rofl: i love my hardbody 94

how much time/money did it cost?

I like project remix better

wow this is frank lin? I swear I remember you from the honda-tech lists circa 1997.

Eh... the KA isn't that good a block IMHO. While I do think people need to look at other options than SR I would go with CA, its really more like the RB motors but it has 2 less cylinders, it revs higher and just has a better spirit about it.

central or south florida? just curious.

thats the great thing about the KA though, with the extra .4 (.6 with the ca18det) litres you've got the torque to not have to rev high for power, and theres no replacement for displacement :werd:

Not the best block my ass if you swap out the weak pistons and the rods 500 whp should be no problem. and with less boost than a SR or CA the 240 that runs 9's has a what in it oh thats right KA24 bitches :D

please show me that. I always here people talking like that but I never see it in hard cold facts. And big deal i a BP can make 400+ stock, just not for long. Same with all the high power "stock' Sr motors I have seen.

Bought, not built :cool:

lol subs in that beast, I removed my radio and I rarely race it, I meen that radio was just too much weight...

Radios and speakers are a waste. I mean shit I can't really hear mine w/ the top down over the exhaust/turbo/etc. Keep in mind I only have a headunit and 2 speakers. I'm not all F&Furious style with 18 speakers. :(

my miata had fast and furious (name of brand) speakers in it when i put in my pioneers, i laughed, then junked em

Mazda's big block 4
 

I'm still voting for the Mazda FE3 (FE-dohc). I know there's only a couple of Miatas with them, but they're proven in other chassis.

A good example is an Mx-3 in PR with the fe3 swap, t3/t4, log mani, external wg, mbc:

• 14psi on pump gas - 292whp
• Bone stock, 116 octane, 23psi - 393whp - 331ftlbs
• forged pistons - 425whp 359ftlbs
• and a GLC with FE3 swap and GT35r turbo - 512whp 414ftlbs

It comes stock 86x86mm (bore stroke), so it revs like a Miata. Swap in the F2T crank for 2.2L displacement with a $500 set of forged pistons and you're ready to run over 20psi reliably. Check out the SR rods next to the FE3's (courtesy of Danny G.) Danny's car is now in Canada making near 600whp on a stock crank. -rob

Yah its him... long since banned on H-T, but randomly creates new accounts to start more crap.

SR is not reliable at 500whp with a stock block. It's a great motor but its not all that and a bag of chips. Misinformation on the internet and drifter fanboys have given it a god-like status.

Pound for pound, KA's and SR's have about the same power potential. KA's are just torquier and don't rev as high in stock form.

My KA24DE with a t3/t4 never lost to an SR powered car. My old car makes an appearance in the KA-T.org video ;) Mine was daily driven HARD @ ~300whp and lasted for years until I upped the boost and broke a ringland due to bad tuning on my part.

I'm pretty sure this car was from Tampa, Florida. I remember when one was built here. I seem to recall the car being black... The SR wasn't "played out" at the time. It was "fresh." I saw it run once. It was insane. Fast? Yes... and barely controlable by whomever was in the cockpit.

do the KAs have the same oiling as the SRs, as in oil squirters in the block like our engines have

yes they do.

yeah its from here in Tampa

fast? I wouldn't say that, the car only laid down a little over 200rwhp. And the SR has been played out for 3 years lol

get a job you slacker then you can criticise the SR :p

haha yeah I need to change that, I have a job... but I still barely work HA! :bigtu:

Pretty sure this probably came from Z Fever in Tampa, they've put out most of the SR-Miatas. Nice tho!

the ka24e's don't have oil squirters, only the de's, http://home.att.net/~MabuhayCarlos/TurboBlock.html

for those who want the ultimate 240 here is the rest of the build
http://home.att.net/~MabuhayCarlos/TurboStory.html
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not to be rude magnamx-5, but just trying to show that i'm not completely brain dead:cjerk:

for those who want the ultimate 240 here is the rest of the build
http://home.att.net/~MabuhayCarlos/TurboStory.html
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very nice!!! that's a really nice build.:bigtu: :bowdown:
turbos are so not confusing after just sitting down and reading something like that.

seriously... a little fan powered by exhaust to force air into the intake and with added fuel and an okay tune...boom automatic fun!

Sorry to jump in but the Z-Fever car is owned by a friend of mine in Vermont and was at NHIS this past weekend.

Not to say it was not built by Z-Fever , but this is not the car that was featured HERE


I will also be building a SR Miata time attack shop car :D this summer


Wow , did not realize I never posted here . Let me introduce myself . My name is Scott and I am from NH . I recently picked up a 95R after my 01 SC S2000 got totaled .

oh god if you are going to do that to a miata dont do it to an r-package. Somany people want them. Find a "generic" car and use it

use the stock BP, or if you want to do a swap do a FE3 like m2cupcar said. much better choice than the SR.

