^ Theft is mt.net taking a sponsor away from m.net,not blocking useless shit on the site.
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Elesjuan, you trying to get in on the ban action too? :bowrofl:
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Originally Posted by Gary J Fischman
As far as I'm concerned, blocking advertising is theft of service. It costs us money for you to view the site. Contrary to the opinion of some, the Internet is not the same as broadcast TV or Radio. With TV or Radio, there is no incremental cost for 1 additional viewer. But with the Internet, there is. Each additional reader uses CPU cycles, bandwidth, disk space for logs, etc. We've already taken a major hit over the past few years due to adblockers that have caused our delivered banner impressions to drop, despite a rise in readership.
So - I'll say again - adblockers are theft of service. Please either support the site, or put up with the ads. Holy hell, I'm about to die!! Gary really is a complete fucking TOOLBAG!!! The fagbox already deleted my post... IB hes writing a PM right meow.. |
Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 324332)
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Holy hell, I'm about to die!! Gary really is a complete fucking TOOLBAG!!! |
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 324321)
How is that stealing?
Gary & his band of monkies are seriously fucked in the head. You do understand how sites like this site and M.net make money, right? They deliver ads. Just like network television makes their money on ad revenue, just like every sports team and every racing team/series in the world. Advertising is one of the largest industries in the world. I don't really care if you block ads, although Gary disagrees vehemently. The way I see it is that if you are installing adblockers, you wouldn't be clicking ads anwyay. Telling other people how to get around it, though, is crossing the line. How would you feel if you dropped $1k+ on bandwidth every month for a forum, and then put up ads to recoup some of the costs, only to have your members laugh about blocking the ads that support the site? Stop being dicks about it. Christ, half of us pay $30/year or more for this site. Cough up the $20 over there, or shut the fuck up. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 324342)
Just like network television makes their money on ad revenue
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Adblock + Firefox + Filterset.g
is vastly superior to just Adblock + Firefox |
Originally Posted by supersaiyan93
(Post 324346)
oh man, NBC would love to talk to my DVR then, because I don't put up with ads there either.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 324342)
You retarded? How is it not stealing?
You do understand how sites like this site and M.net make money, right? They deliver ads. Just like network television makes their money on ad revenue, just like every sports team and every racing team/series in the world. Advertising is one of the largest industries in the world. I don't really care if you block ads, although Gary disagrees vehemently. The way I see it is that if you are installing adblockers, you wouldn't be clicking ads anwyay. Telling other people how to get around it, though, is crossing the line. How would you feel if you dropped $1k+ on bandwidth every month for a forum, and then put up ads to recoup some of the costs, only to have your members laugh about blocking the ads that support the site? Stop being dicks about it. Christ, half of us pay $30/year or more for this site. Cough up the $20 over there, or shut the fuck up. It's not really stealing,it's more like freedom of choice.People choose to view the adds or not. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 324342)
You retarded? How is it not stealing?
You do understand how sites like this site and M.net make money, right? They deliver ads. Just like network television makes their money on ad revenue, just like every sports team and every racing team/series in the world. Advertising is one of the largest industries in the world. I don't really care if you block ads, although Gary disagrees vehemently. The way I see it is that if you are installing adblockers, you wouldn't be clicking ads anwyay. Telling other people how to get around it, though, is crossing the line. How would you feel if you dropped $1k+ on bandwidth every month for a forum, and then put up ads to recoup some of the costs, only to have your members laugh about blocking the ads that support the site? Stop being dicks about it. Christ, half of us pay $30/year or more for this site. Cough up the $20 over there, or shut the fuck up. Whether you care or not, I respect you here.. But take that bullshit back to M.net. I would bet you that Gary makes PROFIT from m.net off the 20+ forum sponsors and subscriptions from members, muchless paying out for bandwidth and servers. Do you have a DVR? Do you ever find yourself fastforwarding through commercials? I do. Am I stealing my television now? Oh wait, I don't pay for cable anyway. Oops. :giggle: Yeah, I spend 3$ a month to support this site because I know my money is going to something good, not to fatten up that toolbox's wallet. :jerkit: |
Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 324356)
Whether you care or not, I respect you here.. But take that bullshit back to M.net. I would bet you that Gary makes PROFIT from m.net off the 20+ forum sponsors and subscriptions from members, muchless paying out for bandwidth and servers.
Do you have a DVR? Do you ever find yourself fastforwarding through commercials? I do. Am I stealing my television now? Oh wait, I don't pay for cable anyway. Oops. :giggle: Yeah, I spend 3$ a month to support this site because I know my money is going to something good, not to fatten up that toolbox's wallet. :jerkit: Gary already makes more than enough money to support that site,he's just plain greedy and wants more money. |
Rules are only as good as they are enforcable. Fischman can't currently enforce the non-use of adblockers so therefore he can't enforce the rule.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 324367)
Rules are only as good as they are enforcable. Fischman can't currently enforce the non-use of adblockers so therefore he can't enforce the rule.
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 324370)
.....but according to some people it's stealing!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 324370)
.....but according to some people it's stealing!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 324397)
that site steals my soul. can we call it even?
Then again,he would acuse you of being a thief anyways,so why bother. |
Originally Posted by elesjuan
(Post 324356)
Whether you care or not, I respect you here.. But take that bullshit back to M.net. I would bet you that Gary makes PROFIT from m.net off the 20+ forum sponsors and subscriptions from members, muchless paying out for bandwidth and servers.
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 324364)
Gary already makes more than enough money to support that site,he's just plain greedy and wants more money.
Is Rick (the owner of this site) just plain greedy because he added an enormous banner for non-subscribers, a bunch of in-forum advertising at the bottom of the page, and Google ads? No. He's a businessman. Here's an interesting note: I poked around, curious as to how Mozilla makes any money at all. -85% of the revenue that Mozilla made in 2006 was from Google, which paid them $57m to include the Google Toolbar as the default search engine in their browser. -Google's net revenue from advertising in 2006 was $10.492b (yes, billion) dollars in 2006. This represents 99% of Google's total revenue. -You could argue that the single company most affected by Firefox's AdBlock plugin is Google |
Sav,it's one thing to run a good business and provide the user with a good product(mozilla & google),it's totally different when Gary is charging the money he does and at the same time providing a now shitty forum(not what it use to be a few years ago)and expect people to be happy with it.
M.net had/has alot of potential,gary just needs to thin out the morons he elected as mods and get decent understanding people to do the job and let rules bend a little. |
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 324454)
Sav,it's one thing to run a good business and provide the user with a good product(mozilla & google),it's totally different when Gary is charging the money he does and at the same time providing a now shitty forum(not what it use to be a few years ago)and expect people to be happy with it.
M.net had/has alot of potential,gary just needs to thin out the morons he elected as mods and get decent understanding people to do the job and let rules bend a little. |
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