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Old 01-21-2014, 12:08 PM   #81
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Re: 16 vs 32G
Neither Android nor Windows does a great job of handling expanded memory. Both treat it as separate from the original memory not as expansions. It's the same as adding another drive except you can't 'extend' the drive. I'd opt for the 32G to begin with regardless of an expansion port or not.
Yes, I understand that an SD card will be mounted as a separate volume, hence the question about ease of accessibility. On a Windows system, it's a no-brainer. You just tell the app to refer to drive D: (or whatever.) In Android, no analagous concept seems obviously apparent to me.

I am definately leaning towards 32G, but I don't want that to be an absolute gating factor, as there seem to be a *LOT* more 16G devices out there. (Same goes for 1G of RAM vs. 2)


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Re: Nexus 10, pretty much a forgone conclusion there's a replacement ready to be announced. You can find the 'rumored' specs online easily. Pretty hard to beat a Google spec'd NEXUS device.
To be clear: I am going to buy something either this evening or tomorrow, depending on how bad the snow is when I get out of the office. It will come from either B&H, or from the BestBuy store at the corner of 23rd & 6th.

If I wind up replacing it in six months, that's fine- they're cheap.



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Don't think they have an Android port for TS. Maybe, given they have a Linux port you could do this in your free time
Whooops, you're right. I thought for some reason that there was an analogous app available for Droid, but it looks like it's still just ShadowLogger and ShadowDash.

Doesn't really matter, I was just using that as an example. I'm wondering how many apps I'm likely to run into that issue with.
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Yes, I understand that an SD card will be mounted as a separate volume, hence the question about ease of accessibility. On a Windows system, it's a no-brainer. You just tell the app to refer to drive D: (or whatever.) In Android, no analagous concept seems obviously apparent to me.

I am definately leaning towards 32G, but I don't want that to be an absolute gating factor, as there seem to be a *LOT* more 16G devices out there. (Same goes for 1G of RAM vs. 2)


To be clear: I am going to buy something either this evening or tomorrow, depending on how bad the snow is when I get out of the office. It will come from either B&H, or from the BestBuy store at the corner of 23rd & 6th.
When I first bought the Acer A500 I also bought a good case and a BT keyboard. I also carried a small corded mouse which plugged into the full size USB port. When at a hotel answering the usual BS emails at night I really liked being able to type on a KB and use a mouse to do the clicking. If ASUS had released the unit with the detachable keyboard I'd have bought it for that feature and the additional battery.

I found it handled most everything I needed in the way of business communication including hooking into exchange server for email. If I didn't need the excel capability I mentioned earlier it would've been the only thing I carried.

I kept the keyboard + mouse in my backpack bag (Swissgear) and the tablet was on all day + recharge in the hotel at night.

And, it was a 16GB unit with 16GB addon and TBH it worked out fine and I never had any memory issues.

It would be nice for Android Dropbox to be able to 'assign' itself to the other volume but maybe someday it will (It's a much requested feature in the beta forums).

I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever so good luck.
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I have very little to add, except to be careful if you expect them all to support microSD cards, because they don't. None of the Nexus tablets (or any Nexus device after the Nexus One from 2010) have a microSD slot.

Secondly, if you're going with a 10" Android tablet, the Asus is a solid choice in any generation. They just make good devices in the Android space. The add-on keyboard does add some functionality, but it is also super useful for battery life.

Use case: You have your bag with the tablet and keyboard in it, both fully charged. You detach the tablet from the keyboard (super easy, one button and pull) and use the tablet for a couple hours/however long. When you're finished, you slap it back together with the keyboard and put it back in your bag.

When you take the tablet out of your bag later and detach the keyboard, you will find that the tablet has been fully recharged from the keyboard.

Neat, eh?
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I have no specific input on tablets, only owning a Kindle Fire - which my son immediately appropriated.

However, I will state that I support Asus products, having owned everything from MB to monitors without any issues whatsoever.
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To be clear: I am going to buy something either this evening or tomorrow, depending on how bad the snow is when I get out of the office. It will come from either B&H, or from the BestBuy store at the corner of 23rd & 6th.
So, what did you finally get or did the weather keep you from your appointed rounds?
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So, what did you finally get or did the weather keep you from your appointed rounds?
The weather made it challenging, but B&H was still open, and still packed as always. I love that friggin' store.

