GOOOAAAALLLLL!!!!! and win

My hat's off to you!

What a game!

Well done USA!

You guys rock!

This is the first time you guys qualify to the next round. Hell; it's the first time you guys don't lose the last game!

You deserve it. You're first in your group too over England!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never give up.

Hmm you're wrong. In 2002 USA made it to the round of 16, where they beat mexico 2-1. Then moved on to lose 1-0 against germany in the round of 8.

What a fucking game.

uhh...lol wut?

I think you're thinking of Argentina.

EDIT: And they lost to Germany in a shootout after 1-1 in regulation and overtime. This was after also playing overtime against Mexico but avoiding the shootout. Host country went to the quarterfinals due to the only part of soccer I really don't like (besides lack of ref accountability). The PKs can go either way, and don't really determine the best team.

England also went home in the same round, same fashion.


EDIT 2: I actually hated to see the WC won on penalty kicks.

Bro what the fuck are you talking about? There was no 1-1. Germany won 1-0, look it up. I just remember USA also made the second round (16ths) in 1994, when they were hosting the world cup.

You're partially right. in 2002 USA did indeed move on to the round of 16 but they had never won the third game of qualifying (nor had they tied one either).

BTW, I've missed your comments after Honduras loss to Spain :giggle:

Here you go you bunch of ignorant sons of bitches. The fartest USA has made it was to the round of 8th (quater-finals)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/worldcu...n=2002&cc=5901

EDIT: Damon there were no "shootout" in 2002 for USA. The score in the Mexico game was 2-0

EDIT for Rafa: What can I say they played like pussies, and the coach fucked up AGAIN by letting Guevara play, and making bitcth subs. It was a long shot to win, but we could've at least played better.

Oh fuck, I read 2006. The mention of Germany as host should have given that away though.

Tu mamá es una santa pero tú eres un hijo de puta :giggle:

BTW, I love you:makeout:

Imposible, si fuera haci fuera tu hermano. :D

hehehehe! :fawk:

:makeout:

It will be sweet for USA to play Germany again in quate-finals.

Germany would also have to win group, and D is as up in the air as we were. I hope we end up against Serbia or Ghana this round, and take Germany in quarters too. But then we eventually get buttfucked by Argentina after they wipe their asses with the Central Americans in their path.

stoppage time is real time

Im not worried about Argengays. They have yet to play a really competitive team. By that I dont mean Mexico will be. At this point Idk how I feel about that game, I hate both just as much.

In the case Argentina goes through, I hope that so does Ururguay. I think they would want a re-match to the last qualifier game they lost to the Argenfags.

Nuh-uh, the ref just imagines it.

It is real time, but distorted by the ref's perception of time.

timeouts are for sissy sports!

No comment please.

Italy :facepalm: :cry:

Yeah. It's incredible to see what the Europeans are doing in this World Cup. Both 2006 finalists were sent home and either Germany or England are next to say goodbye (if not Spain tomorrow). I don't see any European team reaching the finals this time around. Wow!

The more I watch the USA the more I like that team. Bradley is a really good coach and he's doing an excellent job.

Sorry Oscar. Maybe I'll join you soon.

At this point is anyone's cup really. There's no marginal difference between teams.

Such a dissappointment...worst world cup i have watched. Every team that is good and supposed to win loses and the shit random teams win. I was rooting for USA, but they also lost :(

Deutschland über alles! That was quite a strong showing against England.

Yep.

2010 is not the year of the quality ref, though I can see how they didn't see that goal from where the LJ was.

Is a conspiracy.

Fucking-a Alexis Lalas is such an idiot :crx:

That was a raping.

Fantastic control of the field by Germany.

Omg bad call with mexico and argentina, I thought the england goal was worse though. But it looks like theres about to be a fight lol.


Lol @ Alexis Lalas "sometimes if a team does good, doesn't mean you keep the coach" "he's a good coach but even if a team does good doesn't mean you'll stay with the same leader"

I guess he doesn't like Bob Bradley


My money would be on Argentina for this World Cup.

Lalas is like Hugo Sanchez, talks shit about everyone and everything. Bradley did a good job, USA needs a better striker. The US misses A LOT.

Argentina had trouble getting over Mexico. The first goal is a clear offside and then that gift form Osorio just destroyed the Mexicans. I dont think Argentina will beat Germany. In my opinion they have been extremely lucky till now.

Lucky? Argentina has been raping every team they play, maybe you need to go back and watch the games again. IMO Argentina vs Uruguay will be the final.

Maybe you should really watch the games. What team did Argentina rape? Korea? cause that game was won with an own goal, an offside, and two counters in the last ten minutes of the game when Korea was all over it and about to tie. Mexico? I saw the game very even, then the goal in offside, then that error by Osorio. After that the Mexicans were done.

