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Faeflora 01-31-2012 02:49 AM

Should I buy another miata?
 
I am about to drop 35-50k on some spiffy new car. BMW 335d, Lexus IS-F, or merc C63AMG.

I really want something that is very pleasant to spend time in while I shlep around the DC beltway in stop and go traffic etc.

Instead of buying one of the aforementioned cars, should I instead


Just Buy Another Miata?


I really love my miata so why shouldn't I just buy another NB for daily driving whroing? OR A NC

Joe Perez 01-31-2012 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 828642)
I am about to drop 35-50k on some spiffy new car. BMW 335d, Lexus IS-F, or merc C63AMG.

I really want something that is very pleasant to spend time in while I shlep around the DC beltway in stop and go traffic etc.

Early '00s Jaguar XKR.

You can find 'em all day long for $15k in either coupe or ragtop. Comfy ride, capable handling, 370 HP / 387 ft/lbs. And sexy as hell.

gearhead_318 01-31-2012 03:07 AM

I've always thought about getting an NB and making the interior real nice. Adding nav, a nice sound system, sound deadening everywhere including on the inside of the hardtop, Alcantara seats, steering wheel, door panels ect. (since I'm guessing you don't want to go with suede). I think when I get an NB I'm going to do some of that, diffidently wrap the rollbar in something nice. Maybe start with a nice clean 10AE, get black 6UL wheels, a black hardtop. All that stuff plus xidas, big brakes, a 6 speed with 3.73 gears and a high revving LS1 would make my perfect miata.

Then again even if you left out the drivetrain mods, it would still be a project. I think a 335D would be a nice counterbalance to your high strung boostmobile, maybe it'd give you some appreciation for Miatas power.

Saying fuk it to the Subi?

EDIT:
Aren't those jags horribly unreliable, hence the price tag?

Faeflora 01-31-2012 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 828648)
Then again even if you left out the drivetrain mods, it would still be a project. I think a 335D would be a nice counterbalance to your high strung boostmobile, maybe it'd give you some appreciation for Miatas power.

Saying fuk it to the Subi?

EDIT:
Aren't those jags horribly unreliable, hence the price tag?



I don't want another project. If I got another NB i would probably just put on my old racing beat exhaust and some lowering springs. And a rollbar when I found one. And my silver 6UL set.

The used subie I was going to get was sold. I am just going to sell the subie to carmax or someone for like 3000.

Quality Control Bot 01-31-2012 05:48 AM

test drive. decide.

chpmnsws6 01-31-2012 06:41 AM

Can you drive something with 100rwhp again?

Reverant 01-31-2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Rick (Post 828654)
test drive. decide.

This is a logical process. You need to check again to see who the op is - your proposition is invalid.

Bond 01-31-2012 08:27 AM

Geo Metro in pink.

Sean 01-31-2012 08:35 AM

No miata. It would be a great economical idea but you forget you have a complete turbo kit and exhaust for an nb do you really what to have to control yourself from that.lol I would recommend something like jesse's vette 20k and it is sweet fast and fuel efficient when your foot is not on the floor. I think for the price the car is amazing. It also has enough ass that you will not want to mod it.

hustler 01-31-2012 09:23 AM

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I went a few years without modding my daily Miata. I recently got a great deal on shocks for it and since the engine lived a life of sadness with the previous owner, it's going to receive a VVT swap. It's really convenient to have two Miatas in for maintenance and trouble-shooting, I have boxes of wheel bearings, sensors, bolts, clippies...and most go between cars just fine. I haven't owned a car that cost more than one paycheck in 6-years.

My daily is special:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328020050
No one would ever steal it, and this is somewhat liberating. I can park it outside in Houston and I know it will be there when I get back. If it hails, I don't care.

Efini~FC3S 01-31-2012 09:43 AM

Still trolling?

Fae picking a new car is like Hustler fretting about the reliability of his race car. Both are painful to watch...

hustler 01-31-2012 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 828705)
Still trolling?

Fae picking a new car is like Hustler fretting about the reliability of his race car. Both are painful to watch...

