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Boostdprotegelx 01-22-2007 03:08 PM

new member
 
Hey everyone. New member here, just saying hello. I don't own a miata as of yet. but, that's why i'm here.I'm an active member in the mazdas247.com forum. I'm looking for options ideas/pricing on some things..

I have a 2003 protege, fully built w/ turbo...I'm looking to get a miata as the next project..the protege is coming to an end shortly. Anyways, The idea of forced induction intrigues me so i'd like to stay w/ that. HOWEVER, i'd like to go supercharger in this miata..so first things first. ideas/options w/ performance / styling for miatas. i like hard top, and WILL be getting a CF hardtop in time..regardless. i need to find where, and other issues. so, any help is great. thanks a ton

-Damian.

Braineack 01-22-2007 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74040)
i'd like to go supercharger in this miata..so first things first.

:td: :gay:

magnamx-5 01-22-2007 03:41 PM

Uh dude carbon fiber hardtop doesnt exist. unless it is custom made and high dollar.
SC'ers arent what we are about but we know FI.

Boostdprotegelx 01-22-2007 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 74048)
:td: :gay:

mature.

Boostdprotegelx 01-22-2007 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 74051)
Uh dude carbon fiber hardtop doesnt exist. unless it is custom made and high dollar.
SC'ers arent what we are about but we know FI.

ok well i saw a supercharged miata on here for sale. so i figured SOMEONE would know.but thanks anyways.

aside from you guys, IF ANYONE IN THE KNOW, can give me insight and information, it would be appreciated. thanks.

Braineack 01-22-2007 04:11 PM

Carbon Fiber HTs are available....Talk to the guys from planetmiata.com

We know enough about SCers here to help you out...like don't buy a m45, and check out BEGi and FFS systems.

And no I'm not very mature. SCed miatas just aren't my cup of tea...that's all. It could have been worse...I could have said "SCers are for douchebags" or something along those lines.

Sidenote: You don't happen to have a stock MSP turbo laying around do you?

Philip 01-22-2007 05:29 PM

Dude, does the forum description say this is the place to come introduce yourself? No, it doesn't.

Rage_Kage 01-22-2007 09:10 PM

http://axispowerracing.com/miatapartsdetail.asp?id=39

Atlanta93LE 01-22-2007 09:11 PM

I could buy 2 of my miatas for that.

Fritch 01-22-2007 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 74061)
We know enough about SCers here to help you out...like "SCers are for douchebags"


+1

:bigtu:

samnavy 01-22-2007 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by braineack (Post 74061)
Sidenote: You don't happen to have a stock MSP turbo laying around do you?

I hope you're just checking for a buddy... who drove all the way to Fredericksburg in a snowstorm (in a kick-ass AWD turbo OTM) with a set of 1/2 and 3/8 drive extensions in the trunk!

Pitlab77 01-22-2007 10:17 PM

:inout:

Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74086)
Dude, does the forum description say this is the place to come introduce yourself? No, it doesn't.


Braineack 01-22-2007 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 74178)
I hope you're just checking for a buddy... who drove all the way to Fredericksburg in a snowstorm (in a kick-ass AWD turbo OTM) with a set of 1/2 and 3/8 drive extensions in the trunk!


i was acutally ;)

Arkmage 01-22-2007 11:09 PM

First off... welcome. Most folks here have turbos as you may have guessed by the site name. There are a very few with S/C but I don't see them around a whole lot (one has been chill'n in the Megasquirt forum).


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74040)
HOWEVER, i'd like to go supercharger in this miata..so first things first. ideas/options w/ performance / styling for miatas. i like hard top, and WILL be getting a CF hardtop in time..regardless. i need to find where, and other issues. so, any help is great. thanks a ton

-Damian.

CF hardtop is a waste of cash in all honesty. They are roughly 3X more expensive than the stock fiberglass tops and wiegh roughly 15 lbs less... it would be more beficial to spend that cash on something else and loose the weight somewhere else. If you want to S/C that's golden, it's just not my thing since it's far less efficient than a turbo. I will however help you in any way I can.

miatamania 01-22-2007 11:10 PM

http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages...ercharger.html

the MOAB...if your going to SC...this is what you need.

hustler 01-22-2007 11:39 PM

Does anyone know where I can find a link to the search?

akaryrye 01-23-2007 12:16 AM

lol phillip, you are ruthless.

Comon be at least nice to the guy ... i mean a CF hardtop as a must have is a bit off the wall ... i mean theres lots of other things I would buy first, but anyway ...

If you hang around here for a little bit you will find that we are sort of a minimalist commmunity which encourages custom work and getting the best bang for your buck ... oh ya not to mention doing your own work. Most people will look down on you for spending a lot on bling and stuff.

