New cat socialization problems. ¡¡¡Now with more success!!!
 

I had one beast named Polly, she is possibly the most inconsiderate bitch on Earth. She strong, she's fast, she's basically the "Kitten of Ultimate Darkness".

then, my GF had to move in her two females Jackie and Animal. Jackie is very sweet, doesn't want to fight at all, just wants someone to scratch her, even while Polly hisses. Animal is a little neurotic, but she's pretty laid back, doesn't really want to fight.

Well, Polly has them cornered in the bedroom, and won't let them leave. I basically cannot get them out from under the bed. When I do, Polly runs them back into the bedroom then patrols the door.

I'm trying to give equal time to each batch of cats, but I have to lock Polly in anther room so she doesn't fight them. Which cats should I let sleep in the bed if they can't get along? How should I introduce them after segregation?

Polly is being dominant. You have to assert yourself as alpha. You are number 1, all others are subserviant. If you let her, she will continue to hold the others under her control. You must break that pattern.

Try a squirtgun. Fill with plain old water, and squirt her everytime she chases, hisses, etc. Make her squirm under your steely-eyed gaze. You have to make them think you are the king. Avoid yelling or loud voices, as that just makes them panic. Face to face staring contests sometimes works. Hold her attention until she shows capitulation.

Basically, let the old Hustler out.

watch a few episodes of My Cat From Hell where they bring two cats together. it usually involves a baby gate with a towel to block the view and putting food bowls on each side and removing the towel and moving the food bowls as close as the cats are comfortable... then slowly decreasing the distance between.

Google "how to introduce new cats to a household".

Google "how to be a man"

squirt bottle works

i'm not sure punishing one or all cats will improve their socialization?

Put both cats in a small room with food and water. Oh yeah, and a litter box. :) Seal them in for a day.

It sounds like trolling, but this is what I've done in the past. It worked great. No casualties and kitties were happy to coexist after coming out.

I just flashed my taint to them and now they're all good.

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email this guy.


I'm not kidding.

I now have a "baby-gate" divider from room to room so they can hiss at each other through the gate. Last night at 3am someone broke the gate down and there was a damn mutiny. Is this anything like child-rearing? Why would you people want to do this with a human?

you just have to keep them at a distance. let them smell, but not see each other. put a blanket over the divider to block sight.

have them feed on either side of the gate so they become acustomed with being around each other (they can smell) and being associated with good things like food/treats/toys.

maybe in a week or two, THEN let them see each other when feeding, then maybe after that slowly introduce them.


You should also rub a sock over each and keep it next to the other's food/water dish so they smell the other cat and again associate it with good stuffs.

Get a dog.

sounds like a horrible solution.

Should I squirt them with the water bottle when aggressive or hissing? I can't seem to find consistency on the internets.

its just going to make them more miserable.

Not true, my cats and dogs get along together fine. The more dominant dog keeps the others in line, in a peaceful way. They even all sleep together on the same bed.

ONLY when being agressive. Growling or hissing is okay, if they're not up in each other's face. They're going to make noises at each other, it's part of the process. You do realize that this could go on for 8-10 days or more, right?


My wife informed me today that she had our cats "chipped" at the vet visit yesterday. $150 for the pair. I am rather annoyed.

Being a animal person i can honestly tell you to let them sort it out between themselves as to where the hierarchy stands. Its like in the locker room before gym class, and the class bitch get the regular ganking to keep things in order. Life will balance itself out, dont worry yourself.

being a cat person, I'll tell you that will never work.

Works fine where i work.

Okay here is an update, polly is still stalking the cats at all times when they're together. I have them separated, and it's getting old. Both parties are bored and lonely but the GF's cats are starting to trust me and are currently in bed with me.

Is it time to step up the interactions again? It seems that whenever I put them together it puts the girlfriend's cats hid until Polly runs them out of hiding, they go back under the bed for the next 6 hours, then polly waits so she can attack again, and we are back to square one.

Any ideas from the kitty brethren?

I emboldened what I think is the important part.

stock the fridge.

stalk the cute junior high girl.

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I use the auto-feeder thingy so they can eat whenever they want, is it time to start withholding food so they play nice together?

I have no clue. I was just going off what Braineack said. I would personally say put each cat in a pillow case, go rent a hotel room. Let them all out at once and lock the door. When whatever they end up doing stops move them back to your house. You will either have 3 happy cats, or 2 dead cats and polly.

You have done it wrong. I have socialized over 70 cats with each other. I am serious.

This is how you do it:

Put the two cats in one room with litter and food. Leave them in there for a week.

Put the other cat in an adjacent room with litter and food. Leave her in there for a week.

They can smell each other and just chill out.

Then, after a week, give them a little good catnip (pref fresh), and rub it all over their fur. Then introduce them to each other by opening the doors. Catnip wears off in about a half hour, so you have to be quick. Catnip makes cats friendlier.

Then. Whip out the laser pointer and make them play.

That should do it.

I would go and watch the full episode of "My Cat From Hell" I posted. Pretyt much goes over all the steps of introducing cats the fight together. It's cruel and mean to have them live in fear in thier own house.

