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miataspeed2005 11-14-2009 06:20 PM

Ooops I thought you said brain not Brian. Damn that really sucks, didn't he just build it too?

Mach929 11-14-2009 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 482537)
Anyone wanna buy a turbo miata? Has built in smoke screen to escape the police....

sucks big time, the dyno graph or my ears didn't notice any detonation, nor did your knock sensor, maybe serious high egts from all that timing

y8s 11-14-2009 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed2005 (Post 482539)
Ooops I thought you said brain not Brian. Damn that really sucks, didn't he just build it too?

yup. at least he didnt spend a lot on forged pistons. doh.

disturbedfan121 11-15-2009 12:35 AM

so my car had water coming out of the BOV? how would that even happen? Its vertical lol facing down. wtf! lol

18psi 11-15-2009 02:49 AM

I'm confused as hell: did :brain: blow his motor? Or neogenesis?

saint_foo 11-15-2009 07:34 AM

Brian - sorry to see the car have a not-so-happy ending. Do you remember the AFRs? Could you possibly have run rich and wash the ring landings, or do you think it's the timing? I guess when you tear into it you'll find out.

Lars - thanks for sticking w/ him. I had to meet my wife's co-workers for dinner and take them out as a belated wedding gift. No UFC last night...just recorded it. I was rooting for you in karting, even tried to help you out by PITting Kris...:laugh:

Tom - thanks for hosting the event, the hospitality, the tied time that race (22.068!), and everything else. Your house rocks, especially that garage floor. MUST DO. Good luck w/ the car, I'm dying to see it finished.

Scott - you bastard. I think you beat my fastest time during karting.

Tim - I can't say enough great things about the turbo kit you built me. It's friggin' wonderful! I guess once we get dynotune time down here, maybe we'll tune for 15 lbs. I was extremely happy with the power delivery, design, etc. Was a teensy bit bummed that we didn't hit 300whp....but we still didn't tune on a tune, just tweaked a bit. Plus, I suck at dyno pulls. Next time I'll be better, like start at 2,200rpms in 4th, instead of 4k...

Paul - thanks for a great base tune. Above 2k rpms, the car is a beast. I hope you had fun last night...happy birthday!

Artie - great meeting you finally! Thanks for helping Paul tune.

Everyone else: great meeting you all. Scott, thanks for saving us $4 by avoiding the tollbooths.

-Ed

saint_foo 11-15-2009 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 482704)
I'm confused as hell: did :brain: blow his motor? Or neogenesis?

neogenesis. Happened shortly after we got onto I95.

Braineack 11-15-2009 10:31 AM

ArtieParty:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Braineack:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

BruceW (5.0L)
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Disturedfan121:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Mach929:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Paul's GF:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Mann (NC):
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Miataspeed2005:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Neogenesis2004:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Saint_foo:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Cspence 11-15-2009 10:39 AM

I think I like Pauls GF's, BruceW's, and Saint Foo's graphs the best...but looks like everyone is putting down some respectable numbers!:bigtu: I definitly need to get my car dyno tuned...I don't think I'm getting 100% out of it....its definitly running much richer than most of your's

miataspeed2005 11-15-2009 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 482760)
I think I like Pauls GF's, BruceW's, and Saint Foo's graphs the best...but looks like everyone is putting down some respectable numbers!:bigtu: I definitly need to get my car dyno tuned...I don't think I'm getting 100% out of it....its definitly running much richer than most of your's

all three of them are running too lean IMO 13's.
bruceW's is a N/a V8 so hes fine but the other too i wouldnt feel too comfortable with that. i like my 11.5 afr except after 6k when i drop to 10's wish i had more time to tune and make another 10-15 HP.
i had a blast tho and i will do it all over again.

neogenesis2004 11-15-2009 12:46 PM

I think it was the timing, definitely a broken ringland or 2, or 3, or 4. I drove it home making no more than 30psi oil pressure because if I got into boost it would just eject oil out of the breather and smoke out whoever was behind me. What blows my mind is that there was no ping on the dyno either heard or logged. I'm taking today off to cool down, over the next week I'm just going to do a stock rebuild of Brain's old block sitting in my garage and put that in the car, and swap the t3 60trim compressor back on. Then I'll just stick with 13-15psi to be safe and still have a fun car. Plus I need something to test my super (not so secret) WI project on.

I was very disappointed in my output, both in delivery and in total HP. I was expecting north of 275@19psi, so I think that compressor/trubine just are not a good match.

So today is pizza/football day, and I'll rebuild the motor during the week. Now to get Brain to convince his wife to let him have another Saturday off to help me swap motors....

Braineack 11-15-2009 01:03 PM

My wbo2 has never matched their readings. I was logging 11.5:1, they for the past 5 years have always read 1 point leaner, even without a cat.

Mach929 11-15-2009 02:25 PM

i wasn't holding boost and i hit 104 degrees IAT on the dyno so i need to get off my ass and get a bigger intercooler and totally redo my piping, oh and finally do my cops

mann 11-15-2009 02:34 PM

Glad I came out, it was great seeing all the FI'd miatas--sucks about the motor Brian, I filmed all your runs and I didn't hear a single ping. To be honest though all the ping my car's knock sensor has picked up I never heard either so a set of det-cans begi style is probably in order.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 482788)
My wbo2 has never matched their readings. I was logging 11.5:1, they for the past 5 years have always read 1 point leaner, even without a cat.

Their wideband must be off...I have two, my stock OEM one and an AEM and both were reading 11-11.5:1 but his graph showed 12. Everyone else seemed to be lean also as the day wore on so theirs was probably off by at least .5. I am running a cat.

miataspeed2005 11-15-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 482788)
My wbo2 has never matched their readings. I was logging 11.5:1, they for the past 5 years have always read 1 point leaner, even without a cat.

My car is reading 10.2s and his was 11.5s do you think his wb is off?

neogenesis2004 11-15-2009 02:54 PM

My money is on yes. My ecu was autotuning to 11.4 and his was reading me at like 12.5+.

the_man 11-15-2009 03:00 PM

The lack of video of the ruptured heater hose and ensuing geyser is fail. Miataspeed2005 took the faceful of coolant pretty well, though.

disturbedfan121 11-15-2009 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by the_man (Post 482842)
The lack of video of the ruptured heater hose and ensuing geyser is fail. Miataspeed2005 took the faceful of coolant pretty well, though.

he's used to a face full of other liquids:jerkit::giggle:

lol jk.

PhantomRoadster 11-15-2009 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 482785)
I think it was the timing, definitely a broken ringland or 2, or 3, or 4. I drove it home making no more than 30psi oil pressure because if I got into boost it would just eject oil out of the breather and smoke out whoever was behind me. What blows my mind is that there was no ping on the dyno either heard or logged. I'm taking today off to cool down, over the next week I'm just going to do a stock rebuild of Brain's old block sitting in my garage and put that in the car, and swap the t3 60trim compressor back on. Then I'll just stick with 13-15psi to be safe and still have a fun car. Plus I need something to test my super (not so secret) WI project on.

Do you think you had the same issue as 18psi (although he was on the base map)? He was running with the adaptronic too. Just bought it so I don't want to make the same mistake.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t40227/
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t40225/

neogenesis2004 11-15-2009 04:13 PM

I'm not running any of travis's basemaps.


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