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Old 01-14-2013, 03:31 PM   #41
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it ugly, but it has lost a lot of the Corvette character. If you removed all the badges, I would find it easy to believe it was from Ferrari or Lambo or someone else. It's too "generic supercar" for my tastes.
I assume it's because they have learned a lot from endurance racing. It looks "generic supercar" because there are only so many ways to skin a cat. The headlights look like 458 headlights because (I assume) they are designed to flow air around the side mirrors.

As for the rear end, I assume that is also ugly for aerodynamic reasons.
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I'm sorry to hear about your gross elitism. A good 70% of america couldn't afford this car, even used.

I DO agree it offers GREAT price to performance ratio though.
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I think he wqas joking. I'm not exactly poor. Just exceedingly cheap. Braineack *2.
Yeah, I was kidding. Thus the second half of the sentence in which I described "a family or a home or retirement savings" as frivilous.

I would argue with you about your second sentence, though. A 10-year old used Corvette in average condition is about $15k. The average price of a new car sale has hit $30k in recent times. I am not sure how to find the average price of a used car, but the average price in 2011 for a one to three year old trade in was about $23k according to KBB.


I can't remember if Roger is the guy that daily drives a Geo Metro, but I am sure it is more about not ever being able to justify the purchase of a Corvette versus being able to afford the purchase. I can totally respect that, by the way.
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Geo Metro? Sheesh, I do have a tiny shred of self respect left.

No, I drive a 10 year old P.O.S. Jeep, because I'm too cheap to buy anything newer/better. I also need something that will tow the camper we bought a while back.

Funny, I used to own a 'vette. 1977. What a pig. But it looked cool, I was young, and the chicks liked it. Sold it for what I paid for it, 10k and 3 years later.
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I can't remember if Roger is the guy that daily drives a Geo Metro, but I am sure it is more about not ever being able to justify the purchase of a Corvette versus being able to afford the purchase. I can totally respect that, by the way.
I think you are talking about Robert (red lightning).

I normally hate new cars, but I love the looks of this car. I will probably never justify buying a car over $20,000, but this makes me want to loosen the restraint on that wallet a little.
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Speaking of rcmpeewe (or whatever his name is) in addition to the metros he has a LS1 miata
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I think he sold it a little while ago.
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Funny, I used to own a 'vette. 1977. What a pig. But it looked cool, I was young, and the chicks liked it. Sold it for what I paid for it, 10k and 3 years later.
Fun fact: I also owned a Corvette when I was younger. It was a good performer, I liked the targa and the hatch was surprisingly practical. I drove it for about a year and also sold mine for about what I paid for it. I think it was about 5-6 years old.
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SO UGGllyy

I can't wait to see the videos of these being eff'ed up by stupid with money.
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Bah, you hate everything.
Negative. I don't dislike the car. I'm sure it will be very promising on the track and the street (not to mention I can't wait to see it on Top Gear so Jeremy can make more **** up about why it sucks because of it's place of origin).

I've always loved 'vettes because they were fast, relatively inexpensive and very pretty. Well, not anymore. The new 'vette is hideous (my opinion, of course). The car looks so much like "everything else" that it's disappointing, and almost to the point of being expected. Yes, the majority of new cars are shockingly hideous.
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Negative. I don't dislike the car. I'm sure it will be very promising on the track and the street (not to mention I can't wait to see it on Top Gear so Jeremy can make more **** up about why it sucks because of it's place of origin).
He really liked the ZR1.

But. Does it have to be so huge? The C5s and C6s were not small cars. This one has a longer wheelbase and wider track.

C2s are about the size of a miata. GM continues to build the Corvette for the people who are buying them (50+ who remember the C2s new) instead of for the people buying GT-R's.

I like this car, but I wish it were smaller. I look at it and think "LT1 swap zomg"
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He really liked the ZR1.
You didn't see the follow up did you? Skip to 4:30
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Yeah, ok. He drifts the Audi and says it handles great, then drifts the ZR1 and complains about how tail happy it is, when he's obviously overdriving the car. Traction circles, yo!

Other than Hammond, they only reluctantly give praise to anything we make. It's part of the whole British "we were a global superpower once, and we're not now, and we hate it, and look at what our colonies have done" complex.

My sister-in-law currently lives near London, and mentioned a conversation at dinner the other night with her neighbors. They were all quite positive that Monopoly was invented by Britons.
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Yeah, ok.
That's why the show always erks me a bit. But, this isn't the "Jeremy is unfair to American cars thread."

Carry on with your new ugly, generic, Ferrai-vette, people.
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Does it have to be so huge? The C5s and C6s were not small cars. This one has a longer wheelbase and wider track.
Hmm. Wheelbase doesn't really tell you much about the overall dimensions. The base C6 Corvette had a length of 174.6", a width of 72.6" and a height of 49" from what I can find.

The C7 is: 177", 73.9" and 48.6" respectively. So it is a bit longer and wider, and about as low.

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C2s are about the size of a miata. GM continues to build the Corvette for the people who are buying them (50+ who remember the C2s new) instead of for the people buying GT-R's.
I don't think this is accurate. The C2 was the '63 - '67 if I have my generations correct. A '63 coupe was:

175.3", 69.6" and 49.8" according to VetteFacts.com

A 1953 C1 (the first model year, I believe) would have been:

167.0", 72.2" and 52.1"

It also cranked out 150 BHP (and 223 torques) from it's 236 CI inline six cylinder.
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My dad has had a '66 corvette in the garage for since I was born and I can tell you that it is not a small car, my miata is dwarfed by it.

and the '66 is every comparable to my pervious C5 and my current C6 in size. but you can tell that it is more narrow from mirror to mirror then the C6 (well the 66 only has one mirror #classichotrod)
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