If you are into the fast n furious stuff, clubroadster.net might be more welcoming of stuff like carbon fiber, body kits, lights under your car and other such useless crap.

miatamania 01-23-2007 12:19 AM

^ but that have a cool website name, thats gotta count for something

that7guy 01-23-2007 04:19 AM

I support clubroadster but not F&F crap. ITs a misconseption that the site is all about ricers. Just a place for people who like asthetic modifications to go without being flamed like at *****.net

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 74266)
^ but that have a cool website name, thats gotta count for something

First off, thanks to all for the help. Let me explain myself. The route w/ the miata may not normally be taken w/ a S/C, i want to do this b/c i already have the turbo setup. Also, if you'll take notice to this thread http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123649456

You'll see where my car has been and back. IT's not done yet. But, then again, what car is? It doesn't have far off before I've completed what i was going for. But all work, Aside from the actual motor build itself, was done by myself and some buddies. I did the motor swap and so on. Long, tedious road.

My first thoughts on the miata came after doing MINOR research...I see the weight distribution as a total gain over what i currently run. power to weight etc. can't beat it. It has nice stylilng as well. before i do anything performance-oriented, i'll be upgrading the full suspension,and adding a nice set of lightweight/wide wheels. I'd really only like to add a lip or something of that nature, I've seen those to be the best looking kits available. I don't like body kits,(as referenced in the thread i posted, i had my run-ins with these), no i don't have neons. I don't like them, and no I'm not some fly by night F&F kid. As i do enjoy the movies, i take them for what they are, MOVIES.

I came here looking for answers to my questions, and good tips for my search. I've not yet even finished my protege or purchased another miata, But that's not TOO far off.. I'd say, by....spring time. My car should be painted, tuned, and running great. It's steps fellas. one step at a time. But i came here to get acquainted with the car, the people who are in the know, and the answers. Thank you for your time.

mxv 01-23-2007 08:43 AM

sure are making alot of plans for somthing you dont own yet. you can just plan out all these parts for your car before you even drive one. before i bought one i was like yeaa i want that lip and the rear one and the hard top and these cool wheels too. but then i relized i really just wanted a miata. drive one first and pick out what you dont like, dont just start throwing money at it... and plus youll never get it back.

this is a turbo forum and alot of our information cant really be shared from tc to sc. all that we could help with is engine buildin advice and some fuel managment. alot of our research goes towards turbo size and setup fabrication. but i am sure you can pick up alot of the fi fuel managment from here. do research before you buy it.. but dont go making a parts list and pointing out things you want before you know what you really need.

Arkmage 01-23-2007 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by mxv (Post 74303)
sure are making alot of plans for somthing you dont own yet. you can just plan out all these parts for your car before you even drive one. before i bought one i was like yeaa i want that lip and the rear one and the hard top and these cool wheels too. but then i relized i really just wanted a miata. drive one first and pick out what you dont like, dont just start throwing money at it... and plus youll never get it back.

Back off the guy... nearly 10% of the forum members here have been talking about boost for years and still don't have it (me for example). He can talk all he wants, that how new ideas are spawned.

mxv 01-23-2007 09:12 AM

your right, he can talk, i am simply giving advise. i did the same thing and it got me no where. am i not allowed to give advice. its going to get him no where and hes going to use alot of money doing that. but i guess my 2 cents offended someone.

o well listen to what i said, dont mean to be a bitch but its ture in almost everycase.

miatamania 01-23-2007 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74299)
First off, thanks to all for the help. Let me explain myself. The route w/ the miata may not normally be taken w/ a S/C, i want to do this b/c i already have the turbo setup. Also, if you'll take notice to this thread http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123649456

You'll see where my car has been and back. IT's not done yet. But, then again, what car is? It doesn't have far off before I've completed what i was going for. But all work, Aside from the actual motor build itself, was done by myself and some buddies. I did the motor swap and so on. Long, tedious road.

My first thoughts on the miata came after doing MINOR research...I see the weight distribution as a total gain over what i currently run. power to weight etc. can't beat it. It has nice stylilng as well. before i do anything performance-oriented, i'll be upgrading the full suspension,and adding a nice set of lightweight/wide wheels. I'd really only like to add a lip or something of that nature, I've seen those to be the best looking kits available. I don't like body kits,(as referenced in the thread i posted, i had my run-ins with these), no i don't have neons. I don't like them, and no I'm not some fly by night F&F kid. As i do enjoy the movies, i take them for what they are, MOVIES.

I came here looking for answers to my questions, and good tips for my search. I've not yet even finished my protege or purchased another miata, But that's not TOO far off.. I'd say, by....spring time. My car should be painted, tuned, and running great. It's steps fellas. one step at a time. But i came here to get acquainted with the car, the people who are in the know, and the answers. Thank you for your time.


