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Old 06-03-2014, 01:24 AM   #61
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Get rid of the porsche. Stat.

Push your car in to it's place, and reap the benefits of a garage.

This should quickly be followed by pulling the oil pump plug and/or the sandwich plate.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:38 AM   #62
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I'd hope so, but given everything going on...I can't help but go straight to worse-case scenario. Unfortunately, this oil has not been driven on. This is the oil I put in it and have cranked up the engine on for maybe all of 30 seconds, and spun over a fair bit trying to build pressure. The engine has already been through the oil you put in it, oil I put in it to drive it home and now this round of oil. I'd think that metal flakes should long be gone.

Not to look at MT for mental therapy, but there is other **** going on in my life that is not just the car situation, and it's all piling up and sucking dry my motivation to give a **** about anything. I just need something to go 'good' soon...and it seems getting to drive my car home last Monday was going to be that thing...until this **** happened.
I 100% understand how you are feeling. I have seriously put less then 1000 miles on my 94 since 2012 when I first started having oil pressure problems. Just with everything else going on with life getting to the car has been a challenge.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:39 PM   #63
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Unfortunately, mine is my only car.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:43 PM   #64
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It be.
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Unfortunately, mine is my only car.
This is why I picked up my 92 miata as a beater/dd. The $1200 I have spent on it total over the past 5 years has been totally worth it.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:22 PM   #67
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Just curious - is it possible for you to have Josh or whoever dropped it in for you diagnose it? If you have no garage and/or tools to troubleshoot this properly.

I was going to say "oil pump isn't that hard to replace, you don't even need to yank the engine" but then you're working in a parking lot with what I'm assuming only the bare essential tools, so it might be a pain.
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Actually, I do have a garage, and a fair amount of tools....but the garage is occupied by my friends car (long, complicated story). I do want to kick it out soon so I can organize my garage and work on my car.
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oil pump isn't that hard to replace
LOL.

Oil pump and water pump on these cars are way harder than they should be. But especially the oil pump.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:49 PM   #71
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When I was diagnosing the cam trigger issue on that engine, it took about 10 minutes (no joke) to take off the whole front of the engine and have the water pump/oil pump completely exposed and ready to come out.

Maybe I'm missing something?

I know its not like pulling the valve cover, but still. It aint hard. I'm not sure you appreciate how simple these engines are compared to some others (esp newer cars)

PS: I feel OP's pain, because just a month or two ago I was almost in the same predicament, except over a completely unrelated issue.
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You have to drop the pan to change the oil pump.
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well nevermind then. I completely forgot
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...if only there were a way to access the ******* relief valve without pulling the pump.



The twenty-five dollar and thirty-sever cent question is- Is there a "fix" for the relief valve or is it better to just replace the whole damn thing? I'm seriously contemplating putting myself in a bit of a financial pickle in order to have the car back on the road ASAP and that plan involves sucking up for the BE pump.....


This is assuming that when the pan gets pulled, the metal flecks I found in the oil aren't of concern :/
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:11 PM   #75
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What's the price difference? that vvt pump is expensive, but if it's still a few hundred dollars, I wouldn't stress your money situation any further. It's just a car.

First task needs to be getting rid of the Porsche, while simultaneously signing up for a car-to-go program. You can't keep working on it if every time it needs to go back together and cleaned up. Often the first few hours of car work is spent getting it on jack stands, wheels off, your space organized, and removing a few things. You can't keep wasting your time doing that every day.
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It's really getting to be more of a matter of time now. Take the car to AR and get it back in less time than finding someone with ramps to get Jenn's car into her garage.
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Serious question though- Is it a better to take the pump off and recondition the valve or just replace the pump with a new one?
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Eat ramen for a week/month/whatever and do the BE pump.
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Serious question though- Is it a better to take the pump off and recondition the valve or just replace the pump with a new one?
if its the valve, it has already been reconditioned, so I wouldn't want to take any more chances with it. like seriously, I hand polished it til it was shiny and slid in/out easier than a man train at a hustler party
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Was it mic'd before and after? If you took any material off, i could see it jamming easier.
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