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18psi 06-03-2014 06:14 PM

I'm talking about oplishing with like 2500 sandpaper, then actually buffing with a polisher.
it looked/felt like a mirror
not removing any material. (well you know what I mean, like .00000001 or something)

18psi 06-03-2014 06:19 PM

referenced this thread when I was doing it too, just to make sure I'm not missing or forgetting anything.

https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...il-pump-65290/

Savington 06-03-2014 07:29 PM

Tough love in this post, beware.

Stop fucking cranking it, pull the pan, and replace the oil pump, and do it preferably before you fuck up the bearings any further. The relief valve is obviously stuck open, and there is no amount of fuckery that you will do aside from replacing the entire part that will fix this. Stop risking a $3000 motor to save a $300 pump that is very obviously broken.

There is a major lack of common sense in this thread.

Doppelgänger 06-03-2014 07:46 PM

Thanks Andrew. That is the current plan. Fuckery has stopped. Car will be going to shop and BE pump installed. I'm just working the financials right now. The troubleshooting I did on Monday was enough for me.

Now I blame Vlad for not using a new pump. Thanks Vlad...you dick.

18psi 06-03-2014 11:48 PM

:cry:

Doppelgänger 06-04-2014 12:29 AM

:glare:

Doppelgänger 06-06-2014 01:56 AM

Car is now in the shop. Yay.

curly 06-09-2014 10:44 PM

MT community:


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1134616)
Lars had similar problem on exactly the same kind of engine:
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...-49760/page24/


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1134664)
Its starting to sound more and more like the problem Lars had.
His was also a clog related to a sandwitch plate IIRC


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1134706)
I'm hoping for another clogged sandwich plate thingy.


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1134724)
First before anything else, take off the alternator, there will be a small Allen head plug on the oil pump. Remove that and put lots of paper towels down all around and briefly try to crank the car. If you do not get oil coming out that hole then the oil pump is not building pressure. If oil shoots out then you know the oil pump is working.


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1134777)
I would do the oil pump priming hole before you hook the vacuum up to the oil feed.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1134807)
But I still think its clogged, cause I specifically took a LONG time cleaning and polishing that part when I took apart the stocker. I read all the horror stories about stuck valve


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1134808)
Eliminate the much easier stuff first.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1136159)
Did you remove that hex screw on the oil pump and see if oil came out like lars posted?


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1136335)
This should quickly be followed by pulling the oil pump plug and/or the sandwich plate.




Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 1137403)

Car is now in the shop. Yay.

At least Martin followed the MT wisdom at AR. Glad you're back on the road though.

hornetball 06-09-2014 11:39 PM

What happened? Who's Martin?

curly 06-09-2014 11:43 PM

Martin is greddygalant. He was happy to have mike's (Dopple's) car leave his garage after engine pulling, shipping, and install delays. Only to have it show up at his work, Adrenaline Racing. He followed our advice and found a clogged FM relocation plate.

18psi 06-10-2014 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1138487)
Martin is greddygalant. He was happy to have mike's (Dopple's) car leave his garage after engine pulling, shipping, and install delays. Only to have it show up at his work, Adrenaline Racing. He followed our advice and found a clogged FM relocation plate.

so that was it? it works now?

and it was that all along, just like I said, and after he bitched me out for using an OEM pump?

LOL

greddygalant 06-10-2014 12:34 AM

Not only this, but I told mike several times through text to ditch the damn thing prior to it showing up at AR. Lo and behold ditch FM piece, put on filter in OEM location, bam oil pressure.
Regardless,hopefully Mike gets everything squared away soon and gets it tuned properly.

FRT_Fun 06-10-2014 01:00 AM

As funny as this is, I'm happy to hear the car has pressure. Thank the oil gods. How was the relocation clogged? I feel like that shouldn't happen...

Doppelgänger 06-10-2014 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1138497)
so that was it? it works now?

and it was that all along, just like I said, and after he bitched me out for using an OEM pump?

LOL

It was 'in good fun' bitching at you lol...not that I was really holding you to it or anything (unless there is something I can hold for you :giggle: )


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 1138506)
How was the relocation clogged? I feel like that shouldn't happen...

Me neither. I'll be taking it apart soon to find out what got in there. That thing has been on the car since before I owned it and makes no logical sense as to something clogging it.
I'm happy though. I've squared away a few details. I drove the car a bit with the WG wired open, then did some driving with the WG connected but stayed under 4psi....all felt well. Once the knock sensor is back on, I'll hook up the lappy toppy and set the MBC to 10psi so I can drive the car fairly normally until I can get to KO Racing and have it tuned.


I already put 100mi on it lol
Yeah, the valve lash definitely need checking though...it sounds a bit like a NA 1.8 that's been driven hard.


BTW Martin, it helps when the charge pipe is ON the end of the compressor outlet....not just sitting next to it...
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1402383564

rleete 06-10-2014 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 1138522)
BTW Martin, it helps when the charge pipe is ON the end of the compressor outlet....not just sitting next to it...

Fussy, fussy.

shuiend 06-10-2014 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1138487)
Martin is greddygalant. He was happy to have mike's (Dopple's) car leave his garage after engine pulling, shipping, and install delays. Only to have it show up at his work, Adrenaline Racing. He followed our advice and found a clogged FM relocation plate.

Honestly who would have guessed that the extra sandwich plate was causing the problem. It is not like a mod on here has ever had exactly the same problem before.


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 1138522)
BTW Martin, it helps when the charge pipe is ON the end of the compressor outlet....not just sitting next to it...
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1402383564

Fuck getting that pipe on. I was trying to help a guy at the Mitty get it on and it was a royal PITA.

greddygalant 06-10-2014 09:29 AM

I didn't touch that charge pipe when you brought it to the shop. It was attached when you left my house, Josh will confirm that. Probably for the best though, just to make sure you don't break it again :P xoxoxo

But seriously, that pipe sucks, it runs on everything.
How is is the car otherwise?

hornetball 06-10-2014 11:28 AM

That pipe looks like a future coolant leak to me.

Doppelgänger 06-10-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1138536)
Honestly who would have guessed that the extra sandwich plate was causing the problem. It is not like a mod on here has ever had exactly the same problem before.



Fuck getting that pipe on. I was trying to help a guy at the Mitty get it on and it was a royal PITA.

It's still not logical lol. Really, yes, between you and what Josh and Martin said...but look at the odds on rebuilt engines on here and stuck relief valves vs. shit stuck in the oil system. As for the pipe- pussy. I put it back on after driving the car...hot coolant line, hot turbo, hot exhaust manifold....and it only took me like 5 minutes.


Originally Posted by greddygalant (Post 1138552)
I didn't touch that charge pipe when you brought it to the shop. It was attached when you left my house, Josh will confirm that. Probably for the best though, just to make sure you don't break it again :P xoxoxo

But seriously, that pipe sucks, it runs on everything.
How is is the car otherwise?

Riiiiiiight. It was either you or Josh who did it, but it's more fun to blame you.
See post above for status of car.


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1138606)
That pipe looks like a future coolant leak to me.


Nah, once it's properly over the compressor, the clamp doesn't touch the coolant hose.

18psi 06-10-2014 12:32 PM

Bout to drive up to oregon and get into a slap fight with you.
rebuilt engines on here having stuck valves?
oh no you di-innnnt girfrandd:giggle:
I polished that valve harder than you polish your knob every evening :magna:


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