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Laur3ns 09-29-2010 04:17 AM

Don't go rubber on a track car. Just don't. Worst $17 saved.

curly 09-29-2010 04:21 AM

Gotcha.

m2cupcar 09-29-2010 09:06 AM

All that video needs is some remote mics for audio that equals the video quality. In showroom stock we had to run a full exhaust so I ran a remote mic in my engine bay. That was the only way to get any indication of throttle since the camera couldn't pick up any engine noise from the mount point inside.

9671111 09-29-2010 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 636012)
All that video needs is some remote mics for audio that equals the video quality. In showroom stock we had to run a full exhaust so I ran a remote mic in my engine bay. That was the only way to get any indication of throttle since the camera couldn't pick up any engine noise from the mount point inside.

I've thought about trying to run Logic + firewire recording interface + condenser mic. I can't imagine that audio being less than amazing.

thesnowboarder 09-29-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by sasquatch (Post 635952)
50mm right? i searched on google to find a pic and they are showing 2 diffrent ones... what one do you have?

EDIT: just read up on it and they made a new version of it... so do you have 1 or 2?

First one, I assume its 50mm, but i honestly do not know I never measured it. However it looks identical to that one in the pic.


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 635953)
Looks good, who made it? Does it work well? You got 3" ducting along with it?

A member on here, ill get in contact with him and see if he has any interest in making more. It was sort of a favor for me, not sure if he wants to do this after his 8 hr work days. It works well enough to keep caliper temps under 300* 3"ducting is correct.


Originally Posted by curly (Post 635956)
Make me a set of these and I'll make you a switch panel for your dash like you've wanted me to do for years.

If you don't want that, would you post a drawing of it for all to see? I could whip it up in Catia and we could have an easy to make brake duct for the masses.

Edit: PS, I see you're using rubber hose for your oil cooler, I'm about to order my own lines, and could save $17 by going rubber instead of stainless steel. How are they holding up and would you of gone SS if you could have mulligan?

Heh, i ended up making my own switch panel as you can see in the video. As for the ducts, I didn't exactly make them so ill get in contact with the guy who did and see if he has any interest in making more.

The rubber lines are good for 300psi, they have been working just fine in my car for two years now. For a 17 dollar difference i would have gone with stainless lines though. I may end up changing my oil cooler setup and going with stainless lines.

My oil temps were saying 300* but my sender is in the feed line, right under the exhaust manifold. I am kinda thinking the heat from the manifold is heating up the sender. I may just change the location of the sender and see what the temps read. Oil pan is best correct?


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 636012)
All that video needs is some remote mics for audio that equals the video quality. In showroom stock we had to run a full exhaust so I ran a remote mic in my engine bay. That was the only way to get any indication of throttle since the camera couldn't pick up any engine noise from the mount point inside.

The idea is really cool to me, i enjoy having quality videos to share with you all. However the go-pros (outside views) dont have a mic input, and neither does the sony handycam that was on the inside. I would rather spend money on the car than a new camera JUST for recording better audio. I think its GE, good enough, for me.

hustler 09-29-2010 12:03 PM

How are you picking-up air for the brake ducts? I have mine in the RB vents but only running a 2.5" hose and seeing 370* caliper temp readings on my stylish Alcon temp strips. I bet Chris will build more ducts like that considering the cost of tires on his 993 (virtual) cup car.

TurboTim 09-29-2010 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 636185)
How are you picking-up air for the brake ducts? I have mine in the RB vents but only running a 2.5" hose and seeing 370* caliper temp readings on my stylish Alcon temp strips. I bet Chris will build more ducts like that considering the cost of tires on his 993 (virtual) cup car.

You're using the brakes too much.

18psi 09-29-2010 12:42 PM

Sick vid Nick.
Good stuff

hustler 09-29-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by jeffman (Post 636226)
You're using the brakes too much.

Thank you for the insight.

