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Old 03-02-2019, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
That's a pretty nice setup you have there.
Thank you. It truly astonishes me how affordable seriously pro-grade hardware (and, more recently, software) has become.

I remember paying $10k a pair for good Genelec monitors in the 90s. Today, I can get 99.44% of that quality for 2% of the cost.

This business is weird as hell.




Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
So, you might not have found either of those songs (original or cover) pleasing to the ear, but commenting about one's personal taste in music based on that is a bit of a stretch. C'mon Joe, you're smarter than that.
That's the thing which still haunts me.

I can understand teenagers thinking that Nickleback or Ariana Grande are actually decent sounds. It's wrong, but it's forgivable in the context of the audience. Young people are still as stupid today as they were when I was their age. It's a basic tenet of reality; teenagers, while talented in many regards, are complete idiots when it comes to having a broad, holistic sense of good taste.

I don't mean that to sound derogatory, it's just the truth. By way of saying this, I will freely admit that I thought that Beavis & Butthead were the pinnacle of cinema verite back in 1992. It's just more supporting evidence that kids are dumb. Which is not relevant here.


What I cannot understand is a mature adult thinking that the titles in the playlist which you posted are in any way compatible with a reasonable definition of "good music."


As someone who has personally spent time being tortured in a Russian (well, Cuban, but Russian-controlled) prison during the Soviet era, I can honestly say that listening to the entire "Wolf Like Me" single, be it from the original artist or a cover band, is the most gruesome horror which I can imagine.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I can accept that the minor-key version of Hey Jude is a bit out there.

I have an admittedly unusual fondness for minor-key renditions of popular music.

A poorly-executed but still admirable example:






This is a really weird one, but it captivates me:






This guy is annoying to listen to (speaking, not playing), but fairly talented. Skip to 0:45:

Two out of three ain't bad. First one, meh. Second one cool, mixing not the best, vocal should be more up front. Third one, this kid is good. His Youtube channel is disappointing; he should stay with performing.
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Seriously, I really want to read an academic paper which investigates how that particular pattern of cars emerged naturally in a parking lot in central Colorado. It's damned odd, if you ask me.
According to a WikiLeaks Top Secret report from the FBI's Fox Mulder, the town has been consumed by Body Snatchers and it's their way of discretely signalling observers from outer space that the first stage of their invasion plan has been successfully completed.

Take care Joe, they now know that you know!

Damnit! They now know that I know too, why'd you have to drag me into this?
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Old 03-02-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Thank you. It truly astonishes me how affordable seriously pro-grade hardware (and, more recently, software) has become.

I remember paying $10k a pair for good Genelec monitors in the 90s. Today, I can get 99.44% of that quality for 2% of the cost.

This business is weird as hell.




That's the thing which still haunts me.

I can understand teenagers thinking that Nickleback or Ariana Grande are actually decent sounds. It's wrong, but it's forgivable in the context of the audience. Young people are still as stupid today as they were when I was their age. It's a basic tenet of reality; teenagers, while talented in many regards, are complete idiots when it comes to having a broad, holistic sense of good taste.

I don't mean that to sound derogatory, it's just the truth. By way of saying this, I will freely admit that I thought that Beavis & Butthead were the pinnacle of cinema verite back in 1992. It's just more supporting evidence that kids are dumb. Which is not relevant here.


What I cannot understand is a mature adult thinking that the titles in the playlist which you posted are in any way compatible with a reasonable definition of "good music."


As someone who has personally spent time being tortured in a Russian (well, Cuban, but Russian-controlled) prison during the Soviet era, I can honestly say that listening to the entire "Wolf Like Me" single, be it from the original artist or a cover band, is the most gruesome horror which I can imagine.
Therein lies the infinite loop that makes debating most music a problem- personal taste. For me, I've been listening to Local-H since the mid-90's and they're still performing and releasing albums. They've do so and managed to keep "their sound" and not change based on a radio single, and have fun while doing so. Are they amazing? No, but to me, they're a solid listening experience, and make for a fun live show. However, there is definitely some music that is universally **** lol.

In regards to your comments about the other songs, am I correct in understanding that you do not consider any of those as good music (pertaining to the original songs)? If so, then it's a simple matter of opinion, which I can respect by not forming any opinion of my own about what you define as "good music" (and I'm not, promise). At least we're able to have a choice An example of what I consider to be good music is Godspeed You! Black Emperor....which is definitely a band with a fairly narrow base of people who can listen to them for hours.

You have piqued my interest in the meaning of that song and why/what makes it offending. Genuine curiosity, really.
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Great, so many pictures in here.

Let me show you my day.








The boys put in some work. Even taught the new kid how to swap out some flat cable.

And for your ear holes.

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I was too busy crawling around under the car installing the new Xidas to take/post any pics.
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The boys put in some work. Even taught the new kid how to swap out some flat cable.
I'll admit some curiosity, do the wires come pre-embedded in that yellow sheath? I'd assume not but am unsure how one would pull new wires through great lengths unless its split.

