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Old 04-13-2011, 01:13 PM   #21
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Holy **** dude. I read bits and pieces of the post. I hope all turns out well.
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A family member has epilepsy and has night seizures only, but that is if you believe him. He drives. At 120km he hit 2 cars head on, one full of children almost killing one of the parents. He says he hit black ice, i say no way because he accelerated further down the street from where he made his turn and says he hit black ice. I believe my family member lies about it so that they can continue to drive. I cant say i dont blame them for the fear of losing the ability to drive, but its not worth killing someone.
His very sports like euro car essentially had the engine rammed into the cabin, trans came through the floor and his face ate some of the dash. The car was a total right off and one of the worst accidents I have seen for a sports car.

My fam. member takes medication.

He has told me that they have changed his meds before and with a different batch he had seizures again. So first round may not work IF that is what you have.

I am in my mid 30s and I think I had a seizure last year. It would have been the first ever in my life or at least that I can remember. I believe the cause was a string of nightly cyclobenzaprine intakes. I take 2.5 mg and it strings me out, 5 mg if I dont want to function. I went about a week on it out of frustration from back pain and wanting to sleep. One night I woke thinking I just had a seizure. I dont recall why, or what made me think it, i just did. Then I went and looked up the pills and seen it could be a side affect. I have taken the pills since 2001 sporadically at best and this one time was the most consistent intake of them (sometimes i take 1 a week).

Perhaps its something you are eating, wash your fruits and veggies (pesticides etc), perhaps its an environmental deal. If you are only feeling that way at work, perhaps its the propane smell from tow motors?
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My ex GF had a siezure one time, she did a faceplant in to the gravel. It was bad.
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Were there any stiumulants involved? Caffeine? Tobacco? Energy Drinks? Workout supplements?

Was giving a long brief to my soldiers in theater - hadn't gone through much physical exertion in awhile. SPC in the front row had a dip in his front lip, and was using his empty monster can for a spitter. He had been using workout supplements (N.O. XPLODE) daily. When the siezure happened, he simply stood up from the muscle spasms before collapsing to the floor with the help of his buddies on the left and right sides. Took him well over a week to recover.

If you aren't someone who works out very often, and suddenly you try to "push the limits" of what you can do for an extended duration, you end up with muscle soreness. Sometimes when you workout, you're a little sore the next day, and you're in crazy pain the 2nd day afterwards (DOMS - Delayed onset muscle soreness).

As said in a post above, when you had your siezure, your brain was sending signals to contract every single muscle in your body, and it likely didn't stop until after all of your muscles had reached muscle failure of some sort. That's enough to make anyone's muscles painfully inoperable/weak.

Look on the bright side - all of your muscles will rebuild stronger than they were pre-seizure!
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Were there any stiumulants involved? Caffeine? Tobacco? Energy Drinks? Workout supplements?

Was giving a long brief to my soldiers in theater - hadn't gone through much physical exertion in awhile. SPC in the front row had a dip in his front lip, and was using his empty monster can for a spitter. He had been using workout supplements (N.O. XPLODE) daily. When the siezure happened, he simply stood up from the muscle spasms before collapsing to the floor with the help of his buddies on the left and right sides. Took him well over a week to recover.

If you aren't someone who works out very often, and suddenly you try to "push the limits" of what you can do for an extended duration, you end up with muscle soreness. Sometimes when you workout, you're a little sore the next day, and you're in crazy pain the 2nd day afterwards (DOMS - Delayed onset muscle soreness).

As said in a post above, when you had your siezure, your brain was sending signals to contract every single muscle in your body, and it likely didn't stop until after all of your muscles had reached muscle failure of some sort. That's enough to make anyone's muscles painfully inoperable/weak.

Look on the bright side - all of your muscles will rebuild stronger than they were pre-seizure!
Yes, I had coffee. Here is the rough timeline:

5:00 Lunch
~5:15 I had my lunch which consisted of a package of peanut M&Ms, A snickers bar, an apple and a large cup of coffee.
5:30 Back to work.
~5:45 I start to feel light headed
~7pm My memory starts again...I think. There was a lot of time that I wasn't near my phone so its tough to say. The paramedics must have arrived at around 6:10 or so.

It was a really busy day. On busy days I work very fast and hard without slowing down long enough to think about how i'm feeling. We're one of the busiest costcos in the world yet one of the smallest warehouses so that means I get to restock things often since we cant keep enough on the floor to meet the demand.
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75% of your lunch contained caffeine.

trend:
Peanut M+Ms --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Snickers --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Apple --> sugar
Coffee --> caffeine (did you add any sugar?)

I'm not a medical pro; but something to think about.

Consider that an average cup of coffee contains about 130mg of caffeine
A Starbucks brewed grande contains about 320mg
An average chocolate bar is rather insignificant at about 10mg, but up to 30mg
Then consider that other than caffeine, the rest of your lunch was mostly sugars
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While at work (costco). How embarassing. I remember feeling light headed, kinda like a low blood sugar type of thing, then I remember being on an ambulance. I guess I was conscious for all but like 3 minutes or so but if I wasn't completely catatonic I couldn't remember who or where I was. I've never blacked out an hour of my life like this even on the heaviest nights of drinking. Its really freaky to say the least. This is the first time anything like this has happened to me.

