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Old 12-10-2008, 10:54 AM   #21
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Manhattan: Hells Kitchen - right next to Columbus Circle.

BK? What neighborhood? Who have you been using for your dyno tuning on your MS?
Bensonhurst.

I am street tuning, but I know a shop in Linden that has great options for dyno time. Can let you know if you are interested.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:20 AM   #22
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Thanks again guys.

John: Hang the rebel flag! Its actually the underground lift in front of Ferrari's North American headquarters. And its the only level park of their entire property aside from a garage area in the back lol.

Sam: Thanks. I am definitely looking for some dyno time soon once I get my cold weather crank settings down and dial in some slightly more aggressive alignment settings. If you are ever down for a ride let me know - weekends are for racing, cruising and riding.

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Nice car.

You might be interested in joining Welcome to Mobbius too. Once the weather turns around, we do lots of spirited driving in the north jersey area.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:38 AM   #24
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Thanks Artie.

I met a couple guys from the Mob when i was doing some initial suspension tuning at A/X. Took forever to get things honed in and then I went and changed it all. I believe one guy's name was Eric? Had a aggressively a/x oriented Miata. Gutted with a cage and a turbo from a MS if I recall correctly. I think another guy was Roman. Seemed like some good guys.

I drive every chance I get, cold or not, top is down and I'm driving - I'll be out agin on Saturday for a little I'm sure and Sunday I'll be out in another car and I need to do a trans pan gasket, but I'm still down for a cruise.
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Wow - we have pretty similar cars too lol.

Mine is an S4 and I am running a FM bar in the front and stock rear bar and no COPS but pretty close otherwise lol.

Was that 250rwhp you ran at 14.5psi? or corrected hp? Gotta be rwhp, right? Any boost creep? Guessing by the half lb psi you are running external gate?

Were did you get tuned at around here?
Internally gated. 250rwhp at the dynojet place that's used by this forum for the dyno days. I want with a bunch of guys from the Mob forum. I say ~14.5 because boost was not totally steady that day as it was much warmer then ususal and I had to retune the duty cycle table pretty quickly. It fluctuated between 14-14.5psi. Road tuned by me.
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Wob,

I'm another one very similar to yours. 94' black & tan, BEGI S4, 2860rs, mspnp, ACT HD, 8" 6UL's, enthuza 2.5", metal cat, Tein RA's 9/6kg, RB hollow w/ stock rear bar, Savington's COP's, stocker seats with race seat & 5 pt. harness swapped in for track days.

Was dumb and cheap and went internal wg. Saved $150 bucks vs external. Should have paid the money and gone external but it was a test mule for Corky. He was experimenting with the internal wg porting at that time and I let him go that way. Mine doesn't boost creep as bad as others though. Johndoe's was so bad he swapped for a smaller turbo. Mine put down 241 rwhp at 10.5 psi. I've tweaked it a bunch since but haven't been back to a dyno.

Savington in the group buy section does a great job at a great price on COP's!


Damn fun cars aren't they! Your's looks serious and very nice. Well done!
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Thank cueball - I went internal because I think they are more than capable of handling the boost I want to run and the added space savings. Mine was ported and I get about 1psi of creep sometimes, nothing too major. If it gets bad when if turn up the boost more I will just change the setup.

This is seriously excessive amount of Miata's for me - something along the lines of 15 including parts cars and Miatas bought to flip. I have been driving them for about 10-11 years now and no matter how much money I make (or will ever) I still will always have one. Incredible way to put a smile my face.
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Good to hear the porting worked well for you. Mine's about the same.

There's something about a 250 hp Miata that seems so wrong and so right at the same time. If your S4 car is anything like mine the power is so linear it feels more like a big motor than a turbo. Every time I see a guy driving an NA/NB I feel like preaching the glories of turbo. Too many guys think the power will ruin the balance, handling and character they love about the car.

Power doesn't ruin the character it just gives it MORE!

Love embarassing some very expensive cars on the road course with my little chick car. Can't hang with the really big boys though. That'll take a built lower end and another 7-8psi. DD car so it's also pig heavy.
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Good to hear the porting worked well for you. Mine's about the same.

There's something about a 250 hp Miata that seems so wrong and so right at the same time. If your S4 car is anything like mine the power is so linear it feels more like a big motor than a turbo. Every time I see a guy driving an NA/NB I feel like preaching the glories of turbo. Too many guys think the power will ruin the balance, handling and character they love about the car.

Power doesn't ruin the character it just gives it MORE!

Love embarassing some very expensive cars on the road course with my little chick car. Can't hang with the really big boys though. That'll take a built lower end and another 7-8psi. DD car so it's also pig heavy.
Yeah, with power these cars are just ******* absurd.

As for sitting at the adults table...do you have r-compounds, do you have race compound pads...and are you driving like a man? A 270whp, 2500lb full-interior miata goes back and forth with gt3's and a Z06 for the street-car lap record at MSR.
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Sam: Thanks. I am definitely looking for some dyno time soon once I get my cold weather crank settings down and dial in some slightly more aggressive alignment settings. If you are ever down for a ride let me know - weekends are for racing, cruising and riding.
Will do.

When youre ready, let me know, and we can hit the dyno in Linden.
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Whats the place in Linden by the way? They have any experience with the MS PnP?
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Good looking car, I always wanted a white miata, but I always end up with red ones.
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Looking at your pics again how the hell are you driving that in the winter with the big rad and the splice to the top hose? Are you seeing the same temp problems that I and others have experienced?
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I cool but not cold. What problems are other having?
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I'm on the cusp. I run cool - not cold enough to bother me, but noticeably cooler than stock in the winter. I have had some aggressive runs in the late summer and I stayed in a good range, but no track time to find out a true spectrum. For now I will leave it.
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At 40 degrees, mine takes 10-15 minutes on the freeway before it really warms up. That's with the BEGI reroute and a big aluminum rad. My commute is about 15 to 20 minutes so I'm just starting to get warm when I get to work.

I'm wondering if I should block off part of the rad for winter.
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I'll repeat myself. With my stock rad and the upper splice it would only get up to temp if I sat and let it heat soak. Once I started moving at 30mph or more the temp would drop like a stone and not rise above 140f when it was 40F ambient no matter how long I stayed in boost. With true winter weather now I don't even want to think about how low the temps would get. Maybe my shrouding is just super efficient though. With the splice in the bottom hose it warms up quick and stays where it should. I'll see how it is in the warmer weather like this. My goal is to not have to upgrade the rad.
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