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18psi 06-02-2011 02:44 PM

/\ That's wrong. The proper way to do it is shift, depress clutch, then shift again

spitefulcheerio 06-02-2011 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 733825)
/\ That's wrong. The proper way to do it is shift, depress clutch, then shift again

How could I have much such a silly mistake?! He's completely right

UnknownPerson 06-02-2011 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by spitefulcheerio (Post 733826)

Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 733825)
/\ That's wrong. The proper way to do it is shift, depress clutch, then shift again

How could I have much such a silly mistake?! He's completely right

Holy crap! He is right... POWER SHIFTING? Pfffft, double shifting from now on... with a 10lbs orb on my short shift. Done.

UnknownPerson 06-02-2011 03:02 PM

For real, what about rev-matching and heel-toe downshifting? I try to rev-match as often as possible when down shifting but I have zero luck when attempting heel-toe, but I'm sure that's just because I need more practice.

What are your opinions and comments on both these techniques?

Joe Perez 06-02-2011 03:05 PM

Also, once the cast-lead shift orb has been installed, you can slightly decrease your shift times for the 2->3 and 4->5 transition by slamming on the brakes the instant you depress the clutch. The inertia of the shift orb trying to maintain its forward velocity as the car slows down around it will add a small amount of additional force to what you'd be able to accomplish on your own using only both arms.

Achieving a similar effect on the 1->2 and 3->4 shift is rather more complicated, and requires the use of nitrous oxide and extremely good timing.

UnknownPerson 06-02-2011 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 733831)
...requires the use of nitrous oxide and extremely good timing

NOS ordered. Got one of the big tanks... on second thought, I'll make it two.

Where can I order the "good timing"? The NOS and Large Lead Orb store didn't carry any :S

thagr81 us 06-02-2011 03:32 PM

Easy answer... Buy a dog ring sequential tranny. Only use the clutch to get going or come to a stop. Get laid... True story.

soviet 06-02-2011 03:47 PM

theres your shift knob
http://www.amazon.com/CAP-Barbell-50...uct/B003J9PT82

samnavy 06-02-2011 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by UnknownPerson (Post 733830)
For real, what about rev-matching and heel-toe downshifting? I try to rev-match as often as possible when down shifting but I have zero luck when attempting heel-toe, but I'm sure that's just because I need more practice.
What are your opinions and comments on both these techniques?

You rev-match when downshifting to accelerate or come to a stop?

Rev-matching when downshifting to accelerate makes no sense... let's play this out... depress clutch, pull out of gear, blip throttle/hold throttle, select new gear, release clutch, apply gas, wait for boost to build, accelerate. Just mash the throttle and let it out, or let it slip a little to build boost if you're a bit low in the rpm's, but to "rev-match" is fucking retarded.

Downshifting when coming to a stop... is your dick really that small?

Downshifting and when coming to a stop while watching the light for cross-traffic and trying to time your green is fine ... but there's no need to rev-match or hit every gear on the way down.

Bottom line, any time you blip your throttle on the street for any reason, you highlight yourself as either a child or a guy who can't get laid under any circumstance. Just drive "normal", and go read Post#2 again. If it's a crushing blow to your ego to just be another sheeple and shift normally, then perhaps the guys at CR.net can make you feel better. I'm telling you this for your own good.

Just think of it this way... start reading the posts of the very serious track-guys on this forum, the guys who have fully-built Miata racecars and are highly regarded as the experts... listen to the language they use and how they conduct themselves (Hustler notwithstanding) Do you think they rev-match, hit every gear, and heel-toe on the street?

18psi 06-02-2011 03:59 PM

What do you weigh?
Cause another idea is to thread your asshole and use your whole body as a shifter.
100+ lbs
Doesn't get much better than that

Gotpsi? 06-02-2011 04:05 PM

On the serious side of things, rev matching dose not have to be done "heel toe" on the track we do that because we need to maintain brake while shifting, there is nothing wrong with rev matching and down shifting with out the brake, If you are heel toeing out of necessity on the street I dont want to be anywhere near you. Rev matching is good for the tanny because it saves wear on the syncrows. In racing it keeps you from adding unnecessary load the the rear tires in out cars that could cause you to spin if you are trail braking.

UnknownPerson 06-02-2011 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Gotpsi? (Post 733852)
If you are heel toeing out of necessity on the street I dont want to be anywhere near you.

Heh, not doing it out of necessity, just attempting out of curiousity.

Clos561 06-02-2011 04:34 PM

shift how you normally shift but do it alot faster. you can practice shifting fast at low speeds so u dont hit rev limiter. you really only benefit from power shifting (no lift/ keep gas floored) if your turbo because you wont lose spool in your shift.

elesjuan 06-02-2011 06:21 PM

Keep the throttle pinned to the floor and powershift gears...


Unless you value your transmission.

thagr81 us 06-02-2011 07:58 PM



I can\'t believe this thread is still going... But if you decide to go with the asshole idea, make sure you have the right thread pattern. Cross-threading wouldn\'t be a good thing.

NA6C-Guy 06-02-2011 07:59 PM

I like to sneak up on the trans by going the opposite way it expects. It thinks I'm shifting up from redline in 3rd, I shift down!

flounder 06-02-2011 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by dgmorr (Post 733123)


Love curb!! :laugh:

kotomile 06-02-2011 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 733849)
Just think of it this way... start reading the posts of the very serious track-guys on this forum, the guys who have fully-built Miata racecars and are highly regarded as the experts... listen to the language they use and how they conduct themselves (Hustler notwithstanding) Do you think they rev-match, hit every gear, and heel-toe on the street?

::thinks back to the time I was in the car with an unnamed member of the Dallas MT crew during a game of White Miata Tag::

x808drifter 06-03-2011 02:15 AM

Fastest Way to go through gears like said is a heavier shift knob. BUT make it outta gold. (Weighs more/Look like a baller)

Also the miata gears are so close stock just go straight from 2nd gear redline to 5th.

pusha 06-03-2011 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 733897)
Keep the throttle pinned to the floor and powershift gears...


Unless you value your transmission.

Gotta love $150 5-speeds.


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