Hopefully this was just a one time thing. I go in for an EEG (brain scan) in 2 weeks to see if there is any sign of epilepsy going on upstairs. I had a cat scan and blood work done in the ER and they came back fine. As far as the doc could tell i'm the spittin image of health, aside from the seizure of course. I cant drive til the EEG and if it turns out i'm epileptic, i'll be done driving forever. Imagine that, i'll have to find a new hobby. Quite the bummer.

The scariest part is that i've had that same strange lightheaded feeling at work before and just wrote it off as low blood sugar or something. It always happens after I eat a crappy lunch and start working really hard. I'm a stocker so I have a very physical job.


I'm guessing it was exhauston for me. I had run 10 miles the day before, took a short nap, did work for work/grad school, went to Saturday Mas s at church. Then volunteered at a fundraiser for my GF job and did not get to her place till about 1 am and only had 3 hours of sleep before I passed out. I dont think I had had enough food for the physical effort I had put out.
Anyone else been down this road before?

Oh, even many days later i'm still more sore than i've ever been from working out before. Not just here and there either, EVERY single muscle in my body is as sore as they could possibly be. Really sucks.
I've not had a sezuire but I have passed out before. I was at my GF's place getting some thing to drink from the fridge. I swig some ginger ale and feel light headed. Next thing I know she is waking me up on the floor. I have blood pouring out of my nose (slammed it on something: chair?, counter?, floor? who knows), and mouth (chipped a tooth), and face (looked like I got in a fight). And that was not the worst of it but I dont need to go into full details.

MY gf took me to the ER. Dont remember to much. I took a few days off from work. Thankfully has not happend since.

I thank God that I stayed at my GF's that night as I'm scared to think what would have happed if I had been on my own.
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75% of your lunch contained caffeine.

trend:
Peanut M+Ms --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Snickers --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Apple --> sugar
Coffee --> caffeine (did you add any sugar?)

I'm not a medical pro; but something to think about.

Consider that an average cup of coffee contains about 130mg of caffeine
A Starbucks brewed grande contains about 320mg
An average chocolate bar is rather insignificant at about 10mg, but up to 30mg
Then consider that other than caffeine, the rest of your lunch was mostly sugars
I should note that this is not a typical lunch for me at all. However, it just so happened that I was running late that morning and didn't time to pack a lunch. I'm gluten intolerant so I cant eat just anything. Candy seemed better than nothing.

As for coffee, I drink a lot of coffee. 2-3 cups a day on a typical day.
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75% of your lunch contained caffeine.

trend:
Peanut M+Ms --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Snickers --> sugar + chocolate (caffeine)
Apple --> sugar
Coffee --> caffeine (did you add any sugar?)

I'm not a medical pro; but something to think about.

Consider that an average cup of coffee contains about 130mg of caffeine
A Starbucks brewed grande contains about 320mg
An average chocolate bar is rather insignificant at about 10mg, but up to 30mg
Then consider that other than caffeine, the rest of your lunch was mostly sugars
Not the best meal, that's for sure, but millions if not billions eat this poorly on a daily basis and have no seizures.

Anton, FWIW, I had a seizure at 4 or 5 years old, nothing since and I don't even waste time thinking about it. Wait for the EEG before coming to any assumptions.
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Based on your story, 99% chance that you had a seizure and didn't simply pass out etc...

Here's the good news:
1) Your normal head CT ruled out any weird brain malformation, tumor, stroke, etc...
2) If blood sugar check was fine and your ER bloodwork was fine you didn't have a seizure because of low blood sugar, dehydration, or other electrolyte imbalance so stop barking up that tree. It's been ruled out as it takes a rather large imbalance before you have a seizure and they tend not to spontaneously self correct.
3) It's not the caffeine, food, etc... It would take a shitload of coffee or other substance to give you a seizure assuming you aren't doing weird crap like huffing, drinking weed killer, etc... Or you forgot to mention that you just got off a drinking binge recently.
4) Even if you have a seizure disorder, once it's controlled and you don't have a seizure for some time, you are allowed to drive again. Granted you can't be a top gun fighter pilot and they might not let you drive a bus full of kids, but you can get a license.

Downside is that a little over half of people who have their first seizure in adulthood do end up with epilepsy, and even if they don't are at higher risk of a seizure, say after a night of binge drinking. Long story short, EEG shows increased risk of seizure = seizure medication, possibly forever. EEG is normal = possibly short term seizure medication as a precaution or until a repeat seizure (if ever). Only thing not in your favor is that you describe a funny sensation before your seizure which sounds a lot like a typical aura before a seizure which would make me wager that your EEG will not be normal. Either way, it's manageable with medication and not something untreatable so don't stress too much. Oh and don't read that crap on the interwebs about seizures in kids....it's a different ball game between adults and kids, our brains are done forming, theirs are not.
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Based on your story, 99% chance that you had a seizure and didn't simply pass out etc...