Heh, we can get a bit moody around here...when you get something your interest post up like a "My plan thread" and lay it out, we'll give you hell or praise and you can go from there.

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by mxv (Post 74303)
sure are making alot of plans for somthing you dont own yet. you can just plan out all these parts for your car before you even drive one. before i bought one i was like yeaa i want that lip and the rear one and the hard top and these cool wheels too. but then i relized i really just wanted a miata. drive one first and pick out what you dont like, dont just start throwing money at it... and plus youll never get it back.

this is a turbo forum and alot of our information cant really be shared from tc to sc. all that we could help with is engine buildin advice and some fuel managment. alot of our research goes towards turbo size and setup fabrication. but i am sure you can pick up alot of the fi fuel managment from here. do research before you buy it.. but dont go making a parts list and pointing out things you want before you know what you really need.

actually i've driven one. which, is partially why i've made this decision.

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 74314)
Heh, we can get a bit moody around here...when you get something your interest post up like a "My plan thread" and lay it out, we'll give you hell or praise and you can go from there.

i'll take all advice as constructive criticism. and so on. it's all helpful. except when people say BAHHH YOUR"E DUMB. GET OUT...BLAH BLAH BLAH..you know what i mean.. this is exactly how my protege forum started. i said i wanted a lot of power blah blah. i got flamed, now, people accept that i say what i'm gonna do.

Trent 01-23-2007 09:57 AM

Good god, everyone here needs to get the sand out of their vaginas.

The very least you can do is nicely welcome the new guy. You can break his dreams slowly over the next few months. No need to do it all at once in his intro thread. lol.

Welcome Boostd. There's a lot of good info here if you look around. I hope you find a nice miata to work with.

-Trent

TurboMiatKid 01-23-2007 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74056)
mature.

That sucks braineack is a huge help on this forum.:nono:

steelrat 01-23-2007 10:42 AM

I hate to say it, but SCs are definately a minority around here, but there's still lots of information about boost in general....

If you want to get an SC.... go for a car with a 1.8 in it, whether that's a 94-97, or the newer body styles..... You'll have a lot more choice for a kit.....

There's currently the M45 from JR (aka Moss is the only one selling at this point I believe).... The BRP kits, and the Fastforwards..... which are both based on the bigger MP62 kits..... They both have their own forums, and do have a wealth of information.....

Dave,

Philip 01-23-2007 10:50 AM

:blah:

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 10:55 AM

ok awesome. thanks for the help guys.

Arkmage 01-23-2007 11:54 AM

If you want to DIY with S/C (as much as I hate saying this) a centrifugal would be the way to go. The roots blowers are far more complex for a diy setup.

Philip 01-23-2007 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 74352)
If you want to DIY with S/C (as much as I hate saying this) a centrifugal would be the way to go. The roots blowers are far more complex for a diy setup.

YES
belt alignment issues and mounting a heavy head unit sounds like fun.

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74381)
YES
belt alignment issues and mounting a heavy head unit sounds like fun.

who makes the centrifugal?or not the, but A centrifugal? thanks.no i don't wanna piece one together. but i will probably install it myself. yes.

Pitlab77 01-23-2007 01:18 PM

stageonetunning I think has a centrifugal but for the NC. VFenginnering i think make the CF/sc. but i would stay away from them on small engines

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Pitlab77 (Post 74388)
stageonetunning I think has a centrifugal but for the NC. VFenginnering i think make the CF/sc. but i would stay away from them on small engines

why do you say stay away from? also, i like the body style of the 99 model.. is that a good motor/are they all the same motor?maybe a dumb question. but wtf i'm just asking.

miatamania 01-23-2007 01:29 PM

parasitic loss...your basically trying to spin a belt driven turbo...and you get really bad #s...those kinda chargers should be left on v8s...

Braineack 01-23-2007 01:33 PM

perfect example: 1999 with VF SC....then upgraded to a turbo:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/attachment...chmentid=32973

Philip 01-23-2007 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74387)
who makes the centrifugal?or not the, but A centrifugal? thanks.no i don't wanna piece one together. but i will probably install it myself. yes.

really just shut the fuck up. go back to .net and post over there.

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74401)
really just shut the fuck up. go back to .net and post over there.

what the fuck??what is your deal? for an admin, you have some serious issues with people learning.

Philip 01-23-2007 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74403)
what the fuck??what is your deal? for an admin, you have some serious issues with people learning.

I'm not a mod buddy.

and yes, I have issues with people with a shitty attitude that can't post shit in the right forum.

spike 01-23-2007 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74401)
really just shut the fuck up. go back to .net and post over there.

