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The new hot swap?
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-...photo-5497850/
4.3 GM v6 - 305 ft-lbs Curious about weight given that it is likely an iron block. -Zach |
Lol...I thought about doing this swap years ago. I had 2 S-10's that both had 4.3 vortec v6's. They ran amazing. It's a great motor.
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there are eleventy billion motors that "can" fit and "can" work and "can" be great in a miata.
the trick is finding one cheap enough, compatible enough, light enough, and worthwhile enough to do. Also to get it to play nice with the rest of the drivetrain, or install the drivetrain it came with, or mix-n-match, or or or or....... See where I'm going with this? TL;DR: cool story bro, finding/buying the motor is only 1/10th of the progress |
Protip: dont type hot swap into google image search at work.
I thought this thread woul be a homo circlejerk with pictures based on the title.. Disapointed.. Dann |
It's never too late to get that going, this thread can be saved!
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
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Protip: dont type hot swap into google image search at work.
I thought this thread woul be a homo circlejerk with pictures based on the title.. Disapointed.. Dann |
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Originally Posted by soviet
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I like a 4-way hot swap
img ohh myyyy uhhggrr https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372297878 This just got cray. |
This thread was going places, and then this shit. Really? :facepalm:
Originally Posted by soviet
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
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Originally Posted by miata2fast
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This thread was going places, and then this shit.
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I get amusement how fast threads here can turn either gay or nerdy. It is hilarious.
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Originally Posted by soviet
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If anything, the new Ford V6 has 300 bhp and is all aluminum. A much better choice than the GH iron block.
Just saying. |
The 4.3's power delivery puts me to sleep. Yawn. Why you'd want that in a sports car is beyond me.
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
(Post 1025613)
Protip: dont type hot swap into google image search at work.
I thought this thread woul be a homo circlejerk with pictures based on the title.. Disapointed.. Dann Google'd it. No gay porn, just computer shit..... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372300900 |
Thats cos google disabled porn searches via images a couple months ago.
Dann |
Not if you turn off the content filter like a real man
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Friday night.
No date. No one to call. At home, alone. Step 1: insult people on miata enthusiast message board. Step 2: turn off google image search porn filter, type in hot swap. Step 3: ???? Step 4: become a real man. Dann |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1025590)
there are eleventy billion motors that "can" fit and "can" work and "can" be great in a miata.
the trick is finding one cheap enough, compatible enough, light enough, and worthwhile enough to do. Also to get it to play nice with the rest of the drivetrain, or install the drivetrain it came with, or mix-n-match, or or or or....... See where I'm going with this? TL;DR: cool story bro, finding/buying the motor is only 1/10th of the progress It's also aluminum, direct injection, and VVT. Since it's a base truck engine it should be a cheap junkyard buy in another 2 years. |
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Even with safe search off I still can't see tits, and for that reason im forced to use bing image search.
Also, the chevy V6 may work better for swaps then the ford b/c it looks to be a OHV design, whereas im guessing the ford is a overhead cam engine, and thus wider and taller then the gm 4.6. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372356908 |
Originally Posted by gearhead_318
(Post 1025950)
Even with safe search off I still can't see tits, and for that reason im forced to use bing image search.
Also, the chevy V6 may work better for swaps then the ford b/c it looks to be a OHV design, whereas im guessing the ford is a overhead cam engine, and thus wider and taller then the gm 4.6. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372356908 |
Originally Posted by thasac
(Post 1025814)
Well, it's an LS based block (supposedly) which means it should bolt to a V8 roadster subframe.
It's also aluminum, direct injection, and VVT. Since it's a base truck engine it should be a cheap junkyard buy in another 2 years. I've a feeling it will be more like 5-10 years though. |
Originally Posted by nitrodann
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Thats cos google disabled porn searches via images a couple months ago.
Dann Just did a search for "cum guzzling teens". Was satisfied. Google images still working fine. |
Mazda's KLZE
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Originally Posted by 2ndGearRubber
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Just did a search for "cum guzzling teens". Was satisfied. Google images still working fine.
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I thought this was going to be the new hot swap, but it doesnt sound like anybody is hopping on the ball yet
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372387060 |
looks like a miata engine.
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Not quite:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372392185 But it bolts up to RX7 trans with like a B2600 bellhousing or somethin' https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372392185 |
F series? L series?
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4G63
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Might as well just swap the AWD platform too and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
(Post 1026186)
Might as well just swap the AWD platform too and call it a day.
Naw... Id rather bolt a transmission on and hack up a subframe, lol Im really amazed nobody has tried it yet. If I ever get another Miata I think I would seriously consider it. Not sure what the oil pan situation is like though. |
And here I was thinking it was probably some honda faggatory.