Here's the good news:
1) Your normal head CT ruled out any weird brain malformation, tumor, stroke, etc...
2) If blood sugar check was fine and your ER bloodwork was fine you didn't have a seizure because of low blood sugar, dehydration, or other electrolyte imbalance so stop barking up that tree. It's been ruled out as it takes a rather large imbalance before you have a seizure and they tend not to spontaneously self correct.
3) It's not the caffeine, food, etc... It would take a shitload of coffee or other substance to give you a seizure assuming you aren't doing weird crap like huffing, drinking weed killer, etc... Or you forgot to mention that you just got off a drinking binge recently.
4) Even if you have a seizure disorder, once it's controlled and you don't have a seizure for some time, you are allowed to drive again. Granted you can't be a top gun fighter pilot and they might not let you drive a bus full of kids, but you can get a license.

Downside is that a little over half of people who have their first seizure in adulthood do end up with epilepsy, and even if they don't are at higher risk of a seizure, say after a night of binge drinking. Long story short, EEG shows increased risk of seizure = seizure medication, possibly forever. EEG is normal = possibly short term seizure medication as a precaution or until a repeat seizure (if ever). Only thing not in your favor is that you describe a funny sensation before your seizure which sounds a lot like a typical aura before a seizure which would make me wager that your EEG will not be normal. Either way, it's manageable with medication and not something untreatable so don't stress too much. Oh and don't read that crap on the interwebs about seizures in kids....it's a different ball game between adults and kids, our brains are done forming, theirs are not.
Yea, thats what i've been thinking as well. Especially since i've had this feeling multiple times before the time that gave me the seizure. Also, I know that I didn't "just pass out". One of my coworkers watched me have a seizure and foam at the mouth so he turned me on my side so I wouldn't choke. I bit my tongue and lip a little bit as well.

It may be treatable and manageable but until now i've been a completely healthy person (aside from having lots of cavities). This likely means no more track days or other such activities like that. I guess we'll just see what happens.
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Ugh.

Sorry to hear about this. I've known a bunch of folks who have had similar seizure events, but never had a reoccurrence. The most interesting one was a guy I know who was a pilot for United on 737's. One night on a trip, he had a seizure in the shower. He told the company physician, and his EEG came up positive for epilepsy.

He was immediately put on a paid medical leave. He didn't have another seizure for 20 years. Not one! They just recalled him to active flight status last year, and he was bummed. He spent the last 20 years raising his kids and playing a ****-ton of golf. He had a pretty sweet gig, paid to not work!

Hope your story turns out as well!
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Went to my PCP yesterday and had a chat with him about all this. He said he feels fine about me driving right now as long as i'm not doing any long road trips or anything. Woohoo, got my wheels back.

Anyway, I just watched a girl have a seizure in my human sexuality class! The professor showed us a video of female genital mutilation and the girl fell out of her chair and started shaking on the floor! It is really freaky being on the other end of this. I jumped into action and asked her what her name was and if she knew where she was. I heard someone comment on what a dumb couple of questions that was. Turns out she is fine, she knew where she was and her name and didn't mess herself. The amplambse was on the way when I left. Looks like it wasn't nearly as bad as my seizure.
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Lol, person, place, time, and purpose. Pretty common questions, and a decent situation to use it. Some people just don't understand how someone could change or fry their brain with a seizure.

Glad you can drive! My real concern was actually whether or not you could still solder.
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Lol, person, place, time, and purpose. Pretty common questions, and a decent situation to use it. Some people just don't understand how someone could change or fry their brain with a seizure.

Glad you can drive! My real concern was actually whether or not you could still solder.
Yep lol. Currently waiting on Casey's mapdaddy to solder it in his ms3 =P
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Little Update:

Went and talked to the neurologist yesterday. To be honest, I didn't really like the guy. He seamed eager to put me on seizure meds but I told him I didn't want to take anything until we got more test results. He also said that caffeine and alcohol wont cause seizures, but my recreational pot smoking will cause seizures. He kept telling me that marijuana will definitely cause seizures. This all seems contrary to everything i've heard here and everywhere else, especially the alcohol and caffeine thing. I'm going to be taking the EEG, and having an MRI.

The thing that seemed to worry him more than anything was that he found a heart murmur. He asked me if I knew about it, I said no. He wondered why the two doctors I saw prior to my visit with him hadn't heard it. The 3rd test i'm going to have is some kind of heart monitor that I carry around for 48 hours that will data log my heart beat and see if that could be causing anything. He said if my heart was palpitating badly enough it could easily cause a seizure.

The overall impression I got of the guy was not great but i'm going to go with it and see what happens. I've quit drinking caffeine and alcohol, guess i'll quit everything else and see what happens.
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I've had heart palpitations...you feel them...weird **** (I get mine from random panic attacks).
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