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Bond 12-05-2009 12:07 PM

TX crew: ECR Toy Run
 
Sat, Dec 12th - Sun, Dec 13th
ECR Toy Run
Event Hours: 00:09:00 to 00:17:00

Come and join us for our 2nd ECR Toy Run. This year's event will be open to cars and bikes (bikes will be limited to 40 participants per day) and you must pre-register to attend. No walk- ons (or drive-ons) will be accepted. Cost is $50 per day. We would also like to ask that each participant bring 2 canned goods which will be donated to several area food banks. Any new and unwrapped toys will be greatly appreciated. All proceeds will go to help many needy families. Last year we were able to put a smile on many young children's faces Christmas morning and we are hoping to do the same this year. So come on out and join us! You can contact Maggie at 817-992-9774 or email at mwilliams@eaglescanyon.com to register.


We will have a mandatory drivers and riders meeting at 8:30am in the main building, track will be hot at 9am. Bikes: full track riding gear required. Cars: long pants, closed toe shoes, and helmets required. Gates will open at 7:30am. Previous track experience a plus.



More Info

Contact: Maggie Williams
Organization: Eagles Canyon Raceway
Link:
e-Mail: mwilliams@eaglescanyon.com
Phone: 817-992-9774

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My dad just showed me this. It seems like a good way to get on the track for cheap. Anyone interested?

hustler 12-06-2009 10:46 AM

in like muthafucking flynn.

edit: unless its cold

edit: is there anywhere to get 93octane out there yet?

Bond 12-06-2009 10:59 AM

Yes it will be cold, it's December.

and yes, they have 93 out there now.

I need some brakes before I get out there, I have this feeling my $20 Napa pads won't make it.

hustler 12-06-2009 01:09 PM

I may have some used HP+ 1.6 pads in the garage but I need a 1.6 pad to compare with, maybe they're 1.8 pads, not sure. They're the right price too.

hustler 12-06-2009 01:18 PM

negative:
Daily Weather Forecast for Lewisville, TX (75057) - weather.com

61*, looks like the R-comps are coming out. How many sessions will we get? Will they let me make a charitable donation rather than bring in toys? Money goes further than toys.

hustler 12-06-2009 07:24 PM

after speaking to Johnfag, this shit is a dangerous waste of time full of posers with open passing. I'm not wadding my shit up because of some rich dude in a Porsche who wants to pass a faggette miata.

Bond 12-06-2009 09:17 PM

Oh shit. My car needs more battle scars.

So you are out?

hustler 12-06-2009 09:32 PM

out, may do MSR instead.

Bond 12-06-2009 09:34 PM

I will probably go anyways just to see if my shit blows up. I mean for $50 dollars...why not. And I'm not too worried about getting in an accident, it should be good fun.

jeff_man 12-09-2009 12:47 PM

i'm there sunday

Machismo 12-09-2009 01:08 PM

I'll be there Sunday for support, but not running...:loser:
Car still on stands at the moment.

Bond 12-09-2009 01:32 PM

No one is doing Saturday? Guess I'm SOL getting home if my car balls up into a fiery heap of metal.

Machismo 12-09-2009 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 491771)
out, may do MSR instead.

Wait...did you say ECR or MSR last night?

Bond 12-09-2009 02:27 PM

ECR on sunday for trey I think. I'm trying to get changed to sunday aswell.

Machismo 12-09-2009 02:34 PM

That's what I thought.

hustler 12-09-2009 03:59 PM

I changed my mind again, I'm running ECR on Sunday. I'd like to do both days, buy my POS will probably break down...again.

Bond 12-09-2009 06:54 PM

I got changed to Sunday for the sake of having a ride home when all my studs inevitably fail.

hustler 12-09-2009 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 493272)
I got changed to Sunday for the sake of having a ride home when all my studs inevitably fail.

I'll give you a ride home (to the dungeon) but I've spend enough money on v-bands that it will be a cold day in hell before I touch a stud again. lol They're like kryptonite.

Bond 12-10-2009 03:11 AM

My dad is gonna bring the TT, his friend is bringing a C4 ZR1, and other friend a Renault 5 turbo. I'm thinking this is gonna be like lemons racing. Mass chaos.

jeff_man 12-10-2009 01:27 PM

only fear is sunday will be to packed at this rate.

hustler 12-10-2009 01:53 PM

I hope not. I won't get on the track if its scary. How many sessions do we get, and how many cars on track?

Bond 12-10-2009 01:59 PM

I would think they would try to keep this pretty safe. Maybe 30-35 cars on track? Two groups and a bike group maybe 4-5 25 min. sessions.

Who knows?

hustler 12-10-2009 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 493686)
I would think they would try to keep this pretty safe. Maybe 30-35 cars on track? Two groups and a bike group maybe 4-5 25 min. sessions.

Who knows?

I'm just out there to learn the track since I'm competing in MC this season. It should be fun and I'm throwing tax-deductible ching-dow down for charity.

jacob300zx 12-11-2009 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 491767)
Oh shit. My car needs more battle scars.

So you are out?

Awesome, you running MC next year?

Bond 12-11-2009 02:52 PM

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No my car is a DD. I go to school and work so the miata is mainly street. Just doing this track event for fun. I am going to try to run my 125 shifter with SWRA this year, Formula ford in CVAR, and lemons. Plus my car is a POS beater, one of the fenders looks like it is made out of paper mache. lol

"Just whoring."

-Hustler (dad)

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jeff_man 12-11-2009 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 494350)
No my car is a DD. I go to school and work so the miata is mainly street. Just doing this track event for fun.

so your in the same boat at hustler but with out the 100K price tag :giggle:

hustler 12-12-2009 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 494526)
so your in the same boat at hustler but with out the 100K price tag :giggle:

Is your powercard still changing AFR with bumps and turns? http://smiliesftw.com/x/cece_ugh_penis.gif

jeff_man 12-12-2009 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 494563)
Is your powercard still changing AFR with bumps and turns? http://smiliesftw.com/x/cece_ugh_penis.gif

sure is, love it that way, it's like a box of chocolate, you never know what afr your going to get :fawk:

think i'm going to try the blow off valve with throttle body back on the intake side rather then the back of the super charger

Bond 12-13-2009 02:15 AM

Save the shit talking for the track mother fuckers.

Why is there a kid telling me he has driven a Nismo tuned Honda Civic? huh?

hustler 12-13-2009 09:44 PM

That was fun.

hustler 12-13-2009 09:59 PM

I think I'm done with the skinnies. However, it had to be great to see a green miata with a big dent, skinny, heinous wheels screwed up with brake dust and brake-fluid shoe prints. lol

The best part of the day...I never had to put a wrench on the car. The powerplant was flawless. John Day builds a hell of a motor, Tim Fodor builds great hot-parts, and Trey is a badass tuner for simple engine management.

Bond 12-13-2009 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 495099)
I think I'm done with the skinnies. However, it had to be great to see a green miata with a big dent, skinny, heinous wheels screwed up with brake dust and brake-fluid shoe prints. lol

The best part of the day...I never had to put a wrench on the car. The powerplant was flawless. John Day builds a hell of a motor, Tim Fodor builds great hot-parts, and Trey is a badass tuner for simple engine management.

Very fun day. My first time ever to go miatating on track.

Things I learned:

1. Do not expect stock brakes to stop you for more than 10 minutes if driving hard.

2. Never try to run all-season tyres on the track. Fucking brutal.

3. I want a spec boxter.

I wish they would do more of these type of events. It is cheap, fun, and a good way to get on the track. Though not as awesome as "real racing", I can still say I had a good time finding the limits of my car.

It was also good to see Trey not blow his shit up. And I'm pretty sure johnwags was going quicker than me despite the power difference.

All in all, pretty damn good track event for $50. Can't beat that.

johnwag 12-14-2009 12:23 AM

Bond, all you need is good tires and brakes and you could have pushed it alot harder. All i have is suspension, lightness and skillzzzz

Bond 12-14-2009 12:35 AM

My problem is Racecar>Miata. Drive a Formula Ford and you will understand.

Or I need more money to dump into miataing..

hustler 12-14-2009 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by johnwag (Post 495164)
Bond, all you need is good tires and brakes and you could have pushed it alot harder. All i have is suspension, lightness and skillzzzz

..and AIDZ.

Bond,
I'll let you use my 205 nt-01s if you want, I'm about done with them. The tires are free and you can rent the wheels. lol

Machismo 12-14-2009 10:41 AM

Bond - didn't get a chance to introduce myself to ya. But the "white" car was noticed by a few of the lookers for sure! Nice drivin' by all. Time to get mine off the jack stands...

johnwag 12-15-2009 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 495171)
My problem is Racecar>Miata. Drive a Formula Ford and you will understand.

