VW corrado?
 

Does anyone have much experience with them? (I remember his lordship hustler may have had one, or some kind of vr6)

I'm looking into one for a good deal and I have always really liked these cars, and loved the engine.

Its a salvage title and was recently rear ended ontop of that, but the damage is minor (bumper cover and support+rear hatch, but still closes and seals) and the price is too good to ignore.

Is there something I should really look out for with these? I know the rear wing beaks, and the synchros can be bad, is there much else?

I love them, I have had some friends that had major problems with them. They are always overheating(g60 and vr6) My buddys g60 caught on fire twice! I don't remember why though. If i had some extra cash though, I would get one, I fukin love those cars!

Yes, I had a turbo rado for a year or so, until it disappeared on a tow truck and was never seen again.

The decision is heavily weighted on price. If its a g60, and cheap enough to justify swapping in a 2.0 NA motor (w/ATP or Kinetic turbo kit) or a 1.8t (better) then do it. IF its a vr6, get it now. The VR6 is your daddy. With either motor, you need a Peloquin diff even for daily driving...VW transmissions suck massive ass and love to grenade. They used aluminum rivets at the ring-gear to diff, which of course machine themselves. Timing chain replacement is pretty straightforward. Aside from this, the mechanical side is solid.
The electrical side is a disaster. Buy a multi-meter because you're going to need it. Coil packs will fail continually, fan switch will fail, dash lights will burn out (swap with an mk3 dash), and the spoiler will probably stop working and replacement motors are starting to become worth their weight in gold.

With all this crap said, vr6 corrados are the coolest fwd cars on the road. You lie down in the motherfucker, the engine howls, it spins like a sewing machine because the VR is essentially an L6, and people will constantly ask you what the car is called and tell you how its mega-awesome. Oh, you can bolt on a used vortech with C1's (i think) chip and make 350whp. These cars are really starting to bring a premium. Expect "decent" quality corrado slc's to bring $10k plus regardless of title designation or mileage.
http://www.concept1.ca/PHOTO%20GAL%2...KaiCorrado.jpg
not mine.

My friend had a SC one, red with black leather, man that car was so sweet, except the SC died and the car was slower than my 1.5 automatic civic at the time.
But I have always liked them, ever since I lived in Germany, I would have to agree with Hustler, coolest WWD out there.

oh, and if you buy one you're required to put Oettinger's on it.
Mine was the same color with the same wheels. Dusty Mauve ftw!!!oneone
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My SRD's had red stictching:
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and 488whp/481wtq

I could do 3rd gear high rolls and get a quarter from the dash into the rear hatch area. It was really safe for a 19-year old.

That car was so far ahead of its time, kinda like the FD RX7...amazing.

Hustler, out of all the colors, you had to have the gayest one, wtf? haha
If you ain't rubbin you ain't dubbin!!!

mine would go from 0-172 in less than 1-mile, and ran an 11.8 (with a 2.7 60', lol) at 116mph in the 1/4. I had a "eurosport" 6-speed with custom ratios that I bought off a friend (who had a 740whp gti that he drove daily). 2nd went out to 67, 3rd went out to 114mph, and it did 80mph at 2600rpm in 6th. That car was a monster. I still miss it.

Unless you sort the car out like Hustler did, Corrado = Parts car :)

If you're looking for a VR, make sure the timing chains are in good shape. They usually get sloppy at 100k. The trans has to come out to do them, so not only is it a good bargaining chip if they haven't been done, it's the perfect opportunity to drop in a peloquin or quaife.

If you're thinking of a G60, stop.:bang: I realize ATP and all sorts of other companies make turbo conversions and Lysholm swaps, but you can make way more power with either the VR or swapping in a 20V.

fuck quaife. They suck at life, and told me my 2-week old, $900 diff was not covered under warranty because the warranty doesn't apply to all parts of the diff, only the internals.

Peloquin is where it's at.

