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Old 03-18-2010, 01:15 PM   #1
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The CR-Z was supposed to be the new CRX; small, lightweight, cheap, great handling. What a colossal failure this thing appears to be. 122hp, 2725lbs and it even gets the same gas mileage my 1985 CRX Si use to get, what amazing progress they've made in the past 25 years.

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This Fit-based 1.5 is no sports-car engine and starts to get loud at around 5,000 rpm. Keep the hammer down and all too soon you find the engine stuttering as it hits the ignition cutout at 6,500 rpm. Worked hard, the engine sounds flat and hard not exciting at all. And when you're on the limit rather than just pushing along, the CR-Z gives in to soggy, plowing understeer, and the body rolls over in distress. And a few hot runs up and down the hills soon had the brakes smoking. Yikes.
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What a colossal failure this thing appears to be. 122hp, 2725lbs and it even gets the same gas mileage my 1985 CRX Si use to get, what amazing progress they've made in the past 25 years
You're right, its a total disappointment that they have managed to get the same MPG in a car that weighs almost 800lbs more and makes 2x as much power. They must be retarded.....


I'll agree that it is not completely in the spirit of the original car, but the fact is that they can not make those cars anymore because your government has passed safety laws that would make it illegal. On your original points above though, I think you are retarded.
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You're right, its a total disappointment that they have managed to get the same MPG in a car that weighs almost 800lbs more and makes 2x as much power. They must be retarded.....


I'll agree that it is not completely in the spirit of the original car, but the fact is that they can not make those cars anymore because your government has passed safety laws that would make it illegal. On your original points above though, I think you are retarded.
The car weighs 350lbs more than the current Fit, makes less power than a 15 year old miata, gets 32 highway mpg less than a 2006 Insight, and apparently handles like crap. Forgive me for being disappointed.
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I agree the car is huge amounts of fail. Looks like no fun what so ever. TDI's get better mileage and are probably more fun. I'll take my 25/34 and still have fun. If this car does come out, i really don't think any one would buy it. I would be much more excited if it didn't have that electro garbage on it. My wifes 08 civic gets about 40mpg on the interstate and 28-30 in town. (30 is her driving). I think the 1.8 vtecs like my wifes car has make 140 hp too. So compared to cars made 3 years before this by the same company? Epic fail.
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Shouldn't have skipped the Y in their name pool. CR-Y fits much better.
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The car weighs 350lbs more than the current Fit, makes less power than a 15 year old miata, gets 32 highway mpg less than a 2006 Insight, and apparently handles like crap. Forgive me for being disappointed.
Oh hey, lets compare a car to like 50 other cars to find all its faults compared to those 50 cars. Then lets completely forget about our original post about comparing it to the original car that it resembles in spirit. This will really keep with the premise of the thread.
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Shouldn't have skipped the Y in their name pool. CR-Y fits much better.
Yeah but "Z" is more JDM yo!!

I vote fail. However Honda will always have a market as long as they stamp a VTAK decal on it, them boyz luvz tha VTAKz
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I just think it looks terrible.

All of my honda hatred aside, 9/10 cars they offer look like total ****.

I would sex0r the **** out of a new TL-S, or even just a TL.. Those things are HOT! To be quite honest I'd even drive an RSX if it were RWD. Hell I'd even daily drive a 5th Gen Prelude, ESPECIALLY if RWD!

Just looking at their cars driving down the street.. The pilot used to be okay looking then they boxed it off and just looks like an ulgy ******* turd.

When someone posted the published specs of the japan version CR-Z it didn't look too bad.. The specs, the car always looked like garbage... But seeing the actual specs for the USDM, Pass.
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Oh hey, lets compare a car to like 50 other cars to find all its faults compared to those 50 cars. Then lets completely forget about our original post about comparing it to the original car that it resembles in spirit. This will really keep with the premise of the thread.
I think what was being pointed out is that it realy isn't anything special in any category. Honda has something lighter, something with better gas mileage, plenty with more power, one or two with better suspension. Therefore the market for the car will be smaller than it would be if it really acelled in one area and had all the others there as well.
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I'm not defending the car, just pointing out that the current logic behind the posted argument is fully retarded. If what you stated is in fact his position then he needs to articulate that. It is not apparent in his OP.

I own a 89 CRX HF currently myself and I <3 it. I think the CRZ is an abomination. But I also feel dumber after having read this thread so, rightly, I'm a little annoyed.
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Oh hey, lets compare a car to like 50 other cars to find all its faults compared to those 50 cars. Then lets completely forget about our original post about comparing it to the original car that it resembles in spirit. This will really keep with the premise of the thread.
I've got no idea what your problem is man. In my opinion, it is very underpowered, overweight, overpriced, only has 2 seats, doesn't get remarkable gas mileage and allegedly handles like ****. I'm having trouble thinking of anything that it would compare favorably to.

I was actually excited about this car coming out. I've always owned hondas before and was thinking this would probably be my next car. Unfortuantely it didn't measure up to any of my personal expectations. If you like it, great, maybe they will sell some afterall.
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That CR-Z looks like a flying suppository.
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The friggin US govt. won't let us have fun cars like the original CRX. Now we have to have crumple zones, 18 air bags and all the other BS that makes cars heavy. Look at how tiny the CRX really was. There is nothing like that available. CRX's and our Miatas make the new "Mini" cooper look like a box truck. My 94 Saturn Wagon was rated for the same EPA mileage as that CRZ.

I want a truly light, tiny and yes, underpowered car! I love driving a car with no hp but likes to rev and handle. You can have fun pushing it's limits on public roads without other drivers or the cops knowing or caring.

The euro's get all sorts of fun little cars that either won't meet our standards or that car makers believe wouldn't sell to us fat Americans.
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I want a truly light, tiny and yes, underpowered car! I love driving a car with no hp but likes to rev and handle. You can have fun pushing it's limits on public roads without other drivers or the cops knowing or caring.
This.

I had one of the very first '86 Integras...and man was that car FUN!

You could push it on any road, without being too crazy. The best part was all the performance envelopes matched. You ran out of brakes, suspension and power all at the same time. Great visibility, lovely gear box and willing motor.

Those had the DOHC version of the D16, and mine looked brand new internally at 140K miles. Brakes were 4 wheel discs, uncommon at the time. Everything on that car still worked even though it was almost 20yrs old.


I really wish they still could make cars like that.
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One of the ugliest new cars Ive seen in a long time.
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