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KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 02:04 PM

First time drifting since turbo install
 
Finally made it to an event after having the car down for almost 8 months (tons of bullshit problems). The car felt great for only being street tuned at 10psi.
Engine spec list- 1.8 swap, sr20 .80ar t25, MS v2.3, Begi reroute, rx7 440cc injectors, ARP head studs and a Cometic HG

Braineack 11-19-2013 02:05 PM

people still drift? when will this fad die?

KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1074815)
people still drift? when will this fad die?

When we burn through the world's supply of tires :ohnoes:

mgeoffriau 11-19-2013 02:10 PM

How far into the video should I skip to see someone hit a wall?

KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1074820)
How far into the video should I skip to see someone hit a wall?

Skip to 1:28

Fireindc 11-19-2013 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by KipCantDrift (Post 1074821)
Skip to 1:28

I did so right away, thanks for the warning.

Seriously though, OP did build a turbo miata and make a video of it running. That's better than at least 50% of the members right there :rofl:

KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1074826)
I did so right away, thanks for the warning.

Seriously though, OP did build a turbo miata and make a video of it running. That's better than at least 50% of the members right there :rofl:

haha and I should hopefully have dyno numbers on Monday. Going to get it tuned to 14psi. I read that the turbo I have is a ticking time bomb over 15psi anyways

18psi 11-19-2013 02:33 PM

oh yeah. definitely. 14.99psi will be awesome, but 15.0001 will blow your engine all over the road

I'm gonna be tolerant of the ice-skating video and not comment on it.

concealer404 11-19-2013 02:39 PM

If over 15psi will blow your shit, then why not just run 15psi and not a penny more?

KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1074835)
If over 15psi will blow your shit, then why not just run 15psi and not a penny more?

Mainly because I don't want to deal with any headaches that could have been prevented otherwise. Why cut the turbo's life in half for a little extra horsepower when 10psi already works great for what I need? :p I figure at 14psi I'm staying in the "safe zone", so to speak.

Braineack 11-19-2013 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by KipCantDrift (Post 1074818)
When we burn through the world's supply of tires :ohnoes:

what will run out first: tires or fenders, fascias, and quarter panels?

18psi 11-19-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by KipCantDrift (Post 1074838)
Mainly because I don't want to deal with any headaches that could have been prevented otherwise. Why cut the turbo's life in half for a little extra horsepower when 10psi already works great for what I need? :p I figure at 14psi I'm staying in the "safe zone", so to speak.

oh boy

concealer404 11-19-2013 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by KipCantDrift (Post 1074838)
Mainly because I don't want to deal with any headaches that could have been prevented otherwise. Why cut the turbo's life in half for a little extra horsepower when 10psi already works great for what I need? :p I figure at 14psi I'm staying in the "safe zone", so to speak.


So at 15psi, it switches to the DANGER ZONE?

KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1074840)
what will run out first: tires or fenders, fascias, and quarter panels?

Good question. I'd assume fenders or control arms from kids thinking they're SUPER DORIFUTO drift kings right before they slide into a curb.


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1074845)
So at 15psi, it switches to the DANGER ZONE?

Yes.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384891629

18psi 11-19-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1074845)
So at 15psi, it switches to the DANGER ZONE?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384892405

concealer404 11-19-2013 03:45 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384893908

sixshooter 11-19-2013 04:03 PM


KipCantDrift 11-19-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1074876)

Something just isn't right in this video....
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384896120

turbofan 11-19-2013 06:37 PM

Watched the video. Honestly that looks like it definitely takes some skill. I'd never prep a car for it, but it does look like fun. You'll always get hate here for drifting but the car looks like it was running strong. Make sure to post up dyno numbers after you get it tuned.

Nagase 11-20-2013 02:45 PM

Fun to watch for a minute. Decent linking of drifts, seemed to not just be all power. Liked that.

thenuge26 11-20-2013 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1074845)
So at 15psi, it switches to the DANGER ZONE?


curly 11-20-2013 02:52 PM

Honestly, I'm impressed. Last miata I saw drifting was at an amateur event in Sonoma. Any angle and it either stopped the car or spun it. Must of been stock suspension with cut springs or something, it would NOT drift. Good work.

sixshooter 11-20-2013 03:08 PM

Yes, Miatas are known as being terrible cars to drift because they have such a low polar moment of inertia. Many cars are far easier to set and make hold a drift angle.

thenuge26 11-20-2013 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1075310)
Honestly, I'm impressed. Last miata I saw drifting was at an amateur event in Sonoma. Any angle and it either stopped the car or spun it. Must of been stock suspension with cut springs or something, it would NOT drift. Good work.