Welcome to global ignore, faggette.

Stein 01-31-2012 09:52 AM

OK, I'll bite.

Just find a nice PRHT NC and drive it as-is without modding it. Or just get the 335D. They are basically the same car anyway. I can see why you are cross-shopping them.

samnavy 01-31-2012 10:13 AM

I might have wood.
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/2826953967.html

-Pinto has s.b. 289 bored .30 over, full length Hooker headers, 10 to 1 compression, complete assembly balanced.
351 Windsor heads, Perfect-Circle Valve Stem Seals, bronze guides, screw in studs and guide plates. Competition hyd cam for 351 (nice lope)
-4 barrel Holley, Edelbrock alum. intake
-c4 trans w/ extra clutches in pack, reverse manual, Fairbanks 2800 stall.
9" Ford rear w/ 411 gears.
5 Lug Conversion

http://images.craigslist.org/5N95V05...30c9881a28.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/5Nc5Le5...3386da1fb2.jpg

y8s 01-31-2012 10:14 AM

get a daily driver that is impossible to mod. then you will no longer be troll with sawzall.

thirdgen 01-31-2012 10:19 AM

I saw a C32 AMG in Media, PA or might have been Conshohocken...it was black, gorgeous, had a window sticker that said 2010...$29,000
There.

Vashthestampede 01-31-2012 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 828718)
get a daily driver that is impossible to mod. then you will no longer be troll with sawzall.

Failflora will ALWAYS be a troll with a sawzall. lol

18psi 01-31-2012 11:17 AM

Just buy a mobile home.
Comfy, and you won't be tempted to mod.

chpmnsws6 01-31-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 828742)
Just buy a mobile home.
Comfy, and you won't be tempted to mod.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328026811

Savington 01-31-2012 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 828742)
Just buy a mobile home.
Comfy, and you won't be tempted to mod.

Just watch out for ride-alongs.

vehicular 01-31-2012 11:23 AM

Late Countachs are getting cheaper every day...

shuiend 01-31-2012 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 828689)
I went a few years without modding my daily Miata. I recently got a great deal on shocks for it and since the engine lived a life of sadness with the previous owner, it's going to receive a VVT swap. It's really convenient to have two Miatas in for maintenance and trouble-shooting, I have boxes of wheel bearings, sensors, bolts, clippies...and most go between cars just fine. I haven't owned a car that cost more than one paycheck in 6-years.

My daily is special:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328020050
No one would ever steal it, and this is somewhat liberating. I can park it outside in Houston and I know it will be there when I get back. If it hails, I don't care.

+1

Having a DD miata is great. FailFlora will just have to get some snow tires for it and he will be fine in the winter.

soviet 01-31-2012 11:31 AM

lol @ title change new thread
buy a mazdaspeed, they are sexy and you know it.

Faeflora 01-31-2012 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 828712)
OK, I'll bite.

Just find a nice PRHT NC and drive it as-is without modding it. Or just get the 335D. They are basically the same car anyway. I can see why you are cross-shopping them.

You know I am indeed seriously considering PRHT NC. Thing is though, I look at the engine and

WTF IS ALL THAT CRAP

The only car I kinda know is the miata and the NC may as well be a different car :(

Who wants to sell me a NB?

Joe Perez 01-31-2012 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 828742)
Just buy a mobile home.
Comfy, and you won't be tempted to mod.

If I had a class A motorhome, I would be modifying the ever-loving hell out of it.

Home theater system, stirling engine or turbine genset, solar array, hybrid-electric & biofuel drivetrain conversion with onboard reactor, you name it. :D


I went back and re-read the original post.

I really want something that is very pleasant to spend time in while I shlep around the DC beltway in stop and go traffic etc.
There's actually a very simple (and cheap) solution here. Lincoln Town Car / Mercury Grand Marquis.

I'm dead serious. Avoid the ones with airbag suspension (it's flakey as hell and expensive to fix), but apart from that, they are reliable cars and pleasant to drive.

hustler 01-31-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 828777)
If I had a class A motorhome, I would be modifying the ever-loving hell out of it.