Customer that came in awhile back. Had a few wiring gremlins, he eventually decided he could live with them when we looked behind his instrument panel and quoted him a large chunk of hours to tear everything out and declutter 40+ years worth of various instrument installations. Ended up just terminating loose ends and ziptieing everything up and out of the way of the flight controls.

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I'll admit some curiosity, do the wires come pre-embedded in that yellow sheath? I'd assume not but am unsure how one would pull new wires through great lengths unless its split.

Customer that came in awhile back. Had a few wiring gremlins, he eventually decided he could live with them when we looked behind his instrument panel and quoted him a large chunk of hours to tear everything out and declutter 40+ years worth of various instrument installations. Ended up just terminating loose ends and ziptieing everything up and out of the way of the flight controls.

Mmmmmm spaghetti. But I know, in some cases, there is no "clean" way to do things.

Previous work in a position of dealing with cabling and assembly, I saw many areas for improvement that could be implemented at early stages that would make later steps easier, as well as simplifying later work in the field. Seeing wires (and now vacuum/pressure lines for pneumatic systems) in complete disarray makes me cringe. I have a prototype object that would make a variety of such installs much easier to deal with either by adding to the initial build, or retrofit by an end user.....I just need to get it into view of the right people to back it up for production and marketing. Seeing zip-ties on cables and pneumatic lines makes me cringe, and I have a simple solution to those areas (on larger gauge diameter lines...like 5mm+ where crimping/pinching can cause issues). I've made past posts displaying such organization devices. I've done my research and found some "high end"/boutique pieces of similar design, but nothing suitable for being an inexpensive product for mass production in manufacturing environments. Coincidentally, the physical dimensions also make them a super fun desktop tinker toy.
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Originally Posted by Wingman703
I'll admit some curiosity, do the wires come pre-embedded in that yellow sheath? I'd assume not but am unsure how one would pull new wires through great lengths unless its split.

Customer that came in awhile back. Had a few wiring gremlins, he eventually decided he could live with them when we looked behind his instrument panel and quoted him a large chunk of hours to tear everything out and declutter 40+ years worth of various instrument installations. Ended up just terminating loose ends and ziptieing everything up and out of the way of the flight controls.
yes. It gets laid out flat, all 250' of it. Then the trolleys are assembled around it.The ends are terminated at terminal blocks at each end. Then single insulated wire is pulled through conduit to the control panels.



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Originally Posted by Wingman703
Ended up just terminating loose ends and ziptieing everything up and out of the way of the flight controls.

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*surprised cat*
You would be surprised/horrified to know how many of these older general aviation planes are absolute electrical nightmares. When they rolled out of the factory in the 60's/70's there weren't many electrical systems past some lighting. As regulations changed and technology advanced to include items like radar, ADSB, GPS, ect, these planes had alot of new tech grafted into them the cheapest and quickest way possible to save a few dollars, resulting in lots of now unused wiring, systems talking over each other, and electrical gremlins that have no logical answer.
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Originally Posted by Wingman703
You would be surprised/horrified to know how many of these older general aviation planes are absolute electrical nightmares. When they rolled out of the factory in the 60's/70's there weren't many electrical systems past some lighting. As regulations changed and technology advanced to include items like radar, ADSB, GPS, ect, these planes had alot of new tech grafted into them the cheapest and quickest way possible to save a few dollars, resulting in lots of now unused wiring, systems talking over each other, and electrical gremlins that have no logical answer.
I can totally see what you mean. We have a similar situation in TV, dealing with facilities that were originally constructed in the black-n-white era, then upgraded to color, then upgraded with large crosspoint routers, then upgraded to SDI, then upgraded to HD-SDI, etc... I still come across cabling in this place that's been obsolete since the late 70s, but is still there because it's at the bottom of a cable tray with tons (literal tons) of newer wiring atop it.

Some of it it really impressive, like the cables that serviced the RCA TK-41s, which were the first gen color cameras. They're about 1.5" in diameter, contain about 60 conductors, and you need a hacksaw to cut them. You can see the big cable coming out of the front-bottom of the camera here:



I probably still have a mile or two of that stuff in place.


And, of course, that doesn't even touch stuff like elevator controls, climate controls, and fire-alarm systems in some of the skyscrapers we work in. I think I posted this photo earlier, but this is one of many panels at Sears Tower on the 104th floor which control the building's chilled-water system:





Big pumps. I love being in that room.


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Fail 1
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Fail 2, but here’s the link to a cool welding video:

https://www.instagram.com/engineerin...=11m6ogl69bv08
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Here Joe, perhaps maybe a bit of redemption for your ears from earlier....






Let's see. Random picture. What weird **** have I seen lately. Ahhhh yes. I'll take "My vanity tag will make you look twice for $1,000 Alex"


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On a subaru no less, lol
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Didn't spot anything interesting while visiting. Maybe I'll check again in 5 years.
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