Originally Posted by apariah
(Post 482459)
This I completely agree with your post! Not only could private companies do it cheaper and probably better, I'm sure this would also create some nice paying jobs as well.
EDIT: completely agree with the fact that the private sector should get into space travel....just sayin though. |
Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
(Post 482504)
Yea cuz NASA only pays minimum wage :rolleyes:
EDIT: completely agree with the fact that the private sector should get into space travel....just sayin though. |
I would have thought that was common sense.
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 482506)
More jobs than NASA could provide I bet.
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Originally Posted by apariah
(Post 482577)
I would have thought that was common sense.
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Originally Posted by rccote
(Post 482390)
Everyone knows that the landing was a fake. And the moon mirrors and rocks? Put there by scientists to fool us just like the fossils.
Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
(Post 482391)
Get it right guy.
Wrong and wrong Everyone knows it was Lord Xenu idiots |
I expected no less from you guys.
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 482742)
I expected no less from you guys.
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 482465)
I mean, look at Paul Allen and SpaceShipOne. He went to "space" with a total development cost of only $25 million.
There are already examples of commercial space ventures that are not run by NASA. The commercial telecommunications satellite industry is one. BTW some data from the LCROSS impact. More confirmation of water on the moon. I agree, this is a big deal. LCROSS Finds Water On Moon Man went to the moon, period. To say otherwise is to unjustly belittle the monumental achievements of some great Scientists and Engineers. |
Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 483110)
SpaceShipOne and Virgin Galactic is NOT the same thing as NASA. Going straight up and down is NOT the same thing as going into LEO. Not even close.
There are already examples of commercial space ventures that are not run by NASA. The commercial telecommunications satellite industry is one. BTW some data from the LCROSS impact. More confirmation of water on the moon. I agree, this is a big deal. LCROSS Finds Water On Moon Man went to the moon, period. To say otherwise is to unjustly belittle the monumental achievements of some great Scientists and Engineers. |
Well I do not think X-15 and SpaceShipOne is a good analogy either. They are two completely different missions. Plus the X-15 was ground breaking. No one had gone nearly that fast or that high before. Paul Allen had a lot of existing knowledge to leverage, not to mention a huge improvement in things like computer modeling and advanced materials that became available since the X-15 mission. Plus SpaceShipOne does not reach the same speeds.
It is like saying that the old room-sized vacuum tube computer builders, or the Cray designers, were inefficient and overpriced because those computers were much more expensive to develop than a modern desktop computer. That is not strictly a great analogy though, since the cost of production development is spread over many units. But you get my point. Anyway I am not saying the Government is as efficient as private industry. But, that is not the sole reason for the difference in development cost. The bigger driver by far is the differences in what is achieved. |
Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 483164)
Well I do not think X-15 and SpaceShipOne is a good analogy either. They are two completely different missions. Plus the X-15 was ground breaking. No one had gone nearly that fast or that high before. Paul Allen had a lot of existing knowledge to leverage, not to mention a huge improvement in things like computer modeling and advanced materials that became available since the X-15 mission. Plus SpaceShipOne does not reach the same speeds.
It is like saying that the old room-sized vacuum tube computer builders, or the Cray designers, were inefficient and overpriced because those computers were much more expensive to develop than a modern desktop computer. That is not strictly a great analogy though, since the cost of production development is spread over many units. But you get my point. Anyway I am not saying the Government is as efficient as private industry. But, that is not the sole reason for the difference in development cost. The bigger driver by far is the differences in what is achieved. Private > Government That's all I was trying to say. But still, what Allen did with $25 million is pretty impressive. Just think if we had many teams like that on board with our space program. Get some fresh minds in there that aren't tied down by the government. |
I'm wondering what the Air Force's UAV program will get into in the next 20 years. Space travel, flying on the moon's surface, who knows. They probly already have lol.
I'm in line for AF's UAV program, getting kind of impatient though lol. Going in as an enlistee and everyone has it on their list now. |
Not gonna be doing much space travel with propellers ;)
I have a friend that was a UAV pilot last I heard. haven't seen him in over a year though. Probably a pretty fun place to be. |
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 483169)
Just think if we had many teams like that on board with our space program. Get some fresh minds in there that aren't tied down by the government.
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Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 483213)
Well we already do. Though NASA's name goes on the Missions, a lot of the high-end cutting-edge development work for these Missions is done by Scientists and Engineers working as contractors outside of NASA. Take SpaceX for example; they are developing lower-cost launch vehicles. Even though NASA is one of their potential clients, they are an outside company, funded by private money, developing a new product for space use.
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Originally Posted by flier129
(Post 483172)
I'm in line for AF's UAV program, getting kind of impatient though lol. Going in as an enlistee and everyone has it on their list now.
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Yeah in fact several years ago I helped develop one of the UAVs for the Army. No shit.
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An interesting article pertaining to commercial (private) sector development of manned launch services.
NASA Industry Begin Discussions on Commercial Crew Development Dollars | SpaceNews.com |
An example of small guy private sector space engineering
NASA 'glove challenge' set for Thursday |
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