Home theater system, stirling engine or turbine genset, solar array, hybrid-electric & biofuel drivetrain conversion with onboard reactor, you name it. :D

No atomic bong?

Stein 01-31-2012 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 828759)
You know I am indeed seriously considering PRHT NC. Thing is though, I look at the engine and

WTF IS ALL THAT CRAP

The only car I kinda know is the miata and the NC may as well be a different car :(

Who wants to sell me a NB?

NC's are making 280WHP with a bolt on turbo kit. Just sayin'.

I'll sell you my V8 NB in a couple of weeks after alignment and tuning.

18psi 01-31-2012 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 828777)
If I had a class A motorhome, I would be modifying the ever-loving hell out of it.

Home theater system, stirling engine or turbine genset, solar array, hybrid-electric & biofuel drivetrain conversion with onboard reactor, you name it. :D

You totally forgot the sex swing

Stein 01-31-2012 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 828784)
You totally forgot the sex swing

That's not a mod, that's an option. Totally different thing.

rleete 01-31-2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 828717)
-Pinto

My dad had a Pinto wagon, complete with fake wood grain decal sides. Liked the way it handled, but it was woefully underpowered with the straight 4.

Ought to be a fun ride, and perfect for embarassing the ricers.

TurboTim 01-31-2012 12:45 PM

Buy some worn out NA/NB and swap in my entire drivetrain. 2560 with p/s & a/c and 3.90 torsen is perfect for a daily driver. You're 'local' enough to be able to pick it up in person and save on the shipping.

gearhead_318 01-31-2012 01:14 PM

I'll sell you my NA in a few weeks. For realz.

hustler 01-31-2012 01:35 PM

I think my shitbox with the 10:1 VVT swap, 6 speed, 3.63, MS2, AST ride Is going to be pretty awesome for daily duty.

18psi 01-31-2012 01:48 PM

will you be using premium on that or 87 craptane?

soviet 01-31-2012 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 828804)
Buy some worn out NA/NB and swap in my entire drivetrain. 2560 with p/s & a/c and 3.90 torsen is perfect for a daily driver. You're 'local' enough to be able to pick it up in person and save on the shipping.

I like how this went from "I want a nice, expensive, luxurious car" to "buy a beater miata". I have a 91 rusty body if you want it :P

TurboTim 01-31-2012 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 828845)
I like how this went from "I want a nice, expensive, luxurious car" to "buy a beater miata". I have a 91 rusty body if you want it :P

How much? Pics? I'm asking for Fae I swear...

hustler 01-31-2012 02:39 PM

Forget the turbo for the daily, that's too much money. I'm doing a 10:1 VVT swap, MS2+VVTuner, 6-speed, 3.63, and I already have the ASTs. I don't think I can do another 100*f Texas summer in an 85hp car with the AC going.

hustler 01-31-2012 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 828845)
I like how this went from "I want a nice, expensive, luxurious car" to "buy a beater miata". I have a 91 rusty body if you want it :P

"Reasonableness". I look at these people with $600/month car payments, consider my $600 track weekend a few times per year, and realize that I am living my life properly.

TurboTim 01-31-2012 02:41 PM

Forget no turbo for a daily, that's too slow. I don't think I can do another 100°F NJ summer in a 115hp car with the AC going.

pusha 01-31-2012 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 828861)
"Reasonableness". I look at these people with $600/month car payments, consider my $600 track weekend a few times per year, and realize that I am living my life properly.

come visit me <3<3

soviet 02-01-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 828855)
How much? Pics? I'm asking for Fae I swear...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328110365
you want more? :giggle:

Faeflora 02-01-2012 10:44 AM

Wow.

Today i drove "allofit" to work in dc. Stop and go traffic does not a happy commute make with 949 clutch twin ceramic.

soviet 02-01-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 828861)
"Reasonableness". I look at these people with $600/month car payments, consider my $600 track weekend a few times per year, and realize that I am living my life properly.