They have been fortunate. I dont think they will run with the same fortune against Germany

I just can't get over how much the calls are affecting the games....and that's just the one's that directly affect scoring. Questionable fouls are to be expected, but the rash of poor calls giving and taking goals has been unreal. I do think they need to look at replays for scoring...even MLB does this now. Let the refs do the calls on the field for play, but leave scoring opportunities to the plethora of technology we now have.

Yes, in both cases yesterday there were more goals than the bad call, so technically they weren't game deciding calls like the US-Slovenia deal, but you can't argue that those kind of travesties don't play a BIG part in the mental game. While I still feel like the better teams won yesterday, the better team in any match comes down to a lot more than skill and tactics, including drive and heart, which are affected by luck and arbitration.

Mexico started playing sloppy and with less heart after that horrid and apparent offside goal. Tell me how Dempsey was offside against Algeria but Tevez wasn't in this case. Osorio's bobble would likely not have happened if they hadn't been so upset about the unfair call (of course it also wouldn't have happened if he wasn't in the game, both him and Bautista are worthless).

England was well on their way back, but was robbed of an equalizer right before the half. Anyone that's watched more than 5 matches knows how important it is to go into the half tied on a comeback, and what being ahead after 45 does for the winner. Any ref with a mild understanding of the physics of the game would know that hitting the crossbar on the underside will put backspin on the ball, and that if it touches both ground and bar twice it was surely on the other side of the line once. The look on Neuer's face was enough to tell you he was waiting on a favorable call, and that he wasn't crediting himself with the save.

EDIT: Also, I feel that the US does need to learn how to finish better, but it looked like they almost didn't care anymore Saturday. I'm not making excuses for them, but if 33% of your goals in a tournament have been called back, what kind of value do you put on the reward for good finishing? /EDIT

Our household teams are out. I can't root for Argentina after yesterday. I used to have respect for them, but between Messi not raising his hand and Maradona being a little bitch after the game that is gone. Sportsmanship should go along with excellence. Good thing Germany will absolutely put them on their asses. They're playing some magnificent ball, and Argentina has been coasting through like the bright lazy kid that sits at the back of the class.

I guess I'm up in the air between rooting for Germany and Spain, but like Uruguay and Portugal if they make it through. Of course I never mind watching the Brazilians.

Glad to see that Poland is doing well in the World Cup. We're doing all the scoring for Germany.

hehehe, so true Artie. And Turkey is serving them their goals :giggle:

Germany has a long tradition of employing gastarbeiter (guest workers) for menial labor. Although some were known for participating in a less than voluntarily capacity in the past.

I loled at the first game when Cacau also scored. Most of the talent in Germany is foreing :giggle:

Damon, I think both calls yesterday dictated the result of the game. If England's goal had not been nuled, Capello would not have come out so offensive looking to tied the game. England would've definetely been more careful, specially knowing how deadly the fucking Germans are countering.

In Mexico's case, although I hate them lets call what fair, they were all over Argentina. That goal was not even questionable. Things like that bring down a teams psycology, specially when there's a sense that the other team is "better". Then came that error, and that was the game.

Maradona is a faggo t.

Many of those came from Spain also after WWII.

I was thinking of when they conquered Poland and made the Poles and Jews work at forced labor in their factories and later the camps. And more recently there have been thousands of Turks move there in the last 25 years to work voluntarily. A buddy and I got jumped by a group of about twelve Turks in Germany but that is another story...

Please, do tell.

I get it shooter. I was just saying that Spaniards had had to emigrate to Germany too. The Turks are a completely different matter for Germans.

Soccer is the worst sport to watch, what a bunch of fucking pussies.

I don't know man, it looks easy on TV...but I've played in some of the advanced leagues around here and it's definitely a sport that requires balls.

I know you do worse in hockey, but it's with pads...trying running at break neck speed, take a flying leap midstride, and throw yourself straight at the ground. Then get back up and run another 5 miles, taking a break every mile to throw yourself on the ground again. Oh, and cover your man and try to score.



I really used to not like soccer, and picked it up pretty late in life. Once you play a little, learn some of the tactics and how an attack builds it's a really great sport. Best part is you sit down and get absorbed into the game. No commercials, no downs, just the flow of a battle for each goal which can come in the 4th minute or the 91st...or never, which sucks.

Playing is even more fun, and easy to get into. If someone shows you how to do an open footed pass you're set.

Now hockey, there's a sport I don't get for shit...

No, I like soccer. I play it all the time now that I am agile again. I don't like the diving, crying, complaining, and horrible officiating. Like WTF, is it really that hard to have a back goal judge sitting behind the goal, or even video replay, after all, it is 2010.

And these professional "atheletes" seem to fall over very easy and grab their ankle everytime, how is that professional or sportsmanlike at all. Hockey has a penalty for diving, we don't fuck around.