Handling the tablets was important. I did very much like the display on the 10" units, however I found that the 8" models were exactly the perfect size to comfortably hold in one hand as though it were a giant smartphone.



Anything larger didn't fit, and anything smaller would have been needlessly sacrificing screen size. And I couldn't get over the fact that the 10" units all had large borders around the display which made the tablet, overall a lot bigger than it needed to be, whereas the 7s and 8s didn't.

So after playing with a few, I decided on the ASUS MeMO HD 8, which is the little brother of the 10" unit I'd been looking at. The screen is nice and vivid, and even though it's "only" 1200x800, it looks fine to me. I'm old enough to remember when 640x480 on a 14" display was amazingly high-rez. I did play a bit with the Nexus 7, and while it was nice, I wasn't as blown away by it as the hype led me to think I would be.

ASUS 16GB MeMO Pad HD 8 Tablet (White) ME180A-A1-WH B&H Photo

Haven't really used it enough yet to form any strong opinions. I am a little amused by how much bloatware / non-standard crap it has on it, given how folks were warning me to stay away from the Samsung for that reason. And it's obviously not a speed-demon in terms of CPU power, but it's adequate. For $190, I'm not gonna complain.
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The weather made it challenging, but B&H was still open, and still packed as always. I love that friggin' store.

Handling the tablets was important. I did very much like the display on the 10" units, however I found that the 8" models were exactly the perfect size to comfortably hold in one hand as though it were a giant smartphone.

Anything larger didn't fit, and anything smaller would have been needlessly sacrificing screen size. And I couldn't get over the fact that the 10" units all had large borders around the display which made the tablet, overall a lot bigger than it needed to be, whereas the 7s and 8s didn't.

So after playing with a few, I decided on the ASUS MeMO HD 8, which is the little brother of the 10" unit I'd been looking at. The screen is nice and vivid, and even though it's "only" 1200x800, it looks fine to me. I'm old enough to remember when 640x480 on a 14" display was amazingly high-rez. I did play a bit with the Nexus 7, and while it was nice, I wasn't as blown away by it as the hype led me to think I would be.

ASUS 16GB MeMO Pad HD 8 Tablet (White) ME180A-A1-WH B&H Photo

Haven't really used it enough yet to form any strong opinions. I am a little amused by how much bloatware / non-standard crap it has on it, given how folks were warning me to stay away from the Samsung for that reason. And it's obviously not a speed-demon in terms of CPU power, but it's adequate. For $190, I'm not gonna complain.
Nice and a great price.
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Joes Perez goes out to get a tablet and cant help but purchase some BNC terminators while he is out.
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Not a fan of the MeMO line but that does look like a slick little tablet. Definitely a much, much better choice than the Galaxy Tab 8". You might have some bloat still, but you have a sharper screen and roughly the same processor power (and probably better build quality) for considerably less money.

I was pretty sure the 8" would be the right size

Nice buy for sure.
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Joes Perez goes out to get a tablet and cant help but purchase some BNC terminators while he is out.
I work at a television station. We have boxes and boxes of those things lying around. And they're not terminators, they're compression-fitting connectors to go onto cable. Basically the pro version of the connectors that the cable TV installers use.



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Not a fan of the MeMO line but that does look like a slick little tablet.
It ain't high-end, but it'll be sufficient to serve as a proof-of-concept for whether a tablet provides value to me in general. If I decide that it does, I'll splurge on something nice later on. My only real gripe is that the power button is stupidly designed and difficult to assertively press.



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I was pretty sure the 8" would be the right size
It's a shame* that my hands aren't larger.

Really, the thing that most bothered me was that the 10" units all had a really thick border around the screen, making the device a lot larger than it needed to be. If anything, I'd expect that border to be proportionally larger on the 8" units, yet the opposite was true. The one exception here was the iPad Air, which was actually quite nice, but $500 seemed a tad excessive.

