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skidude 07-06-2009 10:01 AM

Stupid Questions
 
Another thread got me thinking

What is the stupidest, or least informed question you have been asked about your turbo either by a stupid ricer or by somebody who just doesn't know better?

I have been asked "what RPM my blow off kicks in" before by somebody who is somewhere between ricer and sadly doesn't know better. I just didn't know how to answer that.

the_man 07-06-2009 10:43 AM

Not turbo related, but I saw a Honda guy asking what a "long block" and "short block" were. He'd been on the site for over two years and had a nice big block of "reputation" squares.

Project84 07-06-2009 10:54 AM

I showed my friend the Miata a few weeks ago and he very anxiously said, "TWIN TURBO!?" and wanted to know why one of my turbos was all rusty and the other was nice silver. I had to explain to him that it was all one turbo; one side exhaust, one side intake.

msydnor 07-06-2009 12:22 PM

I had a kid ask me if I had a blowoff valve. He knew it was a turbo car so I was a little confused. I said, it's a turbo car so of course it has a blow off valve. His buddy said, "well, you could have a recirc" I just drove off rather than try explain be it VTA or recirc, it's still a BOV.

samnavy 07-06-2009 12:35 PM

I can't recall any dipshit ricer questions offhand, but I know about 1/2 dozen guys who drive BMW's and think they know everything about cars. I got into a discussion with a buddy with an '02 M5 about crank horsepower vs. wheel horsepower, and power to weight ratio... you could see his heart visibly break when I explained driveline loss and that only about 340 of his ponies actually counted.

Also:
"Dude, I know for a fact that my M5 weighs 5600lbs, and it does 155 before the engine shuts off".

He had read the GVWR sticker on the door and "knew for a fact" that the engine shut off and you had to turn the key to start it again if you accidentally hit 155.

I find this is very typical of BMW owners who have a Motor Trend subscription.

msydnor 07-06-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 427307)
I can't recall any dipshit ricer questions offhand, but I know about 1/2 dozen guys who drive BMW's and think they know everything about cars. I got into a discussion with a buddy with an '02 M5 about crank horsepower vs. wheel horsepower, and power to weight ratio... you could see his heart visibly break when I explained driveline loss and that only about 340 of his ponies actually counted.

Also:
"Dude, I know for a fact that my M5 weighs 5600lbs, and it does 155 before the engine shuts off".

He had read the GVWR sticker on the door and "knew for a fact" that the engine shut off and you had to turn the key to start it again if you accidentally hit 155.

I find this is very typical of BMW owners who have a Motor Trend subscription.


He thought the car actually shuts off????:giggle:

y8s 07-06-2009 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by msydnor (Post 427298)
I had a kid ask me if I had a blowoff valve. He knew it was a turbo car so I was a little confused. I said, it's a turbo car so of course it has a blow off valve. His buddy said, "well, you could have a recirc" I just drove off rather than try explain be it VTA or recirc, it's still a BOV.

I'm a little confused here. a turbo car can run just fine without any kind of blowoff valve. many factory turbo cars dont even come with them.

skidude 07-06-2009 02:21 PM

I thought all the factory ones just had recirc units... Learn something new every day!

msydnor 07-06-2009 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 427361)
I'm a little confused here. a turbo car can run just fine without any kind of blowoff valve. many factory turbo cars dont even come with them.


He knew I had one because he heard it. He thought a VTA BOV was a BOV, i.e you can here it making noise, and a recirc was someting different.

Qckslvr 07-06-2009 02:33 PM

Haven't had any stupid questions toward my cars. Have had lots of stupid questions at work though. There are lots of people out there that should not be allowed to know where there hood release is.

I had a customer buy a can of R12 freon (when it was legal to sell). We watch him open his hood, look around, and pull a cap off. He comes in a minute later and asks for a can opener so he can open the R12 and pour it into the reservoir!

Best statement I have heard by a customer so far "Can you help me? I tried to work on my own truck and now it's REALLY effed up"

Braineack 07-06-2009 02:44 PM

most questions directed towards me are about how stupid I am...such classics like:

"why did your driveshaft just fall off?"

"did you know your manifold is cracked?"

"why is your car smoking?"

elesjuan 07-06-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by msydnor (Post 427298)
I had a kid ask me if I had a blowoff valve. He knew it was a turbo car so I was a little confused. I said, it's a turbo car so of course it has a blow off valve. His buddy said, "well, you could have a recirc" I just drove off rather than try explain be it VTA or recirc, it's still a BOV.