Yeah, the diving is beyond getting old. Expect to see a lot of that going on in the Spain-Portugal game today.

Officiating has been abnormally poor this time around.

I think the world stage sometimes brings out the worst of the above two. I try and catch a couple of Dynamo (MLS) games each season, and it's nice to sit and watch in person, with hardly any dives, heck, hardly any fouls, good officiating, and some decent play. Things only get ugly during the playoffs.



There's supposed to be a ref meeting with FIFA later this week in which they may discuss video replay. I don't want to see it in every aspect of the game, just scoring. Even major league baseball is using it for that now. I simply don't understand how you can be willing to call back goals in the lowest scoring sport on the planet (besides golf, which can go negative). I mean, you've got more Americans than ever tuned in and excited, and we sit around waiting for the 1.75 goals/game we score, and you're going to have the nerve to call back nearly 1/3 of them? No wonder no one here gets the sport. Dumb calls just put US soccer interest back at least 8yrs...hell, I think we cared more in 2002.

While I agree about somesort of video assistance for balls that may or may not have passed the goal line completely, it's BS to do so to keep the US audience interested. 1.75 goal per game average or not.

I never said to do it for the US audience, and I regret that my post may have carried that tone. I was making an observation of what is a very obvious poor outcome of these calls in regards to my home audience...which does matter to me.

Soccer needs it...period. I'm watching the world cup, and in 4 games that I've personally watched, a called back, uncalled, or offside goal was the biggest issue.

I was relating this to the main gripe of US soccer fans, that there simply isn't enough scoring. American sports range from baseball with the lowest scores, still averaging at least double a soccer match, to football, averaging five times that, and then basketball, which is an order and half magnitude greater.

US audience or not, the goal situation is bad for soccer fans. No one wants to see a game pivot on a bad call...and I think I discussed how important those goals are to the course of a game, despite the final score, in an earlier post.

Is called being smart, and using all you can take to your advantage. If Im in the position in which getting a free-kick is a better option than try to take two or three defender I would look for contact. Any free-kick within 20m is half a goal. There's penalties for diving, if you dont know how to create the situation then you will most likely get caught. With that said Ronaldo is still the biggest pussy ever and he over does it.

FIFA will never approve the camera review. This is not Baseball, or Failball where theres a play everyother 5 minutes. Replays will kill the game. Say that it was ruled to be implemented then in the England game Capello would have have to call a "challenge" or a "review". Then the refs would have to stop the game and review the fucking play, there will have to be more people involved other that the referees to avoid bias calls. Then a decision will be made, by the time all that shit happens you already lost 5 minutes. The players lose rythim, and the sport becomes another boring shit like Baseball, or Failball (flame-suit on)

I think Human error makes is more interesting. I have been in both sides of the play. I've taken goals from the inside of the goal, and is has been done to me. I've hit, and gotten hit and not get a call.

Really is not like the USA is a fucking super power in football. The sport has been more than fine without it. I think someone is just trying to sell gringos some shirts and tickets.

Soccer would be awesome if it had fighting and power plays. Oh and if it was on ice. And if they used a frozen rubber puck instead of an inflated ball. Shrink the nets, and give all the players sticks, too. Then it would be pretty cool.

If you want to see more fighting watch Central and South American football. Sometimes the players get it on with the fans. :cool:

It's soccer so that makes it hooliganism. In hockey we just have enthusiastic fans.

Americans don't care much about soccer because they have other choices.

Is interesting that some have brought that up as if there's nothing else but football in other countries.

there's cricket and rugby?

I'm just coming in this thread to point out that South Africa had the opportunity to shine on the world stage, and now all everyone knows about them is:



kthxbai

Edit - Okay so vuvuzelas aren't ALL we know about South Africa. There was apartheid too. And Johannesburg (sp?) has the highest carjacking rate in the world or something. Great country, that South Africa.

It's going down right now. Winner takes all I think.

They cant "Rig" the game with instant replay! Thats why they dont want it. There's a lot of money exchanging hands in the WC. Which means...Payoffs!

It's like Detroit but without all of the federal assistance money. Yeah, those South Africans have done wonderful things with the place since the locals took over. All of the business and industry left because all of the people that managed foreign corporation offices were having their families terrorized, beaten, raped, and robbed by the sweet innocent locals. Now all the locals can find for their AIDS infested asses is menial labor and subsistence living. I watched a documentary filmed in 2007 called "Stayin' Alive in Jo-burg" and most of the high-rise buildings you see in the wide shots of the city have no water, electricity, and sanitation. They are full of squatters who moved in after the owners fled. They throw feces and garbage down the non-functional elevator shafts and the aroma fills the buildings. No one ever cleans it up and the shafts have been filling up for years.

Pay attention New Jersey. This is what happens when you drive away those who are actually paying the taxes.

this thread is about soccer, not whitey's colonialism.