FE3, mazda "big" block 4 cly.

It also shares some dimensions with a supra motor. I think supra pistons will fit perfectly

Well ill br damned i just checked my spare 240 motor ka24e and it has none my bad, for being to vague.

They made at least two that I know of. I'm just putting 2 and 2 together, having lived in Tampa I know there aren't many shops there that'll build something like that, so it was probably Z fever.

WTF Frank Sighting!!

Cool.
The fuel cell is in the trunk...yes...the subs (someone asked where) are on the deck lid.
I dunno...I put a MS Protege sub/amp rack in my trunk...it's an 8" sub and it is removed for track days. I need music as it's my DD here in Turkey.

what's the point of the fuel cell?

so you are from modesto or something? I live like a 20 minute drive south of there, hit me up when you come back cuz id like to check it out.

No big deal to me ,we have several Miata's . I already tossed the suspension and rear sway . R's are not that special , Torsion diff , suspension , manual steering all stuff you can do to any Miata .


SR20 is the best bang for the dollar . No need to build the motor or Trans . Just boost away . I dont see how anyone can say the SR20 is play'd if it is only in a few Miata's ???

My Shop specializes in S2000's and Nissan's . I could easily swap a F20c into it ( I have three on the shelf ) But I would still need to build it . I figured go with the SR plus I already offer all the supporting mods for it .Plus my Nissan customers will get a kick out of it ( I already get hell from them for driving a Miata :) )

if you think they are not special then you don't care about miata truly. The are special to those that race them because of what they came with, or lack of what they came with for Stock classes. You could make some money selling it and buying a base package.

You can make just as much power with a properly tuned BP (or you swap even more with a stock FE3).

Best bang for the buck is just to turbo a miata with its factory motor

He said the SR20DET is played out, not the SR20DET-in-a-Miata is played out.

But it is somewhat pointless in a Miata.

i smoked a SR20 at the track with my lil 1.6. :D

Personally, I'd like to see a KA24DE-T miata. Now that would be an upgrade.

ghettoracer can you take pics of the motor,tranny and diff mounts

Dont get me wrong I love my Miata, and I do race it (as I have love for all cars ). But Stock class is a bore to me as I have been racing for 19 years . Right now it is prepped for STS2 . I have not bothered tracking it yet as we were running a DE BMW before .

Your right I could build the BP or the FE3 . Why would I want the KA24 ?? yes it can make power but it weights alot more than the SR ( Iron block ) ? Hell I could just swap in the Ford 302 and do twins ( Oh wait I already have a car with that setup :D ) . But that is not the point . Hell if I wanted to go all out I would do the Hyabusa V8

Sorry I did not elaborate . We are building a time attack car and the SR is capable of 400whp in stock form with only a turbo upgrade . Only other thing I need to do is a diff swap . To get to that level the BP would need to be built and I still need to fabricate a new turbo system and trany swap .

The SR is more cost effective . $3000 complete in parts at my cost for everything needed to reach 400whp..... turnkey and not worry. That way I can spend money on the other important things like sticking it to the track and stopping it .

Like I said best bang for the buck not cheapest way out :)

To each their own .

The FE3 wouldn't need building. And you can bolt up the R trans from a 929 using a Bongo van bellhousing. Just need to either connect the ppf or build the trans and diff supports. Parts for all that wouldn't be over $1500 (FE3-$600, R Trans-$300, Bongo Bell $200, S/H-$500).

Alas, it probably wouldn't do much for business- would it? The FE3 wouldn't have the allure, and with SR you can give the Nissan fans what they've always wanted: a convertible sportscar. ;)

Rob,

What was the FE3 out of?

You think the R-tranny would be up to 400whp duty ?

If it is that stout I will swap it into our M as I think my business partner wants to turbo his . He is not looking for more that 250whp .


SR is in the same price range for what you have listed . The addition money in the $3k figure would be for a new Garrett turbo and materials to fab everything .

Yeah- turbo rx7s are running 500fhp to it... though those are torqueless rotoaries. I can think of several drag racing Miatas that used the R trans and diff. And one was 400+ rwhp. Of course since you're a shop, you could just build an adapter plate and skip the bellhousing- that's just a $50 aluminum plate. Then pick a tII trans... I got two a rotary shop gave me for free. So I'm sure they're cheaper than the 929 R trans.

I thought SR20s with trans were $2k+ s/h. :dunno: