I'd sell the viper and get a c5 or c6z.
Actually, I'd just keep what I have because its just as fast as any street vette or viper when I learn to drive, and tires are cheaper. |
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 523084)
Anybody who spends $30k on a V8 swap in a Miata is an idiot anyway. It can be done for 1/4 that. FM might make good stuff, but they are damn proud of their parts.
The price I have come up with is $7500-$8000 using a swap kit from either FM or BossFrog, an LS1, trans, diff, new clutch, associated exhaust and other hardware. So $8,000>>>$30,000 I've started the web page for it though <G>: http://www.lightweightmiata.com/mynextcar/ A V8 Miata with hard top and fender flares (or same thing with big turbo) isn't on there but it goes without saying I am looking into it. |
Originally Posted by rmcelwee
(Post 523557)
IMHO, it would be pretty hard to do for $7500. There are a lot of little things that add up quickly. Anyway, I have really been thinking about doing an LSx Miata. I think it would be the bees knees but a huge turbo would be nice too. It really kills me that if I spent the big $$$ to do a V8 I still wouldn't be faster than what Beast was with just a small turbo. I still have 2 years before I start my next project so I have some time to figure out what I am really going to do.
I've started the web page for it though <G>: http://www.lightweightmiata.com/mynextcar/ A V8 Miata with hard top and fender flares (or same thing with big turbo) isn't on there but it goes without saying I am looking into it. I've sources LS1 and T-56's with under 40k miles for ~$2200, Ford 8.8 plus a rebuild and r&p for around $1000, both halves of the FM kit around $4000, and I have a bit of a hook up on the other little bits and pieces. So the major components are around $7200. I would also do suspension while I was at it, so it likely will be over $10k by the time it's done. I also don't like to cut any corners, an extra $1000 doesn't bother me to have peace of mind. People without a hook up will probably spend $10k realistically. I'll probably retire the car to strip down within the year. Actual build will be quite lengthy I'm sure. A lot of time spent in build progress. Then again, I'm known to start a project, then sell it and start on something else. I have yet to sell a car for even 1/3 of what I had into it. I'm smart like that. I think I will stick this one out though, I have nearly learned that lesson. My last car had about $8000 into it, and I sold it for $2700. That was about half of my Miata. |
that 7500 is more like 10k to do. which is still a far cry from 30
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 523576)
that 7500 is more like 10k to do. which is still a far cry from 30
"People without a hook up will probably spend $10k realistically." :loser: |
And so would you. Its easy to plan this shit out when you're sitting there making a list based off shit you see other people do. When it comes down to doing it yourself, suddenly even with all your "hook ups" you're still spending more than expected.
But you wouldn't know that:giggle: Or would you? |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 523590)
And so would you. Its easy to plan this shit out when you're sitting there making a list based off shit you see other people do. When it comes down to doing it yourself, suddenly even with all your "hook ups" you're still spending more than expected.
But you wouldn't know that:giggle: Or would you? But again, I like to drop a few grand into it, then sell it and start over. Someone will be getting a Miata rolling chassis with bolted in LS1 for $2800 in about 2 years when I throw up my hands. :bowrofl: |
So do it then. And prove me wrong. Otherwise you're just a keyboard fucking warrior.
I thought my shit would cost me 2k TOPS to boost and make quick. I have the tools, I have hookups on parts, I have fabrication skills, all that shit. And guess what? I STILL cost wayyyy more than I projected. And this with a simple turbo setup (well not THAT simple anymore but whatever). You're talking about stuffing a completely different driveline into a completely different car. Seems so simple right? WRONG Most of the time that kind of shit happens. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 523599)
So do it then. And prove me wrong. Otherwise you're just a keyboard fucking warrior.
I thought my shit would cost me 2k TOPS to boost and make quick. I have the tools, I have hookups on parts, I have fabrication skills, all that shit. And guess what? I STILL cost wayyyy more than I projected. And this with a simple turbo setup (well not THAT simple anymore but whatever). You're talking about stuffing a completely different driveline into a completely different car. Seems so simple right? WRONG Most of the time that kind of shit happens. |
I believe SanginAIDS and I are the kings of "unaware factor." I think he and I have broken everything which can be broken.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 523628)
I believe SanginAIDS and I are the kings of "unaware factor." I think he and I have broken everything which can be broken.
I have shit luck with cars, but you guys take the cake, and somehow still keep on ticking. I would have gotten pissed and quit long ago. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 523628)
I believe SanginAIDS and I are the kings of "unaware factor." I think he and I have broken everything which can be broken.
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FM is charging 30K
How much is Nathan "swaptastic" charging? |
I still can't believe the fact that some of you would take a dogde viper over a Ferrari, that's just retarded.
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So, $30k plus a really nice NB as a starter... so, you're talking close to $40k in the end? If you must have a roadster, you can get a fully optioned Factory 5 Cobra with all the trimmings and built smallblock. Shit, I think you can get one turnkey for that!
Every one of these cars is for sale on CobraCountry for under $40k, and there are about a dozen more I didn't link: http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...odabasi-tx.jpg http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...n-blue-al4.jpg http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...ra-hall-ca.jpg |
Speaking of all things Cobra-ish, what's Corky charging for a CB/1?
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 523773)
Speaking of all things Cobra-ish, what's Corky charging for a CB/1?
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 523773)
Speaking of all things Cobra-ish, what's Corky charging for a CB/1?
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Comparing a boneyard LS1 and T56 with 40k miles to a factory zero mile warrantied LS3, brand new warrantied t56, brand new clutch/flywhee/wiring harness/PCMl is a bit retarded. Sorta like comparing Corky's Garrett 2871 at $1300 to an ebay Chinacharger at $300.
Newsflash. It's a lot of fucking labor. Take out dash. Cut firewall. Weld firewall. Mod trans tunnel. Wiring. More wiring. Some more wiring. Heat shrink. Solder. Fab. I have no interest in a non-convertible Viper. Sure I've saved a bunch of labor over FM's offering, but I'm not done yet and it's been almost a fucking year. Hell, if I could do it over, I'd probably just buy v8roadsters Moose which they're selling for $26500 with a freshly rebuilt LS6/t56. Some people's time is worth more than others. Frank |
Originally Posted by fmowry
(Post 523828)
Comparing a boneyard LS1 and T56 with 40k miles to a factory zero mile warrantied LS3, brand new warrantied t56, brand new clutch/flywhee/wiring harness/PCMl is a bit retarded. Sorta like comparing Corky's Garrett 2871 at $1300 to an ebay Chinacharger at $300.
Newsflash. It's a lot of fucking labor. Take out dash. Cut firewall. Weld firewall. Mod trans tunnel. Wiring. More wiring. Some more wiring. Heat shrink. Solder. Fab. I have no interest in a non-convertible Viper. Sure I've saved a bunch of labor over FM's offering, but I'm not done yet and it's been almost a fucking year. Hell, if I could do it over, I'd probably just buy v8roadsters Moose which they're selling for $26500 with a freshly rebuilt LS6/t56. Some people's time is worth more than others. Frank So... what's left on your project? |
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