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Old 09-11-2008, 01:56 PM   #21
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I beg to differ.

While I acknowledge that my hands-on experience with them is limited to their 1.6 Miata kit, and that said kit is a very early product for them, I would not say that it is anywhere near the quality of the kits from FM / Bell. And understand that, by "quality", I'm referring both to the quality of the design and the quality of the manufacture.
The FM and Begi kits I have seen were also their first versions, and the Greddy kit was FAR BETTER in quality and appearance. They have redesigned them to higher quality and finish, but only to match or BARELY exceed the Greddy.

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First, the damn thing was designed for a RHD car, meaning it doesn't really fit right on a LHD car. The air filter rubs against the brake lines.
Only issue I had was from the filter rubbing on the hood, not the brake lines.

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The FPR that they supply is non-adjustable, and is entirely too rich as pre-set.
Required to pass CARB. And it is adjustable, by using different discs from Vortech.

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The turbo itself, while a decent quality Mitsu unit, is not water-cooled.
Not needed.

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The air filter is garbage, and its housing is known to come unscrewed resulting in the ingestion of the two little nuts that hold it together.
And all their newer kits have a newer and better flowing filter. Buy one if you don't like the one it comes with.

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The rubber couplers they supply harden and crack rather quickly, unlike the silicone parts supplied by others.
Never had that issue.

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Have you actually looked at the cast-aluminum intake pieces? Might as well install a restrictor on the compressor outlet. And WTF is up with re-using the stock flexible plastic crossover pipe? You know, the one with the bellows that bursts under boost.
It works fine for the 5.5psi that the kit is designed to run. I ran 7psi on mine and never had it burst.

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Don't get me started on the oil drain...
Yes, I agree with you here. They wanted to make the kit easy to install, so they used the stock oil return setup.

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The downpipe looks like it was cobbled together out of drinking straws by a blind Chinese war orphan.
Mine looked perfect. Way better than the Tony DP I got to replace it. I haven't inspected a FM or Begi DP, so I can't compare them.

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The instructions that they include are a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. I actually drove up to their office in Irvine to request a clean set, and they don't have one!
And could be easily understood by anyone who passed the 6th grade. Even my WIFE looked over it and said, "Wow, that looks easy enough" and she was dead on.

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The kit P/N on the CARB sticker does not match the number on the CARB paperwork.
Never looked, mine went right in the trash. I don't live in Cali, so who cares.

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They have essentially no customer support. I tried for two weeks to get them to mail me a replacement CARB sticker (mine was missing when I bought the kit new from an authorized distributor) and they never did send me one despite multiple promises and a lot of phone tag. This was the primary reason why I had to take an afternoon off of work and make the aforementioned drive to Irvine.
Did you call the place you bought the kit from? They are the ones who are supposed to provide you support. I have never had issues with them as far as customer support, but I also sell them, so maybe I got preferred treatment.

Again, we are going off of one kit to determine our opinion of the whole company. The Miata kit is not one of their shining examples of their work, but it one of their old kits, and it is still on par with the "good kits" that are available today.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:57 PM   #22
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I just read about this on another forum too. It is a shame as the Evo 2 exhaust has to be one of my all time favorites on just about any car.
They are not out of business.
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Obviously none of you have seen their products. Even the Miata Turbo Kit, that you call crap, was as good a quality as the stuff I have seen from Begi and FM. It didn't have all the "big power" mods included like they do, but they also don't have a CARB sticker on them. All their kits fit perfectly, worked perfectly, and looked nice. I have seen a whole range of their kits; Supras, Hondas, Acuras, Miatas, MR2s, etc. They never had issues when installing, like most kits do, and the instructions were spot on. They were one of the few companies whose products would fit without modification 99.9% of the time.

Nothing has come down saying they were closing, so Greddy is still in the game. Much like most of our airlines, bankruptcy isn't the end.
My GReddy Miata kit fit ok except for the drain line. You use the oil drain fitting under the intake manifold and the bend required at the end of the turbo drain pipe was IMHO too drastic, so I had to add a 90degree pipe fitting. Other than that, it fit ok because it doesn't include much. The turbo is junk compared to the BEGI/FM pieces. The tiny greddy downpipe is also basically worthless. Manifold flow is...well, ok for the 6psi it was designed for.

It "worked perfectly", making my miata as fast as a Z24 cavalier filled with 4 fat people as long as the intake plumbing stayed attached to the throttle body. It looked like ***, using the factory plastic intake plumbing.

Besides the BEGI fitment which is less than par on their kits (but they are extremely proactive in fixing the problem which is great), they seem much nicer overall for a similar price.

I've seen other GReddy turbo kits and they seem nicely built, and their exhausts are awesome. I use an EVO2 on my subaru...that says something when everything else on all my cars is built by me.
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i blame the war on iraq for this
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First, the damn thing was designed for a RHD car, meaning it doesn't really fit right on a LHD car. The air filter rubs against the brake lines. Technically you shouldn't buy the kit if you have a LHD car

The FPR that they supply is non-adjustable, and is entirely too rich as pre-set. They're playing it safe, so people can't blame them when their engine blows up from running too lean

The turbo itself, while a decent quality Mitsu unit, is not water-cooled. helps keep price down

The air filter is garbage, and its housing is known to come unscrewed resulting in the ingestion of the two little nuts that hold it together. helps keep price down

The rubber couplers they supply harden and crack rather quickly, unlike the silicone parts supplied by others. helps keep price down

Have you actually looked at the cast-aluminum intake pieces? Might as well install a restrictor on the compressor outlet. And WTF is up with re-using the stock flexible plastic crossover pipe? You know, the one with the bellows that bursts under boost. helps keep price down

Don't get me started on the oil drain... it only doesn't work when people install it incorrectly. lots of people wouldn't of bought it if they knew they had to drill & tap the oil pan. keep in mind most of the people on this board are the exception to that rule

The downpipe looks like it was cobbled together out of drinking straws by a blind Chinese war orphan. I'll agree with you on that oneQUOTE]

that being said I've upgraded everything but the turbo & manifold.
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