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Old 09-12-2007, 03:20 PM   #81
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whatever last event i spend 8 hours at for 12 minutes worth of driving
and that's why i stopped going to autox's. Saturday/Sunday mornin up at 8am. wait for 2 hrs to get your run. stand in the hot-*** sun. run around like a monkey *******' cones.

sorry Chicago kiddies, Angeles Crest Highway on a Sunday NITE ftw.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:32 PM   #82
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man oh man did this place get outta hand!.......Nothing wrong with driving around cones...to me driving a car hard is like having sex, I perfer doing it the ways I like it with the people I want.but either way if im having sex im having fun an happy to be doing it . Regardless if its autocross or HPDE...or god forbid i would actually step foot on a dragstrip...as long as im driving my car Im having fun, **** give me a go kart at Speedzone for a while and I have a blast.... its waiting so long to do it that gets me.
But I still have my funniest times in the canyons....but thats because i dont have the cash for a dedicated track car that is scary to drive. right now I know my cars pretty well and I have to learn some more. But that distance is not big anymore....oh well lets just have fun driving, and not waitng to drive

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Old 09-13-2007, 12:34 AM   #83
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VWs alright, im thinking of starting my own autox club or at least stuff for track days. Theres a track in MI/IN we can get for 1500-2000 a day with workers and ambulance. I guess the guys who own it are red neck as hell and just want to have a good time.

when i lived in holland, mi, i would goto gingerman tu-th. from mid may to early-mid sept they would have allows people to drive the track for $60 from 5pm til dusk. depending on the amount of people, usually no more than 20-30 on these nights, you would get about 3-5 20 minute sessions. your car had to pass tech, you needed a rollbar for a miata, and had to have a helmet, pants, etc. i don't know if they still do it, but i spent a LOT of money there in two years. worth every penny.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:38 AM   #84
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wow, i bet your national autocross champ friends really appreciate you saying **** like that.

i like autox, i'd love to do a track day. It sounds like somebody got their *** kicked by their friends at the doggie-paddling competition.

yep, they actually do. good friends can express opinions without taking offense.

yep, i doggie paddle well-enough but my freestyle is far more fun and faster.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:31 PM   #85
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think that's the crux of the problem here with allot of people.
I absolutely love to autocross, but the people you autocross with and the quality of the people putting on the event can make a big difference between enjoying yourself and wanting to kick some *** at the end of the day.........
Agreed. Although I stink at it, the people make all the difference. I've been to several different autox's in this area and it is mostly the organizers that make it a good day or the *****.
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*****. I get angry just thinking about it.
That's how I feel when I get these ricerfags who want to talk to me about my pretty much stock WRX and want to talk 1/4 mile times and ****. I tell them I don't know how fast it is in the quarter because that doesn't matter to me. When I get the look I tell them my mom can drive fast in a straight line, all my work is on the suspension.
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i went to chicago scca events in 2000-2002 and have never been back. the organizers were ******** unless you were in the 'inner circle' and the most runs i ever got was 4. the audi chicago club events usually get you 10+ runs, although they have a stupid rule where the course finishes are retarded. the people are very friendly though.


in central illinois things seem to be almost the polar opposite of chicago scca. registration usually closes around 10ish ($20 for club members, $25 for students, $30 for everyone else) and we usually get 5 or 6 runs in. things are more relaxed, although sometimes things move frustratingly slow. usually done around 5 or 6pm. still have to be outside in the sun for 8-10 hours for about 5 minutes of track time though.


i've done a couple track days before, but the idea of tracking my daily driver has me squeamish about offs and mechanical failures. at least with autox events i have friends who can tow my car home for me in exchange for beer.
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Marty, did you see the focus roll? It was at rantoul
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no, that happened on one of the saturdays for which i was at home, hungover. i heard all about it sunday though
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:28 PM   #90
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Oh yeah a friend of mine did that, got a new mustang from the insurance co.
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Yea, autocrossers that don't know any better usually chant that mantra.


There is a major fallacy with that statement, because usually good road racers have absolutely no interest in autocross, find the idea boring, and after having tasted sweeter fruits higher up on the vine have little enthusiasm to become successful at autocross.
the only fallacy is your ignorance...do you even have a brain? it seems not since anyone with even half a brain would not make such an ignorant statement
"tasted sweeter fruits" i wish i could spend more time at tracks, but they are pricy, no one said road courses suck...people are saying auto-x sux, sorry if you have had bad experiences, maybe little orange cones just scare you...auto-x is every amateurs dream, cheap, fun, and harmelss, great way to learn your car and how much you realy dont know about driving it...i have fun every time i go, yeah you can wait long times if the organizers are retarded, but dont go with that club, one club here has an annual 24 hr. auto-x...as many runs in a 24 hr. period as you could possibly want...but thats besides the point, auto-x is perfect for the low budget enthusiast, sometimes even creeps i admitt, but just ignore them...they will go away without cutting off your thigh and making a hat out of it :gay:



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aren't you making mince-meat of a cone in your sig. pic? and that goober with the helmet is just standing there to put boogers on your window when u drive by
i am, thats why its i my sig, i have plenty of pics people send me that im going around clean, that was the only cone i hit all weekend and i am proud of the fact (that its the only one)
boogers are yummy
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Sweeet! You totally convinced me the only way to improve my skills is to hang out in a parking lot and argue about car classing with hypersensitive gomers.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:54 PM   #93
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ohhh ice burrrrn

that said Im going to give autox a shot because Im too far from the closest track, and its my daily
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ohhh ice burrrrn

that said Im going to give autox a shot because Im too far from the closest track, and its my daily




I'm not saying autocross isn't worth doing, and isn't a great place to start. It's just really hard to get excited about it once you start doing big track stuff, or start wheel to wheel racing.
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Sweeet! You totally convinced me the only way to improve my skills is to hang out in a parking lot and argue about car classing with hypersensitive gomers.
Ben, again, its all about who you go with...if the local club is a bunch of dickweeds like im getting the feeling they are, the just **** them and go with another club...its not the only way to improve skill like your sarcastically implying, its just the most cost effective place to start, I know I wouldn’t want a green pea on the track with me at the same time, it imposes a danger if there is a loose canon out there, at an auto-x it is very rarely that something serious happens, I can recall only one instance a few months ago, it was all over the forums…someone in a GT3 hit some cars, but again, this is the course designers fault for having an effed up finish…you get my point im sure, I realize that you actually do have a brain (accept apologies for prior post) :gay:

again, avoid all gomers and just have fun...go with different club, i wish you were in this region, we have some great events...lots of seat time...except for speedfed nationals, that was very unorganized due to complications we wnt talk about...anyone that was there will know what i mean...damn insurance co.
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I did actaully autocross quite a bit back in the day, but in this area there is really only one club, and track time is so damned cheap that it makes 0 to no sense to me to be spending time and money autocrossing.


The local club isn't entirely full of dickweeds, I just don't care about the hard core classing and elitest attitude some autocrossers who have never really done any big track driving take.
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What are you talking about Ben? The auto-xers here are teh most awesomn3ss =/ Did you get your melting issue figured out yet?
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LOL. I said not entirely full of dickweeds, there are several very cool people. I hate how pointlessly rigid the structure of everything is, you've gotta admit there's quite a few folks that take it way too serious.

When was the last time the autocrossers threw a bbq just to hang out?


Yea, I'm taking corrective measures to cure the melting, I'm also taking the time to redo some stuff.
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I don't think there was any time in the last ... 5 years or so where they had a hang-out shindig.
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I don't think there was any time in the last ... 5 years or so where they had a hang-out shindig.
The point in that is, the street racers, drag racers, road racers, and drifters all actually hang out outside the actual events, from the grassroots to the top pro levels. That tells you something right there. To a degree that means the autocrossers even annoy each other.
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