You, me and almost everyone else on this forum. We are winners. Or the rest of the country is retarded, idk.

TurboTim 02-01-2012 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 829236)
you want more? :giggle:

Yes. "How much?"

y8s 02-01-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 829241)
Wow.

Today i drove "allofit" to work in dc. Stop and go traffic does not a happy commute make with 949 clutch twin ceramic.

I'm sure I could search this forum for my name and "cerametiallic" and find about 50 posts that tell you that would happen.

18psi 02-01-2012 12:15 PM

Who woulda thought a big turbo car with a race clutch and 4" exhaust would suck in stop-n-go traffic.....

Faeflora 02-01-2012 12:56 PM

Enough to make me hate life.

But its ok i figured out that slipping it from 4000rpm does not judder and shake the whole frakking car

Gonna go test drive some cars tonight.

y8s 02-01-2012 01:35 PM

Seriously, there is a reason nobody builds a >350whp "street" miata.

soviet 02-01-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 829244)
Yes. "How much?"

What exactly do you need? I have 2 cars, both 91. That one is the one in my sig with all the good stuff and rust. Other one is clean and repainted but stock.

Original plan was to take both apart, build one good car, and sell the remaining parts (mainly engine, diff, wheels, dash and seats). Everything else would be pretty much free.

If you just want the shell, then free. It's straight and a clean title. Just hideous.

Faeflora 02-01-2012 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 829335)
Seriously, there is a reason nobody builds a >350whp "street" miata.

Well it would be ok if it weren't for the clutch ;p



So I test drove a 335d tonight. D stands for BOORING. I expected much more for FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. The bastard had a lot of road noise and the power curve was boring. Sigh. I really had my hopes high for that thing.


Back to my original question. I think that the answer is "yes".

I found a cheap NB that looks ok so I am going to get it. I'm gonna put 6ULs on it and some racelands and be done. I would much rather put that $35K extra for the stupid beamer or whatever into other shi like vacations and house crap.

thirdgen 02-01-2012 06:42 PM

Pics of new NB please!

Sam TII 02-01-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 829500)
Well it would be ok if it weren't for the clutch ;p



So I test drove a 335d tonight. D stands for BOORING. I expected much more for FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. The bastard had a lot of road noise and the power curve was boring. Sigh. I really had my hopes high for that thing.


Back to my original question. I think that the answer is "yes".

I found a cheap NB that looks ok so I am going to get it. I'm gonna put 6ULs on it and some racelands and be done. I would much rather put that $35K extra for the stupid beamer or whatever into other shi like vacations and house crap.

^This. Cheap but fun dailies for the win. Buying an expensive car is just silly, why drop coin on something that depreciates as fast as a brick falling from the sky. Cars really are a liability, not an asset. Not sure why people get that so backwards.

chpmnsws6 02-01-2012 06:43 PM

I knew you were gay. I had the NC idea all mapped out for you also! Oh well, you can do the same with the NB and be baller X2.

gearhead_318 02-01-2012 06:45 PM

If your after a DD then an NC would really be a good option, you should at least test drive one.

Faeflora 02-01-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 829509)
If your after a DD then an NC would really be a good option, you should at least test drive one.

NC is not $3000.

Faeflora 02-01-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 829506)
Pics of new NB please!



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328140645


:)


Who wants these stupid chrome rimz?

chpmnsws6 02-01-2012 07:06 PM

10ae?

gearhead_318 02-01-2012 07:07 PM

That is $3000? Thats a 10AE if I'm not mistaken.

18psi 02-01-2012 07:08 PM

So wait, lemme get this straight:
This potential daily driver doesn't have the hp/lb ratio of a liter bike, doens't spin the tires at 100mph, doesn't shoot 10' fireballs, and doesn't require constant replacement parts?

WHAT A POS

lol

Faeflora 02-01-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 829522)
10ae?


yes



Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 829523)
That is $3000? Thats a 10AE if I'm not mistaken.


IT HAS TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND MILES ON IT.


Gimme a list of shi to check on it.


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