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Old 12-28-2007, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default Not that alot of you would ever deal with this place...but I want to tell the story.

Here is our dealings with Beck Racing Engines in Phoenix Arizona. While this may not pertain directly to you Miata guys....remember to do your homework before making a big purchase or commiting to a large project.

April 2007: We put down $25,000 towards a $53,000 polished and blown aluminum big block and transmission package. Delivery is promised in 8 weeks.

August 2007: Demands another $10,000 or he will stop the build on the engine.(Already 2 months late) We reluctlantly sent the $10,000 with demands for a date of completion.(Which we never recieved)

October 2007: Flew down to Phoenix to witness the shakedown runs of the engine on the engine dyno. When we arrived, the engine was on the dyno minus plumbing, electrical and 10-71 blower. We were informed by Frank that the Blower Shop had delivered an unfinished blower. He stated that the "rotors would not spin freely". We were led to believe by Frank that another blower was being rushed in for the weekend. After waiting for 3 days, nothing ever showed up. We contacted the Blower Shop only to find out that Frank had never actually ordered up a supercharger for us at all. After finding this out and arriving home, we contacted Frank to let him know we would be meeting him while at SEMA to discuss our frustration.

SEMA: While walking the show, we find our serial numbered, documented and dyno presented engine sitting in the booth of Gear Drive Vendors INC.(They are good people and were not aware that the engine Frank lent them was a customers) We then tracked Frank down on his cell phone and then confronted him at the MSD booth. After catching him in multiple lies, we had uncovered the fact that the engine presented to us via email, photos, documentation and serial numbers was not our engine, and that we had been stolen from and defrauded after 7 months the sum of $35,000.

December 2007: We have aggressively persued Frank Beck since SEMA only to be met with belligerent, threatening, victom-role behavior. We have further uncovered over 2 dozen arrests and convictions to include a felony theft in May 2007. We currently are building a SEMA going 69 Camaro. The client is very upset and progress has been very slow because of this issue. At this time, we are working with detectives in the Phoenix police department and the state attorney generals office to have Frank brought up on theft, fraud and felony charges.. To date, we are out our $35,000. We have purchased our transmission elsewhere and have now started the engine building process all over with a more reputable builder who we have done our homework on.

Please, do your homework and a background check as we have also uncovered over a dozen judgements pending against him, all for the sums of $30,000-$50,000. Don't end up in the same situation that we did.
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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OMG, that more than sux...hope you guys get it straightened out
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Oh wow. That sucks! I hope that in some way you get your money back.
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ouch. that's a mighty expensive way to learn that particular lesson. I hope you are able to recover your money, but with that many claims against him, there may not be much blood to squeeze from that turnip.
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sounds like your typical coke head. I bet he drives a 70k+ vehicle that you guys made a down payment on for him.
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how did you stop his head from hitting a lead pipe while at sema?
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This type of stuff used to surprise me, not any more.

Hope he gets what he deserves and you get your funds back.

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Here is our dealings with Beck Racing Engines in Phoenix Arizona. While this may not pertain directly to you Miata guys....remember to do your homework before making a big purchase or commiting to a large project.

April 2007: We put down $25,000 towards a $53,000 polished and blown aluminum big block and transmission package. Delivery is promised in 8 weeks.

August 2007: Demands another $10,000 or he will stop the build on the engine.(Already 2 months late) We reluctlantly sent the $10,000 with demands for a date of completion.(Which we never recieved)

October 2007: Flew down to Phoenix to witness the shakedown runs of the engine on the engine dyno. When we arrived, the engine was on the dyno minus plumbing, electrical and 10-71 blower. We were informed by Frank that the Blower Shop had delivered an unfinished blower. He stated that the "rotors would not spin freely". We were led to believe by Frank that another blower was being rushed in for the weekend. After waiting for 3 days, nothing ever showed up. We contacted the Blower Shop only to find out that Frank had never actually ordered up a supercharger for us at all. After finding this out and arriving home, we contacted Frank to let him know we would be meeting him while at SEMA to discuss our frustration.

