thinking of buying a vw beetle - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-15-2006, 03:40 AM   #1
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default thinking of buying a vw beetle

yup, thats right, I want to buy a vw beetle sometime between now and next summer. I plan to sell my black miata late next spring when its proper to sell a convertable, provided my red one is reliable for daily driving at that point. I have already begun to scope the beetle scene a little bit to figure out what i can expect as far as pricing, condition, and what options are available. Also I have looked a bit into the changes year by year as well.

I really liked this picture and would be most inclined to go for a black beetle.

Name:  VW_Beetle_1500.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  26.3 KB
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 03:58 AM   #2
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SLC, Utah
Posts: 1,591
Total Cats: 0
Default

Beetle with a Porsche engine swap....
zoom2zoom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 04:22 AM   #3
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,980
Total Cats: 14
Default

I always liked the looks and the customization you could do to them BUT they aren't fun to drive (for me).
rmcelwee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 08:13 AM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 85
Total Cats: 0
Default

Rear engine rear wheel drive... Slap a turbo porsche motor in and have some serious fun!
t25miata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 10:15 AM   #5
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hartville, OH
Posts: 174
Total Cats: 0
Default

i have done vws for years. restored a few. made a few fast. i'm somewhat of a vw expert, but its hard to find any good ones left to restore here in the rust belt. i had to go south for the last one and even it had rome rust. my brother may be willing to part with his 76 std bug for the right price(the condition is ****) the best thing about bugs is its cheap to make a beetle to run 12s quarters.
left field is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 10:58 AM   #6
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,038
Total Cats: 407
Default

porsche engine swap? naw, build up the VW motor... they're stronger.

my dad had a 150hp (dual dellortos, etc) 64 flat-window 'vert when I was in high school. he did a 10 ft restoration job. car looked great (from 10 ft). man that thing was a hoot. cornered like it was on ... well... what's the opposite of rails??

something like this:
y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 11:22 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NAS Oceana/VA
Posts: 759
Total Cats: 0
Default

Screw the porsche engine! Throw in a Honda B16!

getsidewaysd1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 12:27 PM   #8
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

I dont think finding one in good condition will be a problem here in california. Theres a ton of people who work on, fix up, and restore the bug around here. Not looking for anything fast or anything with great handling because I would just be fooling myself ... thats what the turbo miata will be for. I just want a cool cruiser with some character and decent gas mileage.


getsideways ... wow that looks like a wheelie machine!

I am just gonna keep my eye on the classifieds on thesamba.com over the next 6 months and wait for the right one to come along. In fact, there is a yellow one owned by a friend of mine (original owner) who may be looking to part with theirs with only like 150k on the clock and in pretty nice condition.
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 02:57 PM   #9
I'm Miserable!
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: sandiego, CA
Posts: 332
Total Cats: 0
Default

i have a 71 with 103k on it and im about to paint it primer black it is red with no rust. im looking at selling it since i cant afford my 3 cars. gunna stick with my 2 mazda powered rides right now. im looking for 1500 it is currently registered and is smog exempt. let me know if your interested..... the only thing it needs is a battery and an oil change and i would do that and the valves adjusted also before i sell it, let me know if your at all interested..... been needing to sell this but have been sitting on it since im a true bug lover and my wife keeps telling me i need to sell it......
drftem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 02:58 PM   #10
Elite Member
 
Philip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,270
Total Cats: -4
Default

I always wondered why you couldn't buy a mexican beetle and buy a rust bucket with a VIN and title and swappie swappie the two.
Philip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 04:09 PM   #11
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Delicious and Moist.
Posts: 26,328
Total Cats: 1,926
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip View Post
I always wondered why you couldn't buy a mexican beetle and buy a rust bucket with a VIN and title and swappie swappie the two.
There used to be a company that did exactly that. Can't rememebr the name, but if they're still in business they probably still advertize in the back of VW Trends.

This was when the Beetle was still in current production in Mexico. Basically, they imported all the parts from a brand-new MexiBeetle except the tunnel itself, then took a US-titled pan, and swapped everything onto it. Body, suspension, steering, engine, tranny, interior, electricals, everything was 100% brand new except the pan itself, which they did a good job cleaning up and restoring.

I suppose you could probably do this yourself if you were really willing to put in the time. To get the car across into the US you'd probably have to go down there and at the very least remove the engine so that the car could be shipped across as parts, rather than as a complete vehicle. Definately want to consult an attorney familiar with US customs and import regulations first.
Joe Perez is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 04:16 PM   #12
Elite Member
 
Philip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,270
Total Cats: -4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
There used to be a company that did exactly that. Can't rememebr the name, but if they're still in business they probably still advertize in the back of VW Trends.