I sheared the teeth clean off 1st, 3rd, and 4th in an 02A and Peloquin rebuilt the diff under warranty. Chunks of teeth were falling out of the planetary gears as I wrapped it up for shipping. :giggle:

Peloquin is also $200 cheaper.

you're the only person who's destroyed one. I talked to Gary about making a diff for miatas a couple years ago.

Well it looks like I'm getting me a 1992 corrado SLC VR6 for $1300.

Salvage title, and recently was lightly rear ended, so it needs a bumper and hatch, but still, I fucking love this car already. The guy before said there's a 3" exhaust and I don't doubt that, it's loud and sounds 100000x better than my miata. Has neuspeed lowering springs and some KYB shocks, plus a cone filter, recently replaced transmission, urethane control arm bushings, new steering wheel, and recently replaced cooling system.

Some electrical shit doesn't work like the mirror adjuster on the drivers side, the rear wing:( ( I love those things when they do work), A/C, Door handle, and a few other small things, but hey, its not like i'm paying for a perfect car at $1300.

Is this a really good deal like I think? I don't really care what you gays say, because i'm in love with the car already.

This isn't tooo bad of an idea right? $1300 is less than what the car is worth in parts, no? This car is bitchin, picking it up tomorrow if all goes as planned.

Oh and hustler, any more info on that vortech with C1's chip stuff? It sounds like a good upgrade, but is that a specific blower or something?

Shit this will put back the turbo miata plans some... but i get a corrado.

Yeah, that's a good deal. It's been a few years, but I almost bought a corrado from a friend of mine a while back and looked into them. Even then the VR6 models were fetching ridiculous prices. They seem to only have gone up in price.

Should be fun with the suspension. The one I almost bought had a suspension so stiff it would hop every bump in the road, but it sure did stick in the corners!

Be prepared to pay a bit for the needed parts though.

My friend has a Corrado SLC with a nice T4E on. Thing moves out great :)

I had a t4 on mine too, it was durty.

A few companies make a kit with a V1 blower. Its a really easy bolt-on deal, you just have to tap one hole for mounting purposes in the head. At just 8psi, you'll pull base model c5's pretty hard. C1 makes a chip that you just plug in, you can run any injector size, and they cars basically run "almost" as well as a stand alone system. If you're only less than 300whp, then that's what you should go with.

Vr6's howl like no other motor. You can use MK3 parts for the AC system, but most of the other electrical stuff is from MK2 generation cars.

Sounds sick, I love his car.

He made a custom manifold and did all the IC piping himself, its an air-to-water setup. Pretty clean. I know it was tuned somewhere in the North East...IIRC it was supposed to be the "way to go" as far as tuning.

You are correct too, VRs sound damn sexy. A chick in my development has an MKIV R32, I cannot help but look out the window every time she winds it up :)

Great cars. Plus the 'rrado is just so damn sexy.

PS - is that "dusty muave" the same as "black cherry", or was there an actual black cherry (best way I can describe the color of my friends car)?

If its purple, its "dusty mauve" and worth some cash. I miss that car.

Dusty Mauve it is then.

Can't be more fun than the Miata though....right?

absolutely not, the miata is by far superior. However, I had a lot of fun rolling over Vipers and the Jotech supra on highway pulls. Merging with traffic was awesome. I mean fuck, it would smoke the tires on a concrete highway in 3rd gear (just mash the loud pedal). I could put it in 3rd at 60mph (3100rpm) and it would roll the tires until the grabbed at like 90, then roll out to 114mph. I had 22" slicks on bogarts that would fight for traction in 3rd at the drag strip when launching in 2nd.

Its kinda cheezy, but back in the late 90's and early 2k's when street racing was cool, my buddies would roll out like a gang. There were 5 400+whp turbo vr6's in one house, and we had a group of about 12 400+whp cars in our circle of friends. This is back when the law would come out to the street races and tell us to "go somewhere else" instead of arrest everyone for manslaughter.

of course we did one track day and just about every car in our circle of friends broke on the first session...lol.

Sounds pretty sick man, I'd miss it too.

