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bikersam717 06-26-2013 12:41 PM

Turbo Supermoto?
 
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This is new supermoto toy. It is slow.

Is this a good idea?? MpFab Kit..

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372264864

redrider706 06-26-2013 12:43 PM

You might be better off getting a faster bike.

18psi 06-26-2013 12:43 PM

Turbo on anything is a good idea

ANYTHING :party:

Ryan_G 06-26-2013 01:20 PM

I seriously would rock a kit like that on my CR250. That is fucking awesome.

EDIT 1: The only concern would be burning my leg on it because it is not isolated very well.

EDIT 2: I would also be concerned with what happened to it when I fell. Is it durable?

vehicular 06-26-2013 01:20 PM

MP Fab is in Birmingham, about 2 hours from me. His work is stunningly nice.

Turbo WR250Xs are silly, though. Buy a YZ450F and put a plate and 17s on it, or put a Millenium big bore in a DRZ400SM. Or strip all the extraneous nonsense off a Versys (mine is an absolute ball). All of these options would be cheaper, faster, more reliable, and less trouble than a turbo WR-X.

Ryan_G 06-26-2013 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by vehicular (Post 1025473)
MP Fab is in Birmingham, about 2 hours from me. His work is stunningly nice.

Turbo WR250Xs are silly, though. Buy a YZ450F and put a plate and 17s on it, or put a Millenium big bore in a DRZ400SM. Or strip all the extraneous nonsense off a Versys (mine is an absolute ball). All of these options would be cheaper, faster, more reliable, and less trouble than a turbo WR-X.

BUT IT HAZ TURBO!!!!!!!!!!

Fireindc 06-26-2013 02:04 PM

Dude, that bike is WINNING. +1 turbo on anything is awesome. not sure if it would be worth your trouble though.

I've contemplated the same thing on my buell.. several people have made 150+whp with them that way.

bikersam717 06-26-2013 02:41 PM

Everyone running the same kit has had no complaints about heat, none that header wrap couldn't fix at least.
Plating anything that doesn't come plated is near impossible. I live in California. The next step up in displacement area for a stock supermoto (everyone around here has DRZ400's I want to be a little bit unique) is Husky and Ktm area which is big bucks.

mfoote 06-26-2013 10:55 PM

A week ago I just got a Suzuki DR350S for...well...Free. :party:

The first thing that came to mind was "Hey, I could spend $500 turbo-ing this and it would only be a $500 motorcycle, this is a really good idea".

mfoote 06-27-2013 12:24 AM

DAMNIT.

See what you did? I just spent the past hour and a half finding the cheapest place to get a used tiny turbo from.

This website is very useful BTW:
http://catalog.altoturbo.com/advance...geField.y=-151

:crx:

vehicular 06-27-2013 10:09 AM

1.) You can get an ~05 525SMR for under $4k all day. KTMs aren't that high.

2.) You can usually get Garrett GT12s and GT15Vs on ebay from FSAE teams for really cheap. Garrett gives a free one to any team who asks every year.

Braineack 06-27-2013 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1025491)
Dude, that bike is WINNING. +1 turbo on anything is awesome. not sure if it would be worth your trouble though.

I've contemplated the same thing on my buell.. several people have made 150+whp with them that way.

I had a local selling the exact same bike and turbo kit... i REALLY wanted it.

miata2fast 06-27-2013 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1025472)
I seriously would rock a kit like that on my CR250. That is fucking awesome.

EDIT 1: The only concern would be burning my leg on it because it is not isolated very well.

EDIT 2: I would also be concerned with what happened to it when I fell. Is it durable?

Do you have a 2 stroke or 4 stroke?

This thread makes me miss riding my YZ 450. That is still the best motorsport fun I ever had.

bikersam717 06-27-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by vehicular (Post 1025812)
1.) You can get an ~05 525SMR for under $4k all day. KTMs aren't that high.

2.) You can usually get Garrett GT12s and GT15Vs on ebay from FSAE teams for really cheap. Garrett gives a free one to any team who asks every year.

Not where I live. If that was the case I would of had one a long time ago haha.

I also just sold off my welder and all fabrication tools, I have a tiny 1 car garage now with no room for anything. It would have to be a prefabbed kit.

Fireindc 06-27-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1025813)
I had a local selling the exact same bike and turbo kit... i REALLY wanted it.

One day I'm going to do that to mine. On completely stock internals they hold that kind of power all day long. The same guy made 185whp with forged internals and lower compression. The ECM is fully tunable from the factory and has unused imputs you can add a map sensor to. Relocate the AIT sensor, use speed density and tune it up!

His most recent setup completely hides the turbo under the bike for a good low CG and stealth setup.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372352805

Although I have enough trouble with my turbo miata, and at least my bike is stone cold reliable.. so i probably shouldn't attempt this.

Ryan_G 06-27-2013 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 1025897)
Do you have a 2 stroke or 4 stroke?

This thread makes me miss riding my YZ 450. That is still the best motorsport fun I ever had.

I have a 2 stroke which I trail ride. It is not ideal for what I do but I got a good price on it and the fact that it is a bit harder to handle on the trails has made me a better rider. When I get on my brothers YZ250 I feel like I can go wide open all the time because it is so much easier to ride.

vehicular 06-27-2013 03:03 PM

After 12 seconds on search tempest, here's a plated 520EXC SM in Chatanooga for $3300:

2002 KTM 520 SuperMoto


I bet he'd take less, and shipping a bike is cake.




Actually, I might buy it, haha...

vehicular 06-27-2013 03:33 PM

I'm not trying to be contrary, just pointing out that options exist.

miata2fast 06-27-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1025920)
I have a 2 stroke which I trail ride. It is not ideal for what I do but I got a good price on it and the fact that it is a bit harder to handle on the trails has made me a better rider. When I get on my brothers YZ250 I feel like I can go wide open all the time because it is so much easier to ride.

Have you ridden the 4 strokes yet? It makes riding sand fun again.

Landrew 06-27-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 1026010)
Have you ridden the 4 strokes yet? It makes riding sand fun again.

Yah, what bike do you trail ride ?

Ive ridden 250 two's and have had a few 4's. I ride a YZ450F and love it. We also have a YZ125 with mods for bottom end and its just so flickable but on a long grungy rocky mountain climb it starts to lag. I just put a Rekluse on my 450 and its amazing. I purposely stop and try to go again on hills just because I can with no drama. Haven't had it out to the mountains yet but soon soon.....

Motocross bikes are my favorite motorsport right now (and last 10 years)as well. No rules, unlimited scenery, and with a 450 always "all of it" power.


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