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LOL @ guys comparing the new 4.3 V6 with the one in the old S-10's. Not even in the same realm guys. The new 4.3 would really be a sweet, sweet motor, and it's going to make an awesome base engine in the pickups that will put the DOHC mills from Ford and Ram to shame.
Not hangin' on GM's balls here but it's really impressive what they've done with that motor. |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1026192)
put the DOHC mills from Ford and Ram to shame.
The NA 3.7 V6 Ford/Mazda engine is putting out 305/280 NA and the 3.5L version is making 365/420 with turbloz. |
Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
(Post 1026194)
idk about that
The NA 3.7 V6 Ford/Mazda engine is putting out 305/280 NA and the 3.5L version is making 365/420 with turbloz. The 4.3 makes 285 HP and 305 lb ft. Check the power @ rpm and torque vs. HP numbers and tell me which one is the best truck engine. |
Arguing best truck engine for Miata swap.
Great thread! |
Forget the V6's, the 2.0L ecoboost 4 cyl is more compact, idk what type of engine management you'd use for a direct injection engine.
From wikipedia: A 2.0 L version was first seen in the 2008 Ford Explorer America Concept.[4] The engine was rated at 275 hp (205 kW; 279 PS) and 280 lb·ft (380 N·m). It is the first EcoBoost engine to include Twin-Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), with advertised 10–20% better fuel economy while maintaining the performance of 3.0-liter V6 engines.[20][21] Specifications[edit] Type-Turbocharged, direct petrol injected inline four cylinder engine with Twin independent Variable Camshaft Timing Displacement-1,999 cc (2 L; 122 cu in)More Details Type Turbocharged, direct petrol injected inline four cylinder engine with Twin independent Variable Camshaft Timing Displacement 1,999 cc (2 L; 122 cu in) Bore 87.5 mm (3.4 in) Stroke 83.1 mm (3.3 in) Compression ratio: 10.0:1 Valve gear: DOHC with 4 valves per cylinder, twin independent variable cam timing Cylinder head: DOHC Gravity die cast aluminium alloy with sintered valve guides and seats Cylinder block: High pressure die casting aluminium alloy with bed plate Camshaft drive: Single chain Crankshaft: Cast iron with 47mm-diameter crankpins, eight counterweights, five 52mm-diameter main bearings and damped front pulley Engine management: Bosch MED17 with CAN-Bus and individual knock control Fuel injection: High pressure fuel direct injection with 7-hole injectors Turbocharger: Borg Warner K03 low inertia integrated turbo system |
Originally Posted by z31maniac
(Post 1026238)
Arguing best truck engine for Miata swap.
Great thread! 1) remove truck engine. 2) modify subframe. 3) install truck engine. But seriously, you guys are thinking too big. I'd go with the 3-cyl 1L ecoboost. With a larger turbo from the 1.6 version, it made 200hp in the formula ford they put it in. They are coming to the US in 2014 supposedly. |
If I'm doing all that work it better make more than 200hp
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IDK maybe I'm just all geeked-up on that engine because of the power vs displacement and the fact that it's 3 cylinders.
Wikipedia says the block is the size of an A4 sheet of paper, so you could fit 2 in the engine bay for 400hp right? |
No I get the appeal, its pretty cool. I'm just saying for all the work all these swaps require, you better end up with something seriously epic otherwise everyone will laugh at you as they achieve the same with a BP for a quarter of the pricetag.
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I seriously want to adapt a D16 to a miata trans and flip the differential. From what ive heard people have successfully spun a lot of transmissions backwards without trouble.
D16 would be mad lightness and could be built to make 300hp like cake. Hell with how cheap the turbo manifold and and internals would be, it would make up for a lot of the cost of the adapter plate and such. Of course there is still the oil pan issue, but with the motor being so short it may not be an issue. |
Ok, give me the SCC-style breakdown of what makes the new 4.3 so awesome.
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Originally Posted by kotomile
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Ok, give me the SCC-style breakdown of what makes the new 4.3 so awesome.
All-aluminum, compact direct-injected V6 with VVT and tons of torque. It's a mini LS with almost the same power figures as an early 2000's 5.3 v8 LS. Good. As for Mr. 1L EcoBoost... Seriously? Why are you going to take the 1.8L out that makes 138 hp stock and put in an engine that makes 120 hp stock? Doesn't make sense to me. Yes it'll be lighter but it's too tiny. |
My main gripe is the fact that its brand new, and not cheap by any means.
Unless most of us are here in the next 5-10 years. lol also good luck controlling DI |
Originally Posted by 18psi
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My main gripe is the fact that its brand new, and not cheap by any means.
Unless most of us are here in the next 5-10 years. lol also good luck controlling DI :party: Hey here's a hot swap idea: ls1. |
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