I also miss the street racing days, back when people weren't retards about it. Well, I guess its retarded to do anyways, but you know what I mean...

And yeah, the first time I went for a ride and my friend rolled into third and blew the tires off...I about shat myself, lol.

I can only imagine what 400+feels like, the fastest car I've been in is a 376whp MKIV GTI...it's fast, but the dude thinks it's slow, I guess thats that boost bug biting him again.

oh god!

Hustler, I remember hearing bits and pieces about your experience with your corrado, what exactly happened? Did you get any dough from your insurance company?

Back in highschool my friend sold his old Z to get a GTI. He had some stuff done to it, but it could move pretty good. To bad his friend with a gutted fiesta could fucking romp on him like it was sitting still. I rode in the fiesta one time and never again, it screamed death trap.

Vash-

I had to replace pretty much every electrical part on the car
the eip manifolds broke (the replacements were $600)
the ATP manifold cracked ($400 for each manifold for the manifold and $250 for the DP)
*yes, I went through 3-turbo manifolds
studs constantly backed out of the ATP manifold
intercooler pipes blew off all the time because they didn't put lips in the pipes
Haltech took like 2-months to install, and made no sense after following the instructions
one turbo nut came off the impeller and chewed up the compressor
then after the rebuild (no warranty) I blew the seals from too much oil pressure (another $400 down the shitter)
the turbo was so close to the fire wall that it melted some wires behind the dash and I had to rewire most of the car
it constantly overheated
blew up 4 transmissions
blew up one quaife diff

and this doesn't take shit into account like fan switches, ac compressors, abs sensors, oil pressure sensors, water pumps, and all the other bullshit that comes with owning a european car. As for the theft, I got blue book value for the car, nothing more. I'm going to get an additional rider on my miata for theft at $12,000.

This is why I'm so worried about going the turbo route on my car. The last time it was a fucking disaster.

Holy shit, thats alot of problems. Thats crazy that it melted wires BEHIND the firewall! What kind of whp were you making? Do you have any pics?

I think you'll have a better experience with the miata for sure. First car I ever really took apart and worked on and after years of being turbo'd I have yet to have any serious issues (knock on wood). And as for theft factor, I think miatas aren't just yet in that margin of cars to steal. To many mainstream cars around to steal than to fuck with a little old miata right....I hope! :eek5:

So one day your car was just up and gone? Thats crazy man. I feel like I would have gone on a rage and destroyed something or someone if that happened to me. Props to you for not being scarred away and to keep modding cars.

P.S. Where abouts is your miata located again? ;)

Vash-

Hustler, this has to be the best post I have ever seen you make and I agree with you 100%


The Vr6 cars run hot, so replacing the shitty plastic cooling parts is a good idea so one does not end up stranded, the G60 isn't shit, but the chargers blow...bad.

A friend of mine has a 91 G60 as his daily and a pretty clean 93? SLC (VR6) that he pretty much dicks around with when he is home.

I don't know if I would trust one as a daily until I went over it completely, but these things are badass little cars, they handle extremely well and the rare factor is badass.

the motor made 488whp/481wtq. It was fun. Any car with a big intercooler hanging out the front is a target. I lived in a high-end apartment and awoke one day and the car was gone from the garage. I assume someone followed me around, probably from embarrassing some honda on the highway. It finally got to the point that we just wanted to set up 600cc sport bikes, and didn't care about running cars anymore. I was really sad when the car left, but I also didn't have my life in order and pretty much loved that car more than myself. I saw the wheels on the internet on a guy's car like 2 years ago (DL# engraved). I just reverted back to my old 1997 jetta and drove it when I wasn't working on it, then drove the tt-225 in 2003 and luckily kept the jetta because the TT went to court for lemon law greatness. So I was back to the jetta until 2005 when I bought the miata.

I have 2 pics at home but they're photgraphs because the car was stolen in 2000, way before the cost-effective digital camera revolution...I was still on dial-up until 2003.