Amusing anecdote: Apparently the official designation for this model is the Asus K00L, as that is what now shows up in my Google Play store's "My Devices" view, alongside such boring names as Samsung SCH-I545, HUAWEI Prism II, and HTC Espresso 3G Slide.
* = Well, in this particular regard. In other ways, such as glove-buying, not. I'm already at the upper end of comfort in an "XXL" motorcycle glove, which is the largest size commonly available in stores. Beyond that, it's like trying to find size 14 shoes- gotta mail order 'em. My hands are not especially macho-looking, I just have long fingers.

I actually kind of wish they made a phone in this size. Yes, I'm aware of the Galaxy Note, but that's only 5.7". I mean a literal 8" phone. That would solve all of my wearable-computing and communication needs with just a single device.
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Hey Joe,
Could I ask you a couple questions about HD-SDI? Ive been looking for some information based on practice experience. Feel free to decline, I understand wanting to leave work at work.

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Hey Joe,
Could I ask you a couple questions about HD-SDI? Ive been looking for some information based on practice experience. Feel free to decline, I understand wanting to leave work at work.
You can try, but to be honest I'm still learning it myself. This is my first TV job since long before the digital transition.
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Joe, you may want to investigate the awesomeness that is the FlyGrip Gravity. Especially if you plan to hold that tablet with one hand. The Gravity version is simply magnetic (instead of plastic snap fit) and longer so it works better as a stand.


Best 30 bucks I've spent on gadget accessories.
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Four months.

That's how long the Asus tablet lasted.

The screen wasn't cracked, there's no obvious physical damage, it just stopped turning on. Of course I have no idea where the receipt is...

Picked up a Dell Venue 8 to replace it:



Pretty nice machine. Plain, unmolested Android 4.3, 2GB instead of 1, and a nice, zippy Atom Z2580 processor. The one thing I find a trifle annoying on it, weirdly, is the way the screen reacts when you remove your finger- the cursor tends to jump when you lift off- not sure if this is something I can calibrate out or if I just have to live with it. Makes VNC hard to use...


Now I just have to figure out how to deal with the old unit, vis-a-vis securely disposing of it. With hard drives it's easy, you just drill a hole through it and the data is all but gone. With this, I'd really like to find a way to render it unrecoverable, given the large number of cached passwords in its browser, along with a small amount of sensitive-ish data in its flash.

My attempts to open the device have so far failed, and I'm afraid of simply smashing it with a hammer for fear of causing a lithium battery fire. I considered tossing it onto 6th ave during rush hour or chucking it into the Hudson river, but those options don't seem responsible. Looking at various ebay listings for replacement boards for it, I believe I've found the specific place on the board where the flash memory is located:




Should be able to drill in from the backside and destroy that chip without hitting the battery. Then I can chuck it into the recycle bin at Best Buy.
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Can't disassemble it? Most of these units just pry apart. Take one of those little plastic pry-bar disassembly tools and run it around the edge of the screen to pop loose the edge of the back of the tablet.
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Don't you live next to railroad tracks or something? I hear trains are pretty good at breaking things.
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The screen wasn't cracked, there's no obvious physical damage, it just stopped turning on. Of course I have no idea where the receipt is...
Pop it open and get a new battery. eBay is your friend.
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Too bad you don't need a laptop.



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That is a cool picture; you should keep it up for as long as tablets exist.


Now I have a question, I started trying to read this thread at the beginning but tech changes quick and am frustrated with what I found by visiting Best Buy an hour or so ago and came home and started drinking 9% Sam Adams 13th hour...


I want a tablet like thing for the sole purpose of running Tuner Studio. I really liked the $269 - 299 price for the surface but it can't run a third-party program unless you buy the baller? (priced anyway) surface pro? So is there a ~$300-400 tablet that'd run Tuner Studio well yea or nay? I can give it to my wife when I'm done, she has wanted a tablet just because they are the popular thing for some time
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Take one of those little plastic pry-bar disassembly tools and run it around the edge of the screen to pop loose the edge of the back of the tablet.
Done. I now have a tablet whose glass screen is cracked in several places and the back is still firmly stuck on.
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