Is this an invitation to drive a Formula Ford?

jacob300zx 12-15-2009 01:42 PM

Take Hustlers old nt01's and get some cheap track pads and come play. If you have 1.8 brakes I might be able to get you some 1 track day left yellow stuffs.

Bond 12-15-2009 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by johnwag (Post 495741)
Is this an invitation to drive a Formula Ford?

We should make it a three-way. I'll take hustlers car.

hustler 12-15-2009 05:47 PM

bring your sister, lol.

Bond 12-16-2009 09:59 AM

Only if I get to run it at 18 psi.

hustler 12-16-2009 04:26 PM

let me think about it.

Jeff, thanks for the tips on how to enter #4, but if I don't brake there I won't stay on the track.

jeff_man 12-16-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 496445)
let me think about it.

Jeff, thanks for the tips on how to enter #4, but if I don't brake there I won't stay on the track.

you do brake but you just need a stab, i shit my self the first time but started up shifting out of 3 and running 4th gear from 3s out to 5s in with a stab at 4. also you have to turn in WAY early. your 3.63 you could stay in 3ed i bet but i was out of gear in 3ed where you are braking.

hustler 12-16-2009 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by jeff_man (Post 496468)
you do brake but you just need a stab, i shit my self the first time but started up shifting out of 3 and running 4th gear from 3s out to 5s in with a stab at 4. also you have to turn in WAY early. your 3.63 you could stay in 3ed i bet but i was out of gear in 3ed where you are braking.

The first time you shit yourself was because I was on an outlap with cold brakes and cold rubber. I'm also on Hawk blues with cold rubber which lock-up super-easy when cold, so maybe you should consider that when you're correcting my driving. How exactly should I drive on my outlap? Wad $20k up in a ball, or get tires and brakes hot?

#4 is a 4th gear corner for me, #5 is 3rd; my gears are shorter than yours. I was entering #4 at over 100mph, it's more than changing the direction of the car if I want to stay on the track. With door bars, there is no more turning in early because it whips around the rear of the car. I have 1.5" skinnier wheels on a 205 tire, another 100lb/ft of torque, and the rear is super-stiff now...so I'm sorry dude, you're absolute fucking wrong that I'm going to hit that corner or just about any other faster from fear of the car trying to kill me. I'll get the car set-up so I can drive it without a diaper on, hopefully in my 3rd session, maybe before the first hour of seat-time at that track.

I have roughly 25-minutes of seat time on that track, with a car that feels vastly different each time I drive it. Please, fucking relax on criticizing my shit.

spoolin2bars 12-17-2009 12:20 AM

sounded more like a tip than criticism. no need to get so testes over it.

hustler 12-17-2009 09:01 AM

Well I don't need tips on how to do a fucking outlap.

jeff_man 12-17-2009 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 496782)
Well I don't need tips on how to do a fucking outlap.

i just didn't added it the first lap when i saw it the first time on the video. just for you i moved it to the 1st hot lap. it's my opinion based on when an instructor told me out there. you don't have to lessen to it or use it. everyone has there own way of driving and i know if i flashed my lights you would have let me by if i felt i was being held up at all even if you would just eat me down a straightaway.

hustler 12-17-2009 12:13 PM

You don't get it. I don't give a fuck-shit if you have the outlap on video, I think its fucking stupid that you expect me to heave the car off the track at 100mph because an instructor told you not to brake there because...and now I get a bunch of instructors on the local board sticking me back in the novice group on the next event because we've filmed a video of me learning a track, playing with lines, and I get to climb the god damn ladder again and waste my time in horse-shit lead/follow crap every fucking time I show up at the track.

Sometimes I wish I never built this car because of all the god damn expectations to incessantly run lap records on outlaps or I get incessant criticism. Too bad we didn't post any vids where green miata was mowing down the field driving the line provided by Ken O, which I quickly discovered was not always the fastest way around the track. I can't wait to get yanked out of the adult groups in Apex because of this shit that's thrown up in the school-Illuminati.

