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Old 11-28-2011, 10:50 AM   #1
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Default NSFab baller Volvo v. MegaSquirt glory hole

My buddy Nick Salyer (NSFab) is one of those "renegade engineer" types. He swapped in a single-turbo Supra engine, auto trans, uses MS3x's standard board to control the fuel and spark, built a VVTi controller, build an automatic trans controller and helped write the firmware, and he's generally badass and rules at life.

http://www.brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=952



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HAH. ******* love the rageface dash. I saw that on reddit the other day and wondered how long it would take to see it in the real world somewhere.

Rest of the car is ****. The outside makes me want to settle down with my domestic partner and adopt a few babies from a third world country. The inside makes me want to ********** violently into a paper cup.
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love what people are doing to those coffin looking things.
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People like this guy make me wish I applied myself more in school rather than drink beer and waste money on cars back when I was young. I suppose its never too late to learn how to do math and get an engineering degree.
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You don't have to be good at math and have an engineering degree to do badass **** to cars like this.
The fact that mostly "those" people happen to have engineering degrees is because they are typically the kinda people with a TON of dedication, determination, and patience. That's the common denominator with people that do insane builds and have engineering degrees.

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haha, I am EE and I can't do this.

Very cool stuff!
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Are people actually tracking those old volvo wagons? We had one when I was growing up. What kind of performance are we talking about? I've never looked into the volvo wagon track world.
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http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=117462

Old volvos still can race, but the new ones aren't nearly as active. You can see the S60/S60R racing in World Speed Challenge. Pobst does really ****** good in it. I think he won last year, or the year before. They run it as a Petite Le'Mans support race sometimes too.
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Having an engineering degree does not an engineer make. I'm surrounded daily by guys with engineering degrees that haven't the foggiest idea how the things around them actually work.

I actually worked for a guy for several years who had a Masters in Mechanical Engineering, his Professional Engineer's License (the Holy Grail of Nerd-dom), a DOCTORATE in Reliability Engineering, literally WROTE THE BOOK on Reliability and Failure Analysis as an engineering science (as opposed to worse-than-useless statistics hokey pokey nonsense), and he could not begin to tell you how his 94 Saturn station wagon worked. He simply had no idea.

Interestingly, he was an exceptional reliability engineer, as long as the problem was actually in the scope of the list of parts that you sent him. If you said, "The header on my GSXR-1000 cracks at the head flanges every once in a while," and sent him a drawing of a header, he'd have it trussed up like a suspension bridge and armored like a Bradley fighting vehicle before he added a 30 gram bracket to the totally unsupported other end of the exhaust to keep it from swinging in the breeze and cracking the head pipes, because he didn't really understand how the bike worked.

You see the work of guys like him all the time, you just don't realize it. For example, the intake manifold on a Honda K20Z has these outrageous bosses on it to hold up <300 grams of fuel rail and pulsation damper. Some reliability engineer saw that fuel rail hung out in space in a CAD drawing, and did some hokey poke statistics involving a million billion cycles of a 1000N force on each of the three bosses, and showed his nice Excel sheet to a muckety muck bean counter at Honda's legal office who made sure the fuel rail didn't break off of the first Civic to roll off the line with that intake manifold and burn up their loyal customers. Nobody stopped and said, "Wait a minute, guys. You don't need to add all that silly nonsense to this manifold to hold up 300 grams of fuel rail." Nobody put a fuel rail in the muckety muck's hand and show him that he was adding 3 times the weight of the fuel rail to the intake manifold to hold up the rail. Every jackass who had the opportunity to throw the 'that's dumb' flag, but didn't is exactly the kind of non-engineer that I'm talking about.
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People like this guy make me wish I applied myself more in school rather than drink beer and waste money on cars back when I was young. I suppose its never too late to learn how to do math and get an engineering degree.
Your friend seem like the kinda guy that would be baller with our without the degree.
My brother has a similar volvo, slow and automatic.
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If you said, "The header on my GSXR-1000 cracks at the head flanges every once in a while," and sent him a drawing of a header, he'd have it trussed up like a suspension bridge and armored like a Bradley fighting vehicle before he added a 30 gram bracket to the totally unsupported other end of the exhaust to keep it from swinging in the breeze and cracking the head pipes, because he didn't really understand how the bike worked.
75-80% of the people in my engineering program have 0 hands on experience and have no idea of how to make something work, but they're great at calculus. Only 10% of us have substantially modified a car or designed and built anything at all, that's the future.

That's a wicked car, it's kinda along the lines of the V8 locost that one of my capable classmates built.
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Yes, they used to race those bricks in BTCC and DTM.



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The C30 got 2nd and 3rd overall for this year.
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The C30s were also ludicrously fast for the class they are in. Funny thing, at the second WC race at Mid-Ohio the C30s finished 1st and 2nd, and a Civic Si finished 3rd. For the post race tech inspection they made the Honda team pull off the head and they thoroughly inspected it. What did they do to the Volvos? Nothing. They went straight into their trailer. The K-pax guys were loaded up and leaving while the Compass guys were still putting their car back together.

Weird how the third place car who's fastest lap time was 1+ seconds slower than the C30s got the most attention by the stewards...
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Old Video, but cool anyway. Volvo retired this car from the Swedish Touring Car Championship this fall. Will miss the noise it made!!

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The C30s were also ludicrously fast for the class they are in. Funny thing, at the second WC race at Mid-Ohio the C30s finished 1st and 2nd, and a Civic Si finished 3rd. For the post race tech inspection they made the Honda team pull off the head and they thoroughly inspected it. What did they do to the Volvos? Nothing. They went straight into their trailer. The K-pax guys were loaded up and leaving while the Compass guys were still putting their car back together.

Weird how the third place car who's fastest lap time was 1+ seconds slower than the C30s got the most attention by the stewards...
Not sure really, but the Civic Si is no slouch either. He won the championship.
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Oh man! glad I saw that video, looks like they picked a good place for the tire temp sensors.
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Not sure really, but the Civic Si is no slouch either. He won the championship.
He won the championship because he ran the full season and he's a good driver (Lawson Aschenbach). I don't think the Volvo's debuted until the 2nd or 3rd race. Also, for the first half of the season no one was showing up for WC Touring Car races, hence why Shea Holbrook (who got lapped at the mid-ohio races, she's terrible) won a race. Since the competition was so weak at the beggining of the year it was easy for Lawson to build up a big lead. Don't get me wrong the Si is still fairly competitive but if you look at lap times of the Volvos they are usually at least a full second faster than the Si's, with lower caliber drivers.
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I don't know about the SCCA, but the AMA decides which finishing positions will be torn down before the weekend begins. Unless there's a protest filed, they only tear down the guys who finish in those positions.
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He won the championship because he ran the full season and he's a good driver (Lawson Aschenbach). I don't think the Volvo's debuted until the 2nd or 3rd race. Also, for the first half of the season no one was showing up for WC Touring Car races, hence why Shea Holbrook (who got lapped at the mid-ohio races, she's terrible) won a race. Since the competition was so weak at the beggining of the year it was easy for Lawson to build up a big lead. Don't get me wrong the Si is still fairly competitive but if you look at lap times of the Volvos they are usually at least a full second faster than the Si's, with lower caliber drivers.
I don't know enough to discuss this with you, but I can tell you that K-pax was there at the beginning of the season. they participated in all the races:
http://www.world-challenge.com/serie...age=TeamPoints
http://www.world-challenge.com/event...nts.php?ID=431

I think world speed challenge adds weight for winning, so perhaps thats why they were so fast?

Anyways, this thread is about Hustler's friend's Volvo
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