Now maybe everyone understands why I'm so worried about reliability. My last 3 cars were shamefully unreliable, and the turbo shit just made them worse. However, for some reason I'm doing it again...hopefully for the last time. Right now, I do not think its going to make it through a session at the track at all, and I'm going to end up with a horror story of reliability, sell the car, turn the daily into a caged track car, and buy a civic to daily.

I really, really, really hope my turbo miata works out, of I'm going to have nothing to show for it but wasted cash.

VW=poop

the vr6 was originally designed as a 24-valve motor, but they couldn't cool it. MTM actually got a hold of the old 24v prototype head casts and made a few heads...which ran hot and warped. Just a little trivia for you.

BTW, there's a silver corrado running around Fort Worth with an r32 motor bored over to 3.7l, ITB's, 034efi, and its possibly the dirtiest, nastiest car I've ever seen or heard in my life.

Shit man 488whp/481wtq sounds awesome! I hear you about the big FMIC and making it a target and all. That is down right shit to one day wake up and have your pride and joy gone, I really couldn't imagine it. I keep my miata tucked away on the side of my house, hidden from street view. If it was to start up I would hear it in a heartbeat and have enough time to get to them before they got to the street. I swear to christ I would probably kill someone if I caught them trying to steal my car.

I remember from your other post about the install time period your going to have before the track sessions. Hopefully you rethink it a little and give yourself more time to do the actual install and have it tuned/running and then maybe even fine tuned before you track it. Your absolutely right it would be a waste to do all the work your doing to have it fail. I really think your gonna love the turbo miata more than you can even imagine. Just don't fucking rush it! lol :vash:

When you say TT, are you referring to the Audi? I always wanted to get behind the wheel of one, but I have heard they are terribly slow. But when done up right.....god they look amazing.

Vash-

Yeah, a TT. They're pretty slow, essentially fwd, and painfully unreliable. The install is a different story: built it, fly away for work, then fly home, tune it, then take it to the track.

Wow Hustler, you had some major headaches with the VW. Props for sticking with it and making something of it, I would have pushed it off a damn cliff.

And of course, sorry to hear about her theft. The perps will get their's someday...thieving bastards.

I didn't know that...lol, neat. At least they got it right the second time around when they did release the 24v.

I think I've seen pictures/video of that car if it is the one I'm thinking of..

It sounds like a race car and would make just about any car guy cream his pants at the sound? I saw a 24v VR6 mk2 the other day...I want to do that so bad...

I found a 8v shell I want right now if I can get rid of my 16v....ABA+16v head+eaton m90 = ftw

Now I understand all of your anger hustler!

But from what people are saying these cars rock and are just as cool as they look and sound, so long as you avoid turbocharging (I wouldn't want to muffle that amazing engine anyways).

I'm heading out to pick it up right now!:cool:

I was in the same boat as you.

My first project was an '86 Golf with a 2.0L 16V. Second was a '92 Gli 2.0L 16V. Third was an '84 Rabbit with, you guessed it, a 2.1L 16V on throttle bodies, then a 20V with a T3/T4. Next up was a 86 Jetta coupe with a VR swap, then a '90 G60 Rado, now a '01 S4 and the wifes ride is a '07 GTi.

Shit that would have placed any one of those cars above in the cripple pile doesn't even phase the miata. The hose clamp on one of the heater core lines didn't get tightened down all the way, and I lost almost a gallon of coolant. After a refill, it was fine. Try that with a VR :giggle: Crack pipe and radiator at a bare minumum; likely the head gasket. Mazda is leaps and bounds above VW for durability.

Moral of the story: you aren't going to run into anything like the horror you went through with VW.


ATP :bang: How a company can produce a cast manifold that warps and rejects studs is beyond me. EIP is thankfully gone.

my favorite with all of them was when I called them 2 months after purchase to tell them their $400 manifold crack and they say, "oh we'll replace it, just send us $450."

When it comes to the vw's, I could fart in them and something would go wrong or throw a CEL.