Machismo 12-17-2009 01:04 PM

I know Wags was with you on one of the sessions; don't know if it was the video in question or not. I will say that trying different lines and learning the car would not have been more than ideal than this event. It was not an HPDE or a Miata Challenge. I don't remember you having to wash the mud off or having to fix a busted front end from hitting a hay bail. Others there did just that and where do they stand? I believe both had more seat time than you and I put together X 10.
I don't see anyone telling them how drive (critiquing)... just saying.
Dad used to instruct for LSRPCA - I've asked which part of the track has he gone off at. His response was "Every f***ing corner!"

jeff_man 12-17-2009 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Machismo (Post 496888)
I don't remember you having to wash the mud off or having to fix a busted front end from hitting a hay bail.

i can't believe i went from going off once or twice a session to touching only pavement all day just from getting the flexes set right

Machismo 12-17-2009 01:41 PM

It definately showed a difference. He He...

hustler 12-17-2009 02:00 PM

I can't believe my skill level went from moderately decent to ------ novice who cant' drive around the track without a daddy in the passenger seat or getting stuck in lead/follow. Its wild how while everyone gets better I get slower and slower to the point of shame. Who wants to buy a turbo miata?

Machismo 12-17-2009 02:11 PM

Like my 4 yr. old boy told me once..."I do know everything, I just don't see too well." ;)

hustler 12-17-2009 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Machismo (Post 496934)
Like my 4 yr. old boy told me once..."I do know everything, I just don't see too well." ;)

Yeah, well I've had no problem running the top tier groups for 3-years, now I'm relegated to the ------ shit again and so much for Texas Miata Challenge...all because of this fucking bullshit.

Bond 12-17-2009 02:22 PM

me.

But seriously d00d just relax as long as your having fun it doesn't really matter. And any "Instuctor" who sees you braking at turn 4 on the outlap must obviously know that it was fucking outlap, not qualifying at Monaco. I doubt with your track resume that you will be put in "lead and follow" group again. For a first time at ECR you did fine.

It seems like these "track day" guys all have something to prove. I think it's stupid. Everyones car is different out there. If they wanted to test their driver skill against each other, then race SM or another spec class.

This guy in nice Carrera came over to my pit telling my dad that he needs to stick his arm completely out the window to signal a pass. His response was "In REAL RACING, you don't stick your arm out the window, you either have a window net or arm restraints". Why would you want your arm 2 feet out of your car on the track? That is how arms get chopped off during roll overs.

Machismo 12-17-2009 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 496935)
Yeah, well I've had no problem running the top tier groups for 3-years, now I'm relegated to the ------ shit again and so much for Texas Miata Challenge...all because of this fucking bullshit.

Wasn't directed TO you man...just FOR you. Bench racing BS goes on all the time, but BS stops at the track. That shouldn't keep you from running in whatever group you feel comfortable in running in. It is the Steward's responsibility to see this and put you where you should be, not some dude watching a video...
What the hell do I know, I was just spectacting. It's not like I didn't get to see a ton of d-bags doing d-bag moves anyways.
I don't think any of this should negate as to where you should be placed. Hell, Gary had to run Novice because he had never been to ECR before...

jacob300zx 12-17-2009 03:14 PM

Hustler just needs a pep talk every other week. I hope your not mad that I called you. We never even spoke of your driving, just how to make that beast handle better. Explain to me why you would be in a lead follow now that someone watched that video? All I see is a car that's suspension setup needs work. If they move you around because of a shakedown vid at an unfamiliar track, thats just more of a reason to run NASA. Bring your driving resume, get a instructor to ride with on the first session, and bam HPDE 4 or TT. I swear if I here you say your not running Texas Miata Challenge again were going to vote to have you get a +1 shown on your results for being a girl...

EDIT: Oh and by the way this is the whole reason for the TMC. Everyone as a pool helps everyone get faster. I think JZ helped 3 guys set their suspension up correctly for the rain as they all had it set to full stiff thinking it was full soft. I also think a couple of them had 40ish psi too. Rookie mistakes but knowone cared as were all trying to get faster.

hustler 12-17-2009 04:00 PM

All you ------s can die of aids in a turkish prison. Have fun picking my shit apart and lapping the sweat off my balls. With any fucking luck you'll be able to keep with me on my out-lap but you'll certainly get skull-fucked by lap 2.

Bond 12-17-2009 04:03 PM

Put the 6uls on and quit being a bitch.

Machismo 12-17-2009 04:05 PM

Now that's Hustler we've all come to love and remember. Keep that mindset and you'll be fine...
And quit hanging out where ever it is that puts you in these "Moods".


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