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Old 09-04-2009, 10:16 PM   #21
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Screw the haters, they are really just jealous. I think the xb is pretty cool, but then I want a Honda Element for an OTM. Great for carrying SCUBA gear, bicycles, or the dogs.
Yep, totally jealous of being 20 years old, on food stamps, with a knocked up girlfriend and a $7000 car loan. I'm shaking in my government-issued boots with envy.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:24 PM   #22
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:52 PM   #24
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I just don't understand why he posted this thread and didn't think that it would be ~3 pages of him getting bashed before it dies off.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #25
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Yep, totally jealous of being 20 years old, on food stamps, with a knocked up girlfriend and a $7000 car loan. I'm shaking in my government-issued boots with envy.
So is ytour issue with the vehicle or the person? sounds like the person.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:08 AM   #26
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I'll seriously never understand what people see in those ugly crappy *** scion things.. any of them!

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No, its built for shriveled up old people. The only people I see in Scions are old people.

Around here the only people I see driving scions look like this:

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Old 09-05-2009, 04:11 PM   #27
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No I'm still getting rid of the other miata. I ultimately decided to get rid of both...I can't afford the have a daily and a fun car...at least for now. Maybe one day after I finish school and get a real job. The car is a 5spd so it's all good. It's not exactly the best looking car out there but it will work. The point of selling both miata's is so I owe barely anything on the loan when all is said and done.

The one thing I like about the car is it very European(or asian), at least on the inside. I just like the smaller, economical cars for some reason. When deciding on a car a lot of things went into consideration but gas mileage was really at the top. With an 80+ mile commute daily I can't afford to be getting 18mpg with an old jeep or something of that nature.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:20 PM   #28
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...I like about the car is it very European(or asian)...
Because, you know.

Europe, Asia. Same thing.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:27 PM   #29
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Because, you know.

Europe, Asia. Same thing.
It's called Eurasia derrrr
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:45 AM   #30
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What the **** is wrong with you? Didn't we slap you around enough already about making stupid financial decisions? Just die and leave the loan to your child already.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:28 AM   #31
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What, weren't there any Pontiac Azteks available in your area?

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Old 09-08-2009, 09:51 AM   #33
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Have fun replaceing windshields.....have fun replacing those 18" tires. In terms of build quality, the xB isn't some marvel of long-lasting quality either. Also, $10k for a car that sold for $13k new? Umm OK.

So when you sell the other car, does that mean you'll stop posting on here?
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:13 AM   #34
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So when you sell the other car, does that mean you'll stop posting on here?
This could be the only possible positive outcome to this toaster purchase thread.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:20 AM   #35
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In for some badass like myself railing your girlfriend.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:50 PM   #36
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Dave Ramsey (and simple math) have proven that gas mileage never justifies a car purchase.

Actual operating cost can however, and in that respect you have failed. Your insurance will cost more (full coverage over liability), your tires will cost more per mile, as well as brake parts and other maintenance items likely costing more than a Miata, or say a late model Corolla/Civic.

You only bought this car because someone financed you. Just because they'll let you doesn't mean you should.

There are plenty of other "daddy-mobiles" out there that make a lot more sense.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:17 PM   #37
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Also, $10k for a car that sold for $13k new?

I was thinking the same thing. Seriously $10k for a four year old $13k car with high mileage?? I don't care how many mods it has on it, no way it was worth 10k.

Hope you enjoy it though, and hope it's reliable for you.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:56 PM   #38
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I've ridden in an xB and thought it was spacious inside and relatively comfortable. And I like Toyota's build quality a good bit. And as a family truckster they have very reasonable utility. However, a brief craigslist search just returned three '05 xB's with 65 to 80k miles for ~$7,500. Since that would be a retail price and the dealer fucked the person who traded in the Scion and gave them low wholesale ($5,500-$6,000), you gave away your Miata to a dealer for the pleasure of doing business with them. And you gave them money on top of that. And you are paying too much for financing (because it is their game to never lose).

When will people ever learn to stop buying cars from dealers? You never win with a dealer.
"But I got such a good deal!" Who told you that, the dealer?
"But I got them to drop their price so much!" After they raised it so much more?
"I got it for so much less than they wanted for it!" No, they got exactly what they wanted for it. The starting price is always a ridiculous made up price that they intend to come off of to make you feel good about your deal. That is the game.


My favorite that you didn't use here is: "But I got zero percent financing!" And you paid for it yourself in the purchase price. "No, I didn't pay any more for it." Yes you did. They could have dropped the sale price a lot more if you didn't take the zero percent financing. The money to buy down the financing comes from somewhere, and it isn't the dealer's pocket, it's yours.

The only real deal is the "bait" car in a "bait and switch" dealer advertisement and you will never actually get to buy that one, at least not at that actual price...by design.

But that van should give you good service for many years. The only way to get your money's worth out of it is to drive it for many years. Like eight.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:00 PM   #39
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Never have and never will buy a car from a dealer, unless I for some reason just have to have one brand new. I hate watching people I know go through new cars like water, and they keep trading their old cars to dealers to "get a better deal". They are still paying WAY to much and getting way too little for their old cars.
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I bought my 96 Miata from a Mom N' Pop dealer..but it had some good modes (racing beat/hard dog/koni) and it had 100k on it...but I got it for $4500 in 02...which really wasn't a bad deal. I knew when I was getting into when I decided to look at Miatas from dealerships.
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