Machismo 09-29-2010 04:45 PM

Thanks for the kudos Nick! I really had no idea that they would be that effective, but every little bit helps. I would be glad to make some more for any interested... I will say that John Wags has modified a set I made for him to go on another customer's car; however from what I've seen thus far is that there is some modification (cutting) of the spindles to allow them to work. Mine bolt on with no modification what so ever.
These were the first prototypes ever and some tinkering with angling of the inlet will be in order for better optimizing. I don't believe Nick has any problems with routing or clearance issues, so I haven't bothered with a second edition.
Great vid and glad to have real world data - Good job my man! ;)

Savington 09-29-2010 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 636185)
How are you picking-up air for the brake ducts? I have mine in the RB vents but only running a 2.5" hose and seeing 370* caliper temp readings on my stylish Alcon temp strips. I bet Chris will build more ducts like that considering the cost of tires on his 993 (virtual) cup car.

I am putting fans in mine. Warped another set of backing plates, this time in the 6-pots at Laguna. I need more airflow.

thesnowboarder 09-29-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hustler (Post 636185)
How are you picking-up air for the brake ducts? I have mine in the RB vents but only running a 2.5" hose and seeing 370* caliper temp readings on my stylish Alcon temp strips. I bet Chris will build more ducts like that considering the cost of tires on his 993 (virtual) cup car.

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Outside (rim side) of the caliper's temp sticker is @ 350* I used 3 inch hose.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-29-2010 06:12 PM

I cant believe you hung with that Radical. Ive never driven one but Ive been out on the track with them, and theyre very quick.

curly 09-29-2010 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 636150)
Heh, i ended up making my own switch panel as you can see in the video.

Fair enough, do you plan on getting rid of the radio surround? That's why I did mine, so I could just have the dash bar uprights. Not like you're saving much weight, but it frees up some valuable space.


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 636150)
As for the ducts, I didn't exactly make them so ill get in contact with the guy who did and see if he has any interest in making more.

He doesn't necessarily need to make more, just get us a rough sketch of hole location and shape of the plate. I think all of us with an angle grinder could cut them out of a $10 sheet of steel from Home Depot, and I doubt the $5 in pipe would cost more than $20 to be welded. I'm down for $35 brake ducts.

I could also do the R&D myself, but this is MT.net, we're lazy AND cheap.

thesnowboarder 09-30-2010 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 636547)
Fair enough, do you plan on getting rid of the radio surround? That's why I did mine, so I could just have the dash bar uprights. Not like you're saving much weight, but it frees up some valuable space.



He doesn't necessarily need to make more, just get us a rough sketch of hole location and shape of the plate. I think all of us with an angle grinder could cut them out of a $10 sheet of steel from Home Depot, and I doubt the $5 in pipe would cost more than $20 to be welded. I'm down for $35 brake ducts.

I could also do the R&D myself, but this is MT.net, we're lazy AND cheap.

Machismo is who made them. I think ill leave the radio surround, i like the way the switches fit in there nicely. Gives it a rather clean look too.

Fireindc 09-30-2010 06:48 AM

Epic video. Thanks for making one with so many angles.

Machismo 09-30-2010 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 636547)

He doesn't necessarily need to make more, just get us a rough sketch of hole location and shape of the plate. I think all of us with an angle grinder could cut them out of a $10 sheet of steel from Home Depot, and I doubt the $5 in pipe would cost more than $20 to be welded. I'm down for $35 brake ducts.

I could also do the R&D myself, but this is MT.net, we're lazy AND cheap.

LOL! You know it takes 3 cents to make a penny?

hustler 09-30-2010 09:11 AM

Maybe we need to start putting air on Savington's calipers. However, I warped my 2-sets of Carbotech backing plates and I do not warp PFC-97/01 or DTC-60 backing plates.

Machismo 09-30-2010 09:17 AM

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I can do all I can do...but that is all I am going to do. :2cents:

TurboTim 09-30-2010 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 635945)

What bolt boss locations does that use? OEM dust shield?

I have lots of short sections of 3" stainless lying around. And my dad says I can take his plasma cutter, he doesn't use it anymore. I have a goodwin first gen or so BBK, not sure if that caliper location would work with what you all use. :dunno:


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