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Old 01-07-2008, 03:52 PM   #21
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right, but look at the amount of blu ray discs sold, studios that are bluray exclusive, and the number of bluray players including ps3's and the amount of hddvd players (also dont forget all xboxs dont come with hddvd drives)

And look at the market share of whats selling. PS I think Blu had 80% of this market this holiday
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #22
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HD DVD is gonna win. why? Compare how many Xboxes have sold VS PS3's? Whos the majority that get HD movies? Console owners.
HD DVD won't win. And Microsoft don't want it to win either.
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MS just came about with HDdvd to not let bluray take market share. Now with VOD they dont care about HDdvd.

PS. PS3 will get netflix.
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Most likely what Microsoft will reveal at some point is the entire NetFlix calogue integrated into Xbox Live (judging by those Microsoft - NetFlix thingies which happened a while ago). Then all one would need to watch a movie at home is turn on their X360 ...
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Maybe in your experience this is the case. Aren't you an installer of high end audio video equiment? I don't know anyone that invested anything in DVD-A. Granted that's my limited experience. I'm just suggesting that maybe your clients aren't typical.

How many here own anything in DVD-A besides Ben?
I don't install; I design. I know plenty of folks who are into audio that have extensive sacd and dvd-a collections. Are my clients typical median level people? No, they're usually wealthier and/or better educated. They're the early adopters. They're the folks who can make or break well before the mainstream gets an opportunity to play with, let alone afford, the new stuff.

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I agree with Loki, people want to own ... not subscribe. Hell music for "free" has been around for nearly 10 years, people still buy CDs. Even with the wildly popular iPod, which is basically begging you to download music.
check your facts
http://www.reuters.com/article/music...32937520080104
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/n...les-main_x.htm
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...iLhWAD8TUP10O0
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:03 PM   #26
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Blu-ray is the better format and thankfully has a much sturdier future than HD DVD. HD DVD isn't gonna ever "lose", but buying a HD DVD only player right now would be really dumb.
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What is the chairman and CEO of NetFlix doing at the Microsoft board of directors?

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...astingsPR.mspx





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check your facts
Ben just like today there is digital downloads and hard media, both will exist when Video downloads come around. BOTH, so we will have digital and bluray
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I got a HD DVD toshiba for chirstmas. The only HD movie i have watched was Hot Fuzz and didn't notice a difference. But it makes my standard DVD's look SICK compared to my progressive scan Sony DVD player. I didn't think it was possible but whatever.

PS I hinted real bad for a blu ray player
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What is the chairman and CEO of NetFlix doing at the Microsoft board of directors?

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...astingsPR.mspx
I dont know what was Intel doing on OLPC....
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I'm not spending a dime on content in either format until there is a clear champion.
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I don't install; I design. I know plenty of folks who are into audio that have extensive sacd and dvd-a collections. Are my clients typical median level people? No, they're usually wealthier and/or better educated. They're the early adopters. They're the folks who can make or break well before the mainstream gets an opportunity to play with, let alone afford, the new stuff.

check your facts
http://www.reuters.com/article/music...32937520080104
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/n...les-main_x.htm
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...iLhWAD8TUP10O0
I think you are naive if you think that those statistics tell the entire story. Certainly digital downloads are big news, but there is a LONG way to go before downloaded music eclipses CD sales. It'll happen eventually, just not as quickly as some would like us to believe. 25 years of being the defacto standard gives CD technology a lot of momentum.

Anyway, that's not the point.
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I'm not saying it's happening tomorrow. But it is going to happen. Well within our lifetime. Just watch what happens as VOD becomes more viable.

As for the topic of the thread, I answered it many posts ago.
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blockbuster also decided to carry only blu-ray in a heap of its stores.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/06/17...-the-war-over/
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And target too Blu Ray only
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Sony did? I didnt see that anywhere. I remember when they said that about MS and paramount, but again no proof.

As for the quality of the movie ins't it the same source just different media?
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/04...rner-went-blu/

heres the rumor article
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Oh ok so the same BS thats always going around
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in case anyone decided on Blu Ray this week, Amazon is still having their BOGO Blu Ray sale (only 96 titles tho)

i'm waiting for my ps3 to come in...
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Oh ok so the same BS thats always going around
Yeah, but there has to be some lobbying involved
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Yeah, but there has to be some lobbying involved
Yeah but 500 million now? Why not a year ago?
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