Thinking of getting a Subaru...
07-22-2010, 10:34 PM
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There is no way in hell you're finding any sort of decent STi for under 10k. If that were possible I'd have one as my "other" car right now. They're 12k for a high mileage beat up one or salvage title. All else is 15+ at least.
A WRX wagon really isn't hard to find unabused.
Its like the "other" wrx that not very many stupid young punk kids prefer. Same everything, just a tiny bit more weight and its in the back helping the car rotate a bit better than the WRX when cornering.
If you're into wagons than you'll find a low mileage clean and well taken care of WRX with not much problems. At least around here. Not sure what kinda demand you have in your area.
A WRX wagon really isn't hard to find unabused.
Its like the "other" wrx that not very many stupid young punk kids prefer. Same everything, just a tiny bit more weight and its in the back helping the car rotate a bit better than the WRX when cornering.
If you're into wagons than you'll find a low mileage clean and well taken care of WRX with not much problems. At least around here. Not sure what kinda demand you have in your area.
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07-22-2010, 11:00 PM
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That is pretty much what I'm going for. Seems like there is a good selection for around that price range. Definitely not trying to find an STI around that price lol.
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07-22-2010, 11:13 PM
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There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
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07-22-2010, 11:50 PM
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There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
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07-23-2010, 12:31 AM
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****, I would drive a forester xt. Wait, I do drive a forester xt. Lighter than an STi, moddable, hauls ****, about as common as a wrx wagon blah blah blah. Expect to pay 7-10K though for one with 100K miles. Can put sti shock on it for a good 2" drop. Yay.
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07-23-2010, 12:38 AM
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There was a GRM article a few months ago (6ish I think) about looking at the Saab 9-3x as an alternative. It's like the WRX wagon is to the sedan, usually ignored and well maintained. If you can stand the different looks to it, it could be a much better choice. It's nothing but a re badged Subaru as far as I know.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
Also, is there a reason you're ignoring the Evo? I'm not going to go look up used prices, and they may be much higher, but something to look at.
3210 lbs.
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3,263lbs
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07-23-2010, 01:09 AM
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18psi, I know you know you know your Subaru ****, and I'll probably be asking you for tuning advice soon for my 08.
But here is my anecdotal experience with an 02 WRX. I bought it new in feb of 02, I did the stoptech stage II brake kit, other than that it was kept stock. It's life was lived consistently at redline, I sold it 6 years later with 111k miles on it. It never, not once, gave me a problem. I know it wasn't modded, I only dragged it a couple of times. It was a canyon basher that was always rev matched.
I guess my point is I've never loved any car, more than my 02 WRX, and it made me sad to see you bash them. /Rant.
But here is my anecdotal experience with an 02 WRX. I bought it new in feb of 02, I did the stoptech stage II brake kit, other than that it was kept stock. It's life was lived consistently at redline, I sold it 6 years later with 111k miles on it. It never, not once, gave me a problem. I know it wasn't modded, I only dragged it a couple of times. It was a canyon basher that was always rev matched.
I guess my point is I've never loved any car, more than my 02 WRX, and it made me sad to see you bash them. /Rant.
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07-23-2010, 01:20 AM
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LET ME CLARIFY:
I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.
I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol
1st model year, of course its expected.
I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes
Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8
I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.
I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol
1st model year, of course its expected.
I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes
Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8
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07-23-2010, 01:57 AM
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Suck a dick. Quit whoring wikipedia.
3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti
per http://www.carfolio.com
Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.
3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti
per http://www.carfolio.com
Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.
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07-23-2010, 04:05 AM
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Isn't that EXACTLY what our cars are and what we do with them?
A miata is so slow stock a damn prius will give it a run for its money. And handling is NOT all that great on stock shocks and stock tires.
So I honestly don't know where you're getting that from.
for roughly 500 bux (tbe+3port solenoid+tune which is free) my 05 ran 13.2@101. and that's the 2.0L version. with that much in an 06+ well tuned and well driven you're looking at GOBS more torque due to .5L increase and avcs
A miata is so slow stock a damn prius will give it a run for its money. And handling is NOT all that great on stock shocks and stock tires.
So I honestly don't know where you're getting that from.
for roughly 500 bux (tbe+3port solenoid+tune which is free) my 05 ran 13.2@101. and that's the 2.0L version. with that much in an 06+ well tuned and well driven you're looking at GOBS more torque due to .5L increase and avcs
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07-23-2010, 09:42 AM
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Suck a dick. Quit whoring wikipedia.
3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti
per http://www.carfolio.com
Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.
3060 lbs fxt
3175 lbs sti
per http://www.carfolio.com
Nyways 100lbs difference between them. If I could have a miata station wagon that weighed 2400lbs, I would. Have it.
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X XS XS PREMIUM XT TURBO XT TURBO PREMIUM
3,135 3,140 3,175 3,250 3,300
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07-23-2010, 05:23 PM
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the 1981-1984 300D turbo is pretty decent once you get past the turbo lag. Be sure to have a mity-vac to troubleshoot vacuum problems or your engine won't turn off and your transmission will shift so hard it will take your fillings out.
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07-23-2010, 05:33 PM
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LET ME CLARIFY:
I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.
I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol
1st model year, of course its expected.
I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes
Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8
I wasn't specific enough and I apologize: SOME of the 02's are a nightmare. Specifically the earlier ones.
I've seen a bunch of well running ones. But the few I've seen with problems had LOTS of problems. Researching the matter a little deeper I found out that there are a lot of people out there with "lemon" 02's. Dealerships did a good job of NOT BROADCASTING it either lol
1st model year, of course its expected.
I'm glad yours was great. I too love the bug eyes
Though my all time favorite to this day is the 22B gc8
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07-23-2010, 05:52 PM
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It's the easiest car I've ever worked on by far. The 124's drive great, but they are much more complicated and the engines are not as bulletproof.
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07-23-2010, 05:54 PM
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My 
2 door impreza FTMFW. If you like tinkering you can throw a turbo on the 2.2l. I did that to my '97 outback sport (impreza wagon). Pretty awesome car, perfect daily driver. Or WRX swaps are very common and can be done when you get the funds.
My bone stock 2.5l turbo with 85k miles had a cracked exhaust valve. The PCV system is dumb IMHO.
2 door impreza FTMFW. If you like tinkering you can throw a turbo on the 2.2l. I did that to my '97 outback sport (impreza wagon). Pretty awesome car, perfect daily driver. Or WRX swaps are very common and can be done when you get the funds.
My bone stock 2.5l turbo with 85k miles had a cracked exhaust valve. The PCV system is dumb IMHO.
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07-23-2010, 05:55 PM
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The best tinker car would be the W123 240D with a manual transmission. If you get the post '81 you'll get a whopping 67HP.
It's the easiest car I've ever worked on by far. The 124's drive great, but they are much more complicated and the engines are not as bulletproof.
It's the easiest car I've ever worked on by far. The 124's drive great, but they are much more complicated and the engines are not as bulletproof.
But this isn't too bad.
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