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Old 03-17-2010, 02:18 PM   #21
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that def that for sale one with the white top, if you pause it right you can see the same **** on it
You shouldve bought it
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She's running a huge front mount with stock turbo? That's the stupidest **** ever. Also, sti injectors? Why? that td04 barely maxes out the stockers running 20psi and rich as hell. Sounds like her wrx is modded retardedly and I doubt its making 240whp. Just my opinion though.
Sort of like your buddies STI with a VF22?

A well tuned STI on a stock turbo with supporting mods should trap 105-108.

A well tuned Miata with a 2560 will trap higher but be slower in the 1/4. It's just easier to launch an AWD car and get a respectable 60 ft.

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Exactly. I told his dumb *** not to get a vf22. Its just a damn 39 with a TIIIINY bit larger compressor god for MAYBE another 10-20hp which is beyond retarded to spend money on and consider an "UPGRADE". He made 280 with a 39 and now 300 with the 22. Whoopty friggin dooo...

Now he has a laggier, peakier powerband, and is maxing out the vf22 just to make the extra 20hp. I had to pull a bunch of timing up top too cause he doesn't want to taper boost and the turbo is just huffing hot air.

Oh well, its his car/money.
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Sort of like your buddies STI with a VF22?

A well tuned STI on a stock turbo with supporting mods should trap 105-108.

A well tuned Miata with a 2560 will trap higher but be slower in the 1/4. It's just easier to launch an AWD car and get a respectable 60 ft.

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Well there's a guy here with a T25 running a 12.5 1/4 mile. The thread was posted a few months back, I think he running an Egay T25 at that.
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t25's range from microscopic to fairly large. Mine for example, is technically a t25/t3 hybrid yet is similar in size to a tater


The Fleabay 25's tend to be on the large side mostly

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IIRC correctly it was something close to a 2560. Ill look for the thread.

Found it
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t39626/
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I've been wanting to get a good race only thing I got my my friends Saab aero and I emberrased him like no other, and then my other friend with a stock audi a4 1.8t I won't even wanna tell you what waist of gas that was. But they don't know anything about cars and just cause their cars cost 15-20k more than mine they think they'll beat me LOL
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A well tuned STI on a stock turbo with supporting mods should trap 105-108.

A well tuned Miata with a 2560 will trap higher but be slower in the 1/4. It's just easier to launch an AWD car and get a respectable 60 ft.

Frank

AWD is a huge advantage on the street for sure, but frankly on the strip its down to skill. My lame skillz got me 1.8-1.9 60 foots in my DSM (in my defense that was on 205 width all seasons). Thats well within what a good driver can do on almost any RWD platform with a good tire and decent power. Most guys at the track in Evo/WRXs will cut something like a 1.7 if they are halfway decent from what I have seen. Turbo Miatas just dont spend much time at the strip in compairison.
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I don't wanna blow that kids spot up since he's selling that car in the video, but there are a few more videos on youtube of him beating the ever loving **** out of that thing.
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AWD is a huge advantage on the street for sure, but frankly on the strip its down to skill. My lame skillz got me 1.8-1.9 60 foots in my DSM (in my defense that was on 205 width all seasons). Thats well within what a good driver can do on almost any RWD platform with a good tire and decent power. Most guys at the track in Evo/WRXs will cut something like a 1.7 if they are halfway decent from what I have seen. Turbo Miatas just dont spend much time at the strip in compairison.
Miatas are tire limited. Skill is great, but if you can't hook up your RWD car because you can only fit 225 DRs on the back and you're geared with a 3.9 diff, you won't pull a 1.8 60. And most people won't pay for MT ET streets for the rear to do that. I pulled 1.80s on shitty Dunlop D40M2s back in my DSM days with very limited practice. When I was running my FMII Miata with a 50 shot of nitrous, I always spun through first and ended up with 2.0 60s at best. And that was hitting nitrous after the 1-2 shift. The 215 T1Rs just wouldn't hook.

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/\ This man speaketh the tr00f

The kind of traction off the line and in the lower gears that I had on my subaru's I can only dream of in the miata.

yeah yeah, its POSSIBLE to make it grip, but that requires a hefty amount of money
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I look at it a different way.

I think it's impressive that Subaru can put together a tough, comfortable, and reliable 3300lb+ four-door that can at least keep pace with a little forced induction miata. The STI is reasonably fast on the dragstrip and roadcourse. And is nearly untouchable on gravel/dirt/ice. AND you can fit carseats in the back, fill it with groceries, or go on a trip with the family.

In addition to our Turbo Miata, we also have an '02 WRX, an '06 STI, and a '90 DSM. On a nice day on nice roads the miata is a blast, and it's definitely faster and more fun for autocross. Acceleration wise they feel about they same but I've never put them head-to-head. The miata at 9/10's involves a lot of driver attention which makes it fun and rewarding. The STI practically drives itself at 9/10's and is a bit boring once you are used to it.

But if I had to pick one car to get me and my stuff from point A to point B, as fast and as safe as possible, under imperfect road conditions (I suppose that's the definition of rally), it would definitely be the STI.
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That is why I had 3 WRX's so far and by next year I'll have another one. I love them.
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I don't wanna blow that kids spot up since he's selling that car in the video, but there are a few more videos on youtube of him beating the ever loving **** out of that thing.
The car was marked sold already... so yeah

Besides do you really believe the "never been raced/abused" claim by owners advertising a moded vehicle, like really
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Yeah that gets me every time: "I invested thousands of dollars into this car to double the power output and improve handling, but I NEVER drove it fast"





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The kind of traction off the line and in the lower gears that I had on my subaru's I can only dream of in the miata.
Traction is over rated

Matt's SATANS SLED VS Troys SUBIE BLACK BEAST Video by subie steve - MySpace Video
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Same car, looks dope. I like gutted turbo miata. Looking at the youtube vids, I bet it weighs around 2050 when he runs the hardtop. He is probably making around 230ish whp. Thats 8.91 to 1...fast.
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I don't even know what that shitty video was. The guy who blows by someone after a mile is the one who already lost the race.

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Actually that was only about 1/4 mile long race. I should know I was the one driving the GTO
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