Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 654414)
Hey, has anyone thought of an air cooled VW engine swap? Front engine, rear drive, stock Miata transmission, adapter plate and at approximately 60hp it sounds like a real win. Seriously, why has no one ever thought of a swap like this? You even get the benefit of getting rid of the radiator. Win win.
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Originally Posted by Pusha
(Post 654416)
I tried. I couldn't get it to fit.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 654292)
I'd consider it for a VW if the tranny is at all possible to work out, or for a specially made kit car a la Joe Perez.
Then again, so are Sooby gearboxes, and they have synchros that aren't made of polished marble. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 654130)
Even if you somehow managed to stuff it in there, it would require pulling the engine to get to the plugs,
18psi is the official pinata ninja master. you put up your swap pinata and he knocks it down with one swipe. unless its a v8 what do u say about this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gine_Model.JPG ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_S65
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 654431)
Kennedy Engineered Products makes adapters to plug damn near any engine ever made into a VW or Porsche tranny. 905 gearboxes are pretty popular as they're cheap and reasonably durable.
Then again, so are Sooby gearboxes, and they have synchros that aren't made of polished marble. does the reverse exist? I would like to put a vw tdi motor in my miata. i would need a 300ft/lb capable gearbox that could fit a vw. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 654414)
Hey, has anyone thought of an air cooled VW engine swap? Front engine, rear drive, stock Miata transmission, adapter plate and at approximately 60hp it sounds like a real win. Seriously, why has no one ever thought of a swap like this? You even get the benefit of getting rid of the radiator. Win win.
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Originally Posted by Pusha
(Post 654403)
While you can manipulate images and really change shit around in Adobe Photoshop, if it can be done in MSPaint, it can be done in real life.
Proof that the boxer engine will fit in a Miata: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3176/stiswap.png After proving the boxer engine will fit, I went a head and tested a couple other theories I had in mind: http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/1373/355swap.png http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/712/wwswap.png |
Originally Posted by jasonb
(Post 654443)
yer goin about this all wrong boy. ya gotta rotate that thing. 90 degrees or so. then you can get half the plugs while under the car, and half when you open the hood. :laugh:
18psi is the official pinata ninja master. you put up your swap pinata and he knocks it down with one swipe. unless its a v8 what do u say about this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...gine_Model.JPG ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_S65 does the reverse exist? I would like to put a vw tdi motor in my miata. i would need a 300ft/lb capable gearbox that could fit a vw. Could get it done better and cheaper with an LS (and I hate LS engines). I remeber back when the M5 V10 first came out all the ricers where loving it because of the 100hp/liter ( ricer math :facepalm:) but the LS7 was both lighter, smaller, simpler, cheaper, and provided a better torque curve. It was more power dense. If you wanted a similar power band to the M3 V8 do a small cube LS and optimize it for 6K-8K rpm. And dont say an LS based enigne cant take the RPM, there has been a 408 at over 10K rpm. (fastest N/A T56 car) |
Hey guys I wanna put an iron duke in my miata because I heard non-counter balanced cranks are super light, so it should be able to rev high? do you think it wil fit.
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Originally Posted by Opti
(Post 654681)
Cost and complexity. Ever looked into the electronic controls on the M5 V10 and the M3 V8. Be a bitch to get it all to work. plus its still a pretty big engine for a V8 due to all its gadetry and DOHC.
i'm wondering if it could get it done on the s65? (or the f20c for that matter)
Originally Posted by Opti
(Post 654681)
Could get it done better and cheaper with an LS (and I hate LS engines).
I remeber back when the M5 V10 first came out all the ricers where loving it because of the 100hp/liter ( ricer math :facepalm:) but the LS7 was both lighter, smaller, simpler, cheaper, and provided a better torque curve. It was more power dense. i would also highly recommend to anybody to go to see the 24hrs of le mans. standing on the side of the mulsanne straight as the v8 powered cars went by at about 215 was really effing amazing. u can even get crepes and watch the race :giggle: |
Originally Posted by Opti
(Post 654681)
If you wanted a similar power band to the M3 V8 do a small cube LS and optimize it for 6K-8K rpm. And dont say an LS based enigne cant take the RPM, there has been a 408 at over 10K rpm. (fastest N/A T56 car)
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I would still prefer the M3 I-6 over any other V-8.
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If the question is about doing a motorswap and doesn't end with Merlin, you got bad advice.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 654887)
I would still prefer the M3 I-6 over any other V-8.
http://www.h1v8.com/i/engine%20galle...tle_bodies.jpg SPECIFICATIONS H1V8: * 75° odd fire V8 * 2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional) * 84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional) * 4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain * 530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high * 400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec. is available) * 245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm * 200 lbs engine weight * Billet nitrided steel 180° crank * 4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts * Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase * Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump * 7.25" or 5.5" Twin disc clutch * DTA S80 full sequential ECU * Unique cylinder offset and cam drive arrangement yields a compact design- Patent No. 7,168,405 ref: http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm |
if i'm going crazy like that, why not get a 2.4 F1 spec motor that revs at 18k limited and still puts down 700hp?
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$27,700? I better get two or three to make sure I won't be getting a bad one out of the box.
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Q: Why has no one done a boxer swap?
A: Because it destroys lives and tears apart relationships. |
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 654893)
$27,700? I better get two or three to make sure I won't be getting a bad one out of the box.
u been readin' the fine print again. never read the fine print. bad news lurks within.
Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 654902)
Q: Why has no one done a boxer swap?/
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While we're at it, BMW S54 swap. DOOOOOO ITTTTTTT
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What I want to see is a car with horizontally mounted motors, one for each wheel. Plus one for suction ala chapparal (sp). Plus one for lift so that way you can have zero weight which = infinite accelleration zero to sixty in zero seconds.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 655169)
What I want to see is a car with horizontally mounted motors, one for each wheel. Plus one for suction ala chapparal (sp). Plus one for lift so that way you can have zero weight which = infinite accelleration zero to sixty in zero seconds.
/thread actually, /forum Its over guys |
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