Have a similar story after we got the Supercharger setup installed on my friends car. Cruising one night some stupid ricer in a rustbucket pile of trash Honda or some sorts attempted to race us. After we blew his fukkin doors off he seemed pretty surprised. Told us our car wasn't too bad, but we should think about boosting it.. After I told him, "It is" he looked shocked! "It IS?! I didn't hear a blowoff valve!?!?" At that point we just left him in our dust again, with our faces planted in our hands...


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 427307)
He had read the GVWR sticker on the door and "knew for a fact" that the engine shut off and you had to turn the key to start it again if you accidentally hit 155.

I find this is very typical of BMW owners who have a Motor Trend subscription.

I find it pretty amusing how many people read the GVWR stickers and have no fucking clue what they mean.. They're all completely convinced thats the curb weight of the car! :loser: Speaking of idiot BMW owners.. Yeah, theres one that lives 2 blocks away from me with some crappy ass junker E30 318 who thinks its the fastest shits on 4 wheels. He'll pull up to the top of the street and take off at WOT through 1st and 2nd gear, then pull into his driveway. I just take comfort in knowing those things are monumental turds, and his shits broke every other week anyway. :jerkit:

Newbsauce 07-06-2009 02:53 PM

Been asked where the button is for the turbo... Button still has not been found :(

Stein 07-06-2009 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 427380)
Been asked where the button is for the turbo... Button still has not been found :(

You should install one. Big red one like the S2000 start button.:laugh:

elesjuan 07-06-2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 427380)
Been asked where the button is for the turbo... Button still has not been found :(

Its right there!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/...4a2333.jpg?v=0

zoomin 07-06-2009 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 427375)
Have a similar story after we got the Supercharger setup installed on my friends car. Cruising one night some stupid ricer in a rustbucket pile of trash Honda or some sorts attempted to race us. After we blew his fukkin doors off he seemed pretty surprised. Told us our car wasn't too bad, but we should think about boosting it.. After I told him, "It is" he looked shocked! "It IS?! I didn't hear a blowoff valve!?!?" At that point we just left him in our dust again, with our faces planted in our hands...



I find it pretty amusing how many people read the GVWR stickers and have no fucking clue what they mean.. They're all completely convinced thats the curb weight of the car! :loser: Speaking of idiot BMW owners.. Yeah, theres one that lives 2 blocks away from me with some crappy ass junker E30 318 who thinks its the fastest shits on 4 wheels. He'll pull up to the top of the street and take off at WOT through 1st and 2nd gear, then pull into his driveway. I just take comfort in knowing those things are monumental turds, and his shits broke every other week anyway. :jerkit:

At the opposite end of the spectrum I knew a guy that did a full e36 M3 swap into his 318ti and it was pretty insane.

elesjuan 07-06-2009 03:17 PM

How could I forget this one! Best ever!

http://www.methodshop.com/gadgets/re...urbo-boost.jpg


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 427390)
At the opposite end of the spectrum I knew a guy that did a full e36 M3 swap into his 318ti and it was pretty insane.

This dudes 17 and I don't think even has a job.. Kinda doubt that'll ever happen. Its more likely I'll have a turbo miata. :giggle:

BradC 07-06-2009 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by msydnor (Post 427365)
He knew I had one because he heard it. He thought a VTA BOV was a BOV, i.e you can here it making noise, and a recirc was someting different.

Many OEMs call them a bypass valve (BPV).

cueball1 07-06-2009 03:22 PM

"What supercharger kit is that?" while looking at my BEGI s4 turbo system.

y8s 07-06-2009 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 427394)
"What supercharger kit is that?" while looking at my BEGI s4 turbo system.

technically, it is a supercharger. a supercharger is anything that forces air into the engine. a turbocharger is just an exhaust driven supercharger.

and it's also way more awesome.

1redcanuck 07-06-2009 03:39 PM

My favs are "Oh man, why didn't you put in a Supercharger?"
and "Ya but a Turbo only kicks in once!"

cueball1 07-06-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 427398)
technically, it is a supercharger. a supercharger is anything that forces air into the engine. a turbocharger is just an exhaust driven supercharger.


Technical Schmech-nical. A turbo's a turbo and a supercharger's a big turd. :giggle:


I've gotten the "you should put in a supercharger" comments too.

AlexO35 07-06-2009 05:31 PM

My favorite was someone talking about my setup with someone else. Explained in detail how the turbo manifold was equal length to maximize torque.... Its the biggest POS log ever to be posted here....

Also if reference to the same mani "Where'd you buy that?" Really? You looked at that POS and thought it was manufactured that way?!?