This was when the Beetle was still in current production in Mexico. Basically, they imported all the parts from a brand-new MexiBeetle except the tunnel itself, then took a US-titled pan, and swapped everything onto it. Body, suspension, steering, engine, tranny, interior, electricals, everything was 100% brand new except the pan itself, which they did a good job cleaning up and restoring.

I suppose you could probably do this yourself if you were really willing to put in the time. To get the car across into the US you'd probably have to go down there and at the very least remove the engine so that the car could be shipped across as parts, rather than as a complete vehicle. Definately want to consult an attorney familiar with US customs and import regulations first.
You could just as easily do that and use a repro pan, then register it as a kit or homebuilt
Philip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2006, 04:59 PM   #13
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

Hey, i already found one that would suit me perfectly. Not in the market quite yet, but it seems theres more beetles floating around than miatas.

What I like about this one is the fact that it has a reliable engine and transmission with a bit of power upgrades. sounds like it needs a bit of interior work and paint. Depending on the condition of the interior it sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. I could buy it now but i would have nowhere to park it ... unless my parents were willing to let me park a vehicle at their place lol.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=393777
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 12:07 AM   #14
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

I had a 2165cc 65 when I was in high school. Slammed too.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 12:46 AM   #15
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Delicious and Moist.
Posts: 26,328
Total Cats: 1,926
Default

akaryrye- that looks like a good vehicle to start with. The '71 and later models are in my opinion the most civilized, since they have both a 4 CV independant rear suspension, and a ball-joint front suspension.
Joe Perez is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 12:57 AM   #16
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 898
Total Cats: 0
Default

The Beetle really is fun to drive, just not in the fast around the road course kind a way. My dad has a couple of vanagons with yearly rebuilt motors, but the 1800cc strokers are sweet. Keep it stock looking but give it some ***** and a rockin retro stereo. Maybe I need to get one...
rotaryjunky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 01:27 AM   #17
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SLC, Utah
Posts: 1,591
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akaryrye View Post
Hey, i already found one that would suit me perfectly. Not in the market quite yet, but it seems theres more beetles floating around than miatas.

What I like about this one is the fact that it has a reliable engine and transmission with a bit of power upgrades. sounds like it needs a bit of interior work and paint. Depending on the condition of the interior it sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. I could buy it now but i would have nowhere to park it ... unless my parents were willing to let me park a vehicle at their place lol.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=393777
sounds like a pretty sweet car. I love how clean older cars seem to be in Cali and Texas.
zoom2zoom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 03:36 AM   #18
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Perez View Post
akaryrye- that looks like a good vehicle to start with. The '71 and later models are in my opinion the most civilized, since they have both a 4 CV independant rear suspension, and a ball-joint front suspension.
Ok, i was not aware of that. I only knew that super beetles had independant front suspension and that they have a nicer ride as a result. So you are saying that all beetles (standard and super) 71' and up have IRS and that the super beetles have full Indepant suspension? I was sort of interested in the super beetle for that reason and the fact that theres a lot more trunk space as well. Then I found out that they are about 150 - 200 lbs heavier which i do not want. Looks like i still have a ways to go before i can make an informed purchase.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rotaryjunky View Post
The Beetle really is fun to drive, just not in the fast around the road course kind a way. My dad has a couple of vanagons with yearly rebuilt motors, but the 1800cc strokers are sweet. Keep it stock looking but give it some ***** and a rockin retro stereo. Maybe I need to get one...
Exactly! I want a sick car to cruise in that turns heads but not in a "hey that must be a fast car" sort of way that the miata seems to elicit, especially from the ricers, little kids, and most mexicans ( ? )
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 08:56 AM   #19
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: VT
Posts: 939
Total Cats: 0
Default

There was a fellow at the last autocross that had a Subaru 2.5 in his 914, I would go that route if I was considering a swap.
Jefe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2006, 11:17 AM   #20
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,038
Total Cats: 407
Default

the 914-six motors are a hoot if you can find them. but like jefe suggests, a subie flat something would be easy to wedge in.
y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 59 12-15-2017 09:00 PM
Need help - Stock Balancer and Fastforward overlay pulleys Frank_and_Beans Supercharger Discussion 13 09-12-2016 09:17 PM
OTS Bilstein to motorsports ASN conversion stoves Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 5 04-21-2016 04:00 PM
My solution for Oiltemp and Oilpressure input into Megasuirt (MS3) Zaphod MEGAsquirt 41 01-24-2016 01:25 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:54 AM.