Open diff? I know that's what happens to me when I try to drift even with my Xidas.

vitamin j 11-21-2013 12:09 AM

As much shit as you'll get for drifting on this forum, nobody else has a crowd that big watching them drive their Miata.

Nice driving, but FYI, there's something called an apex.

Canipete 11-21-2013 12:18 AM

way to go Kip!

KipCantDrift 11-27-2013 02:04 PM

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Dyno results from the other day, running at 13 psi

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1385579099

Braineack 11-27-2013 02:13 PM

SR20 T25?

KipCantDrift 11-27-2013 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1077508)
SR20 T25?

Yup!

miata2fast 11-27-2013 04:52 PM

Not bad. Also, I was impressed with the video. Looks like you have some skills.

FAHREN 11-27-2013 05:17 PM

I'm not a fan of turning a miata into a drift car, especially since the Whoisdannygeorge movement, but it looks like you're doing all right. Not the easiest car to keep sideways and not look full retard doing it. props.

psreynol 12-07-2013 03:18 AM

not sure about that, my track car was owned by 2 drifters before me and the car drifted pretty well for them. I'm not doing drift events or anything but when the rear lets go I can hold it or straighten it out pretty easily. I changed a few things for track but not as much as one would think. then again, they sold it so perhaps you are right.

KipCantDrift 12-12-2013 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by psreynol (Post 1080470)
not sure about that, my track car was owned by 2 drifters before me and the car drifted pretty well for them. I'm not doing drift events or anything but when the rear lets go I can hold it or straighten it out pretty easily. I changed a few things for track but not as much as one would think. then again, they sold it so perhaps you are right.

These cars aren't too hard to slide once they're on proper suspension and the factory spindles have been modded. They still will never hold angle like a 240 or any other car with a longer wheelbase but I just love the way they slide :)

And thanks for the compliments guys.

Impuls 12-13-2013 08:53 PM

We should have babies, lots of them.

sixshooter 12-13-2013 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1082583)
We should have babies, lots of them.

You first.

Impuls 12-13-2013 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1082602)
You first.

Alright I'll take one for the team.
Just this once though!

Deacon 12-13-2013 10:17 PM

killing it man! legit!

KipCantDrift 12-19-2013 10:52 AM

Had a play date with some friends. These were closed roads in an abandoned development that's been deserted since the 80's, so we weren't being crazy with the possibility of traffic coming out of nowhere
https://vimeo.com/81290978

Also, I have an annoying issue. My manifold bolts managed to back themselves out once during the shoot and again two weeks later (yesterday). Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it? I'm going to try some lock washers to see if that helps prevent the problem. Definitely don't feel like removing my turbo every two weeks to tighten the bolts

Impuls 12-19-2013 11:38 AM

Manifold > head ? or the turbo flange bolts?
Inconel hardware.
Everything hot side needs too handle heat well with little expansion.

Though my buddy with his turbo IS300 ( typical huge turbo 2jz ) used ARP hardware with success. Till he blew up his bearings and we had to overnight parts from Japan (a whole 2jz-gte longblock)

- Nick

Fireindc 12-19-2013 11:39 AM

I've heard about "the compound" in FL, think I came across it on youtube or something - there were just some dudes driving for miles and miles out there. They were pretty adamant that you should bring a GPS unit to not get lost and run out of gas or something, cause it's so massive. Pretty neat, looks like a fun place to drive a small car like a miata in a spirited manner.

As for the manifold bolts backing out, NOPE nobody ever, especially on this forum, has had that happen. You are the only one ever, congrats.

/sarcasm. Search n00b!

KipCantDrift 12-19-2013 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1084376)
Manifold > head ? or the turbo flange bolts?
Inconel hardware.
Everything hot side needs too handle heat well with little expansion.

Sorry, I wasn't sure what to call the bolts :noob:, but I believe it would be the turbo flange bolts that actually hold the turbo to the manifold. I'm searching now, definitely planning on getting different hardware

18psi 12-19-2013 08:46 PM

there is so much discussion on this topic, that at one point there was a real threat of getting warned/banned if you asked about it without searching.