--Alex

r808 07-06-2009 11:10 PM

A guy I used to work with had a late 70s Vette. He thought it was around 1900 lbs because of the GVWR sticker. He refused to believe me when I told it him it was probably more like 3000 lbs.

Same job, different retard with a late 70s Vette, wanted to put twin turbos and a supercharger on his ride. If I remember right he took the carb. and intake manifold off for whatever reason and it never did run again. He sold it non running a couple of years later for a few hundred bucks. I won't mention the fine grit sandpaper buff job he attempted on the paint job.


Ever see those guys on youtube with early 70s hotrods with two superchargers stacked on top of each other? I find this to be a sad display of grown men with lots of money literally ricing out an otherwise awesome car.

bayside blue 07-07-2009 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 427257)
I showed my friend the Miata a few weeks ago and he very anxiously said, "TWIN TURBO!?" and wanted to know why one of my turbos was all rusty and the other was nice silver. I had to explain to him that it was all one turbo; one side exhaust, one side intake.

technicly all turbos are "twin turbo" since there are 2 turbines that make up one unit

Project84 07-07-2009 11:29 AM

technically < conventionally

go be an ---- retentive snob somewhere else.

buffon01 07-07-2009 11:42 AM

I told one of my ex-gf's cousin that I plan on turbocharging my car, so he laughed and then asked me "where are you gonna fit that??". I then showed him the engine bay and he told me I would have to move the engine because it wasnt transversal like a honda. I had a blank stare then this happened :crx:

skidude 07-07-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 427643)
I told one of my ex-gf's cousin that I plan on turbocharging my car, so he laughed and then asked me "where are you gonna fit that??". I then showed him the engine bay and he told me I would have to move the engine because it wasnt transversal like a honda. I had a blank stare then this happened :crx:

Well everybody knows that rwd is is heavier and is therefore just for ricers and noobs.

the_man 07-07-2009 01:09 PM

I once accepted the "fact" that FWD was better than RWD in the rain/snow/whatever. Weight over the drive wheels and all that. Then, I actually drove some FWD cars in the rain/snow/whatever after driving pretty much only RWD for a couple years. Holy crap, FWD blows in every possible way. Especially modern cars, as you try to take off, the rear suspension compresses and all the weight that WAS over the drive wheels suddenly transfers off of them and away you don't go. Stupid.

As far as questions I've seen lately, anything that starts with some variation of "I always top off my [insert fluid here], but [insert issue here] irritates me to no end. Typically this is a coolant leak, which is ignored, and then results in catastrophic failure at some point when whatever hose, fitting, connection or section of the cooling system that was slowly leaking finally gives way completely. I'm convinced the reason for this ignorance is the fact that shops say they "top off your fluids" when they do an oil change, pretty much universally, now. For some reason people think it's "normal" to lose fluids. It's not normal. It indicates a problem, which should be identified and corrected. Ugh.

buffon01 07-07-2009 01:22 PM

Oh btw... that same guy also told me my car sucked because it wasnt V-TECH :hustler:. My blank stare was followed with this :laugh:

messiahx 07-07-2009 02:13 PM

I've had the "so where's the button to activate the turbo?" and the same person point at the intake manifold and ask if that was a turbo...both of these from another miata owner. :facepalm:

buffon01 07-07-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by messiahx (Post 427678)
I've had the "so where's the button to activate the turbo?" and the same person point at the intake manifold and ask if that was a turbo...both of these from another miata owner. :facepalm:

lol Ive showed the turbo to some of my friends and they ask me... "whats that??"

Vashthestampede 07-07-2009 02:39 PM

I had a guy at a gas station once ask me if the IC was real or for looks. I told him it was real as he was getting down on the ground to check for himself.

Today someone asked me if I "put in new heads" while he was standing in front of the motor looking right at it.

Some people are fucking clueless. I usually try and have educated conversations with people when it comes to cars. But sometimes the shit people blab about is more fun to listen to than to correct them. :laugh:

skidude 07-07-2009 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 427690)
Today someone asked me if I "put in new heads" while he was standing in front of the motor looking right at it.

Yeah... I replaced all three just last week!

buffon01 07-07-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Vashthestampede (Post 427690)
I had a guy at a gas station once ask me if the IC was real or for looks. I told him it was real as he was getting down on the ground to check for himself.


IC for looks?? I thought I had seen it all with that whistle that makes the car sound like it has a blow off valve, I guess not :facepalm:

BTW that will make a great ricey combo

y8s 07-07-2009 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by skidude (Post 427693)
Yeah... I replaced all three just last week!

two in the car and one in his wife!


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