I drove a few APR s3 s4's and borrowed one for like 1-month. That was epic. 4-wheel tire-smokers are durty.

actually they didn't. They still overheat in track action. I think its beyond possibility to cram that many valves in such a tight space, and have enough heat-sink to keep it cool.

The r32 cools fine because there is much more space to work with from what people tell me.

OMFG, when I get home and show you guys this euro-trash vw vid, you're going to shit.

I picked it up and you guys were right about the problems.

New problems found:
1. Coolant leak from one of the hoses in the back of the engine bay, this is leaking like a mofo, and i emptied the expansion tank thing in ten minutes, re-filled and went home.

2. Some kind of vacum leak/dirty tb/dirty maf/idk what the hell it is. The car stalled twice, and hesitates like mad.

3. All of the speakers are not there...

4. Shocks feel a little tired, and the car is a tad bouncy.

5. The car is still badass and sounds like thunder on skates. Pics coming.

Nice! So.....now whats priority, corrado or miata?

I would hope miata.....lol. :)

Vash-

I think it will be

a. get corrado to not overheat and die when driven

b. prep miata for trackday

c. make corrado even more badass.

I may have to decide at the end of the summer to sell one of the cars, but I'd rather keep them seeing as both of these are so badass.

But I just want to get all of the serious stuff wrong with the corrado sorted (stalling, idle, and coolant) then probably get my seat, harness, and steering wheel for the miata.

Sexy shots
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damage shot right here, but its not that bad.
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FAKE CARBON OH YEAH
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dirty vr6
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Leaking from that big t-connection in those hoses.
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get ready for the lol:

at least the vw fags do the obnoxious shit to a level never thought possible, the club roadster fagmos don't have the commitment like Sven.

Gold plated strut tower bars are for pros only.

I also just found a shitload of other things that are messed up on the new corrado, and pulled up to the local gas station pouring white smoke out of the engine bay from where the heater hose meets the head, so more money needed.

meet your new god:
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I love this car, and the build quality is fucking impeccable. Notice anything unique about it?
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^ Jetta coupe? wtf

shaved up! Saw a nice white Jetta III "coupe" at e-town a few years back. VW guys definately play ball...best drops, best shaved motors, etc, etc, etc...

welded in a gti door frame, and seam welded at the back of the car...perfect work.

even though they typically have bad taste, the execution is remarkable.

and one more corrado that looks fucking incredible. This is one of my friend's car, with you guessed it, a T04e turbo car. He's had it like 11 years with the turbo. Pretty much everything in the car has been fabricated in his garage which broke, and most of the electronics have been replaced with non-bosch parts. Now its fairly reliable. He has like 140k miles on the John Day built motor at +/- 400whp.
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You really like the look of those slammed and tucked cars, eh?

yeah, well...fuck yeah. Its WWD, not like its going to handle worth a shit anyway.

my old daily, can't find the 2 rado pics
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but it spent all of its life like this:
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i like corrado's, (at least i better, my car has a corrado engine and engine management) but they have nothing on the scirocco. and by that i mean the old ones, not the new abomination they made and have yet to send to this country.

just make sure all of your electrical system has been gone over and you should be ok. the rear wings always break, but if you stay on top of cleaning the moving parts/motor you will get a lot of life out of the replacement.

the corrado club of canada has some nice diy info for the vr and g60, so make sure you check them out.

Vdub & audis to playa for me

One of my friends had a Jetta in that body style wayy back in the day. He dropped it, big wheels, tint, exhaust, and some bullshit LED things in the inside. The car was great for afternoon blunt rides, but it was fucking slower than shit. He would lose every time he lined up next to someone at a red light. He caught on after a couple years that it was a joke and he got a Audi A4, also slow, but more respectable.

Vash-

fucking priceless.

Read maxpower for a laugh sometime.

I hear you on that bro, I had the same deal. We called the "map" lights in the back weed lights, because they were great for rolling a dutch at night, lol.

His was an automatic 2.slow that lived up to its name, lol.

we just rolled with a Jerome Baker 18" bong. I work for a division of homeland security now, so I'll deny that in court.