Hey Philip how do you know he's fromm.net?

Philip 01-23-2007 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by spike (Post 74406)
Hey Philip how do you know he's fromm.net?

if he isn't he should be.

spike 01-23-2007 01:50 PM

:rofl:

Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74407)
if he isn't he should be.


Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74407)
if he isn't he should be.

i'm not from .NET thanks. this is the first miata forum i've asked for help. Sorry that it bothers you. how is it that i have a shitty attitude? you're the one that started the bullshit. not me. remember that. i'm just asking questions. learning. which, believe it or not, you did at one point in time. you didn't just KNOW it all.

if you don't like what i'm asking, don't view the thread. the people that actually are helping shoudl view it. if you don't like it, don't post. it's not a complicated situation.

spike 01-23-2007 02:02 PM

You need some help?here you go www.miata.net.
Many people on that forum have superchargers compared to the people here,they will gladly argue....oops help you out with any questions about supercharging a miata.

Trent 01-23-2007 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74401)
really just shut the fuck up. go back to .net and post over there.

What the hell man? Way to look after the new people. Hell, we were all new once. Philip, you run this site like you wish we would all shut up and leave you alone.

Don't you think it would be better to encourage the new people in the right direction instead of dismissing them out of hand?

Just my 2 cents.

Atlanta93LE 01-23-2007 02:16 PM

If you're looking for a supercharger that is really is a belt-driven turbocharger, look here:

www.jacksonracing.com

Supposedly there is a kit for the Miata at this "new" Jackson Racing.

Boostdprotegelx 01-23-2007 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by supersaiyan93 (Post 74423)
What the hell man? Way to look after the new people. Hell, we were all new once. Philip, you run this site like you wish we would all shut up and leave you alone.

Don't you think it would be better to encourage the new people in the right direction instead of dismissing them out of hand?

Just my 2 cents.

i agree with you and thanks.

i can't believe some of you guys though... even though your'e an admin, you make people not want to even think about posting. good job.

jayc72 01-23-2007 02:25 PM

I won't comment on Philip's approach, I won't tell my host how to act in his own house when I'm a guest.

But he's got a bit of a point. Did you do ANY reading before firing off your first post? I don't think this is a fundamentally anti-supercharge place to come, but you have to think given the name that information about supercharging your miata would be a little light at miataTURBO.net.

You do know that doing research isn't just asking questions on the first forum you come accross right?

spike 01-23-2007 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Boostdprotegelx (Post 74433)

i can't believe some of you guys though... even though your'e an admin, you make people not want to even think about posting. good job.

It's Philip's way of weeding out the weenies from coming to his site.:gtfo:

steelrat 01-23-2007 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74405)
I'm not a mod buddy.

and yes, I have issues with people with a shitty attitude that can't post shit in the right forum.

Dude.... Is it time for the meds again?

Instead of just posting and bitching, why not tell him where he should be putting an intro? There's no newbie forum.... I don't see where it goes other than here? I do believe you actually told somebody to put an "intro" thread here a few weeks ago.....

Just because he's seaking information about something that you don't approve of, doesn't make it wrong.... Other-side of what again?

Chill-out.... Relax....

I'm with supersaiyan93....

Dave,

Trent 01-23-2007 02:40 PM

Well, I'm not trying to make this a Philip vs. anybody thread. What I said above is just a suggestion. Hell, it's his forum, he can do what he wants with it. I'm just trying to point out that we would all benefit from a little more courtesy, even when every fiber of our body wants to let the newbie have it!

y8s 01-23-2007 03:15 PM

heh, he's a m.netter now.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=216397

food for thought: if you walk over to the chevy dealership and ask which is the best full size ford pickup to buy, they'd probably punch you in the nuts too!

hustler 01-23-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 74401)
really just shut the fuck up. go back to .net and post over there.

philip has spoken.

hustler 01-23-2007 03:36 PM

if the idiot can't use the search, then fuck him. I'm by no means embody the think-tank of this forum, but that dude was a taint, and why waste bandwidth on ricer crap?

If that dude can't take the heat, then gtfo of the kitchen before Sirhan Sirhan caps your ass.

Braineack 01-23-2007 03:40 PM

I dont see why he didn't find the humor in my first post. I even used the gay smiley :gay:

Fritch 01-23-2007 03:48 PM

protege with lambo doors??????

tsk tsk tsk

hustler 01-23-2007 03:51 PM

oops, I'm not making points over there either. :gay:

airbrush1 01-23-2007 03:55 PM

trial by fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

prove the guys wrong and they'll stop F'ing with you!

If you want a ride in a turbo Miata...... I'm in MD (harford county) it might change your mind about the SC route......


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