SEMA: While walking the show, we find our serial numbered, documented and dyno presented engine sitting in the booth of Gear Drive Vendors INC.(They are good people and were not aware that the engine Frank lent them was a customers) We then tracked Frank down on his cell phone and then confronted him at the MSD booth. After catching him in multiple lies, we had uncovered the fact that the engine presented to us via email, photos, documentation and serial numbers was not our engine, and that we had been stolen from and defrauded after 7 months the sum of $35,000.

December 2007: We have aggressively persued Frank Beck since SEMA only to be met with belligerent, threatening, victom-role behavior. We have further uncovered over 2 dozen arrests and convictions to include a felony theft in May 2007. We currently are building a SEMA going 69 Camaro. The client is very upset and progress has been very slow because of this issue. At this time, we are working with detectives in the Phoenix police department and the state attorney generals office to have Frank brought up on theft, fraud and felony charges.. To date, we are out our $35,000. We have purchased our transmission elsewhere and have now started the engine building process all over with a more reputable builder who we have done our homework on.

Please, do your homework and a background check as we have also uncovered over a dozen judgements pending against him, all for the sums of $30,000-$50,000. Don't end up in the same situation that we did.
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This type of stuff used to surprise me, not any more.

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yup same here.
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Check this **** out. He is screwing someone else as well.
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99974
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Wow....this guy is nothing but trouble.
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damn... he is just like me with shipping... but in the end i always do ship my **** out
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I agree with Rick on this one. This kinda stuff used to be a surprise to me but its all too common anymore.

The Fast and furious crowd contributes so much to that kind of theft and fraud too. Can't count how many people I know that were in over their heads on some honda they were building to have the cars mysteriously come up missing?? Seriously??

I live in a pretty nice city myself, but you still have to watch what you're doing when going home. There are plenty of people who are all too happy to go ahead and help them selfs to your car after finding out where you live. Instead of working hard to earn your own god damn money its just so much easier to find someone elses **** and just take it.


40% of this list involves a honda. But then again, it doesn't help matters that all you need is a Phillips screwdriver and a hammer to take almost any honda ever built.
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According to the Insurance Bureau of Canada, the following are the 10 most stolen cars in 2007:

1. 1999 Honda Civic SiR 2-door
2. 2000 Honda Civic SiR 2-door
3. 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX/WRX STi 4-door AWD
4. 1999 Acura Integra 2-door
5. 1994 Dodge/Plymouth Grand Caravan/Voyager
6.1994 Dodge/Plymouth Grand Caravan/Voyager AWD
7. 1994 Dodge/Plymouth Caravan/Voyager
8. 1998 Acura Integra 2-door
9. 2000 Audi TT Quattro 2-door Coupe
10. 1994 Dodge/Plymouth Shadow/Sundance 2-door Hatchback

The IBC estimates auto thefts cost Canadian consumers than than a $1 billion/year

LEAST STOLEN VEHICLES

1. (tie) 2003 Buick Le Sabre 4-door
2. (tie) 2003 Cadillac Deville 4-door
3. (tie) 2002 Ford/Mercury Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis 4-door
4. (tie) 2000 Saturn SW1 Wagon
5. (tie) 2000 Lincoln Continental 4-door
6. (tie) 2000 Volvo S70 4-door
7. (tie) 1998 Hyundai Accent 4-door
8. (tie) 1997 Buick Regal 4-door
9. (tie) 1996 Buick Park Avenue 4-door
10. 2001 Toyota Highlander 4-door 2WD
The dodge minivan doesn't surprise me a single bit either. Those are shipped out to Mexico and resold like a majority of American suvs stolen.
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So whats the problem you guys are having with extracting your money from him?
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Damn that sucks to hear. How did you decide on him in the first place though?
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