I'm serious

KipCantDrift 12-20-2013 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1084554)
there is so much discussion on this topic, that at one point there was a real threat of getting warned/banned if you asked about it without searching. I'm serious

Pretty sure I found the right thread https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...t=35874&page=2

jacob300zx 12-29-2013 08:38 PM

Thats actually some pretty decent skills. Good job on taking the flaming like a champ. That place "The Compound" is fucking crazy, anybody got a good link to a story on the place?

Impuls 12-29-2013 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 1086886)
Thats actually some pretty decent skills. Good job on taking the flaming like a champ. That place "The Compound" is fucking crazy, anybody got a good link to a story on the place?

They just shut it down today.
I met Kip there today due their final drift day. Was a great time even with the rain and wet socks.

nitrodann 12-29-2013 11:27 PM

That isnt the same place that the vid of that crazy Ariel Atom was filmed?

Dann

Impuls 12-30-2013 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1086944)
That isnt the same place that the vid of that crazy Ariel Atom was filmed?

Dann

Source?
I don't believe I've seen that video.

KipCantDrift 12-31-2013 06:41 PM

Went to the final event at the Central FL Racing Complex. It was a good four year run, sucks that it's shutting down. My GoPro died an hour into a 7 hour event so footage is very limited.


and the epic burnout party to bid the track farewell

Impuls 12-31-2013 07:56 PM

Oohkillem

KipCantDrift 10-08-2014 01:30 PM

Some footage from an event I hit last month. Just went to test out the new setup



Bit of an update in case anyone here cares lol- The car now has a 6 speed along with a new manifold and retune.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...5998eb36b7801b

https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...31&oe=54AAA32A

barbiemx5 10-10-2014 06:47 AM

Hi Kip

18psi 10-10-2014 02:21 PM

does this car have no boost control?

I find the torque curve depressing for a 1.8 with a t25, it should be hitting peak torque by 3500

Impuls 10-10-2014 04:23 PM

Yeah, even my car does better than that and it's a piece of shit.

KipCantDrift 10-10-2014 07:31 PM

Lol I've been running an ancient t25 since last year, got it for $50. It finally died on the way home from that event I posted. Just had it rebuilt so we'll see how it performs when I put everything back in.

Ray Shaibuck 11-15-2014 04:08 PM

Looks awesome man! I didn't expect all the hate for drifting though. That's what I'm building my miata for. That way I'll have a spare car if my FC is down like it was for half of this season. In my mind, a tiny rear wheel drive car with the potential to make good power has no other good use. I've tried autocross. That was a snoozefest. Drag racing is for murica cars. Car shows are for old guys. Mine isn't clean enough to want to make a super nice car for crusing. I wouldn't mind building a spec miata for road racing but for the time drifting is an awesome use of the platform. Keep on keeping on!

Ohh, and what knuckles are you running my friend?

Impuls 11-15-2014 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Shaibuck (Post 1183269)
the potential to make good power

You're not talking about a Miata, right?

Ray Shaibuck 11-15-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Impuls (Post 1183275)
You're not talking about a Miata, right?

Yessir

sixshooter 11-15-2014 07:20 PM

Miatas make terrible drift cars because they have a low polar moment of inertia. There are plenty of far better choices for that. That's the reason the more experienced drifters don't screw around with them. It's part of the reason they make good road race cars.

Ray Shaibuck 11-16-2014 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1183309)
Miatas make terrible drift cars because they have a low polar moment of inertia. There are plenty of far better choices for that. That's the reason the more experienced drifters don't screw around with them. It's part of the reason they make good road race cars.

I've been drifting for years friend. One thing I've learned along the way is there's a lot to be learned by taking road less traveled. That being said, my Miata isn't intended for a competition car. Just a build for fun. That's what its all about anyway. And OP looks like he is having a ton of fun in his turbo Miata.

turbofan 11-16-2014 01:44 PM

1. You're a noob, not a friend.
2. I get it now. You're a unique snowflake, so exploring the "new way" (new, of course, since Miatas JUST hit market and drifting JUST became popular) has allowed you to expand your mind and show them what this little car can do.

:facepalm:

Is a Miata fun to drift? Sure. Is it a good drift car? No. Is Kip a talented driver who is having fun? Yes.

Are you teaching us anything new?

No.


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