Crazy Cat Guy!!!!

What????? Autofeeder?

NO NEVER.

Always just give them wet food. Also, while you are socializing them, make them wait to eat. Wait about an hour or so until after you know they are all hungry. And yes, feed them all next to each other.

----, these two sweet cats are too nice to let Polly beat them. At some point they have to "get over it", right?

no.

Okay, I forgot to watch this. I have a little scruff so I'll go ahead and shafe some stylish facial hair. Sorry to overlook that, I appreciate the help.
This sounds like a pretty good idea actually. However, Polly becomes violent on catnip, lol. I'm not joking. When she sniffs it she lays back her ears, twitches her tail, and attacks me when I take it away. We're talking "Polly scares me" when I give her the nipper.

I will cancel our appointment with Dr. Phil.

Jackson Galaxy.

posted large and charles in charge of your cat:

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That kitty in the last pic is gorgeous.

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Well, you certainly are a heavy breather!

I think that was pretty benign. My cats, who are brothers hiss at each other like that with no further drama at least once a week, probably a lot more. It's the equivalent of "leave me alone".

It's when you get the growl/whine with the hiss that they really mean business.

Wow who negged my haiku you suck

Whoa, this screen door thing works. I just put there water bowls together, one of my GF's cats decided to come out, and now my cat and her are coexisting. The other kitty is a tougher nut to crack.

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That's lame. Too many haters.

Polly is about to go to the animal shelter.

Noooooooooo she loves you

I may have scared her straight, lol. I was pushed past the limit, she gave me a look I've never seen before, lol.

This has now digressed into total chaos.

An advanced trick I can recommend is to simultaneously make all the cats miserable. This will distract them from each other.

My favorite method is to take each cat, and shave it. You do not have to shave the whole cat, just enough to unsettle it. A stripe along the back suffices. That said, a fully shaved cat would be best.

I recommend large hair clippers, with a long blade attachment.

By the way, I think you meant devolved, not digressed. Neg on that bitches.

Tape some canvas around Polly's front paws or any material that will stop the claws from extending. Put a cat mussle on her and let her interact. You just need to give the other cats some confidence. They will see the limited ability and start to push back and assert themselves. Equalize the bullying and the -- should stop. Otherwise I think Fae is onto something when he said shave a stripe into each cat. Anything that gets the brain to another place should help. The catnip strat is also good. You mentioned she likes to go after you when you withhold the good stuff. This places the aggression on you and might help the interaction because the other cats aren't withholding anything.

Okay, things are strange today.
I took this yesterday and I was very happy at the time to see Jackie not reacting or running away. It's pretty funny to see Polly get confused when she doesn't run away:

Today, Jackie and Animal are fighting, Polly doesn't care. Earlier, Jackie was dominating Polly. I'm really confused so I have them locking in separate rooms and I'm going to go relax somewhere.

Jackie not running away is a great sign. Polly doesn't understand because Jackie isn't a little bitch anymore.

When Jackie reacts it only makes polly wanna do it more, cause what to cats like to do? chase things.

I was serious about the shaving.

If you want next level stage 4 socialziing

Vape the catnip.

No both of my GF's cats are gang-fighting Polly. I cannot let them be around each other at all, it's total mayhem. ~7-weeks to go. I miss the old Polly, I hope isn't ruined.

ah. well, keep them seperate but equal. it's a slow painful process.

I plan on introducing a new kitty to the family soon and I just hope the kitten diverts all attention from my 3 year old away from the 11 year old who just wants to be left alone.

Right now Polly is living either on top of the dryer in the laundry room or behind a mirror in my bedroom. I am worried about this because Polly owned this house previously and she was pretty happy. She wouldn't get in the bed last night either, just hid behind the mirror. She did wake me up when my alarm went off this morning like usual, but went back behind the mirror.

Denial — Those other cats aren't here"I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to me."
Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of possessions and individuals that will be left behind after death integration . Denial can be conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, or the reality of the situation. Denial is a defense mechanism and some people can become locked in this stage.

Anger — i'm going to show them who's boss"Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"
Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. People can be angry with themselves, or with others, and especially those who are close to them. It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a person experiencing anger from grief.

Bargaining — please run away to confirm my superiority over you "I'll do anything for a few more years."; "I will give my life savings if..."
The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay death. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand I will die, but if I could just do something to buy more time..." People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of life or death.


Depression - Polly is here — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
During the fourth stage, the dyingintegrated personcat begins to understand the certainty of deathintegration. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and grieving, or hide on top of the clothes washer. This process allows the dying person displaced feline to disconnect from things of love and affection. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation.

Acceptance — I don't have a choice but to co-exist"It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person's situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief.

We are starting to coexist now. Polly is back to the dominant role but there is very little fighting. I might be home free.

Maybe, when my GF moves into the townhome she just bought in Houston and takes her kitties, I'll get another.

How long did the comotion last? 12 days? I told you it'd be at least 8-10 days. Pretty normal for most cats.

Before you know it, they'll be all buddy-buddy.