Yet another reason to go AbsurdFlow
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Because modifying wrenches isn't needed for that middle bottom nut. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_0867.jpg |
While I do believe the AbsurdFlow mani to be a better piece, I was able to install my BEGi S5 mani with an unmodified 14mm Craftsman wrench. I can't see why everyone has such a problem, 1.6 cars maybe?
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I hate you
<-Jealous |
And from the top no less, I'm jealous.
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my ETD doesn't require modified wrenches.
everyone has nipples too, not just you. |
I used a typical craftsman box wrench on mine...
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I don't have anything on that stud....Whatever.
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I used this ho:
http://toolguyd.com/blog/wp-content/...t-wrenches.jpg Mine is a bit tighter than yours, but equally glorious. |
I imagine Andrew is holding your hand on this, but I mistanely had a leak at the dp. You probably need a friend to help hold the downpipe to make sure its flush when putting the clamp on.
When I fixed this I went from making 11psi at 3600 to 3200rpm, lol. Welcome to the crew up superior fabrication. I'm not only a client, I'm the player president. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472400)
I imagine Andrew is holding your hand on this, but I mistanely had a leak at the dp. You probably need a friend to help hold the downpipe to make sure its flush when putting the clamp on.
When I fixed this I went from making 11psi at 3600 to 3200rpm, lol. Welcome to the crew up superior fabrication. I'm not only a client, I'm the player president. Impressive. :D |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472396)
I used this ho:
http://toolguyd.com/blog/wp-content/...t-wrenches.jpg Mine is a bit tighter than yours, but equally glorious. |
What are the squares on top of the manifold? Are they future EGT bungs to be drilled?
PS looking good. |
I too had no issues accessing my nut with a standard wrench on my s5 manifold.
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Originally Posted by Cococarbine3
(Post 472428)
What are the squares on top of the manifold? Are they future EGT bungs to be drilled?
PS looking good. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472432)
Gussetting...its what you need when your balls drop and you cut a hot-lap for the first time in your life.
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Nick,
What are you doing about turbine/chra hardware? I'm trying the "nimonic" shit with inconel safety wire. If that fails I'm dropping off the green car to Mike Minnet in Fort Worth with an LS3, T56, and 8.8 rear...after I grow a few thousand bucks. |
I see the problem. His turbocharger is guzzling beer.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472434)
...after I grow a few thousand bucks.
Sounds painful. |
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Strange, i always had a hell of a time getting that nut on with my begi cast mani. I thought everyone had one of these:
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472400)
I imagine Andrew is holding your hand on this, but I mistanely had a leak at the dp. You probably need a friend to help hold the downpipe to make sure its flush when putting the clamp on.
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472434)
Nick,
What are you doing about turbine/chra hardware? I'm trying the "nimonic" shit with inconel safety wire. If that fails I'm dropping off the green car to Mike Minnet in Fort Worth with an LS3, T56, and 8.8 rear...after I grow a few thousand bucks. |
buy inconel wire...no more chances. I think I'm going to start with the TiAL bolts I already bought, wired with inconel, and if that fails I will use the "nimonic" shit from Williams F2. I'd rather drill on the $10 hardware than drill on the $130 nut and stud combo that is sure to wreck my life.
I was able to point my charge pipes "down" unlike most others with the AF stuff and I just had Abe/ARTech use the old begi pipes. BTW, I'm also thinking about trying to get the 11psi BOV spring to work becuase I had very high Silicon #'s on my last uoa most likely from the BOV staying open. |
Originally Posted by evank
(Post 472463)
I see the problem. His turbocharger is guzzling beer.
EDIT: I'm glad to see it went together with one person Nick. I do it by myself but have had a lot of experience and sorta know how get it together on my back and in what order, etc. I am thinking of ways of making it easier...that burns doubleslip stuff is theoretically tits but as you guys can tell the 3" section is more of a PITA than it should be. I think an extra $30 for a v-band instead of the double slip would be more ideal (vband may be the same price ultimately for the next builds I may do, cause there's a lot of fab time in there to get that 3" slip to actually go together, may redos there). And find a damn way to get a 1.5" flex in there somewhere. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 472476)
buy inconel wire...no more chances. I think I'm going to start with the TiAL bolts I already bought, wired with inconel, and if that fails I will use the "nimonic" shit from Williams F2. I'd rather drill on the $10 hardware than drill on the $130 nut and stud combo that is sure to wreck my life.
I was able to point my charge pipes "down" unlike most others with the AF stuff and I just had Abe/ARTech use the old begi pipes. BTW, I'm also thinking about trying to get the 11psi BOV spring to work becuase I had very high Silicon #'s on my last uoa most likely from the BOV staying open. I plan to re do the charge pipes down, but my god damm drain is going to cut it really close. Happen to have any pictures of how it looks down there? Link to cheapest place you found the safety wire? I actually ran out of SS wire last night so i need more anyways.
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 472589)
backwards too.
EDIT: I'm glad to see it went together with one person Nick. I do it by myself but have had a lot of experience and sorta know how get it together on my back and in what order, etc. I am thinking of ways of making it easier...that burns doubleslip stuff is theoretically tits but as you guys can tell the 3" section is more of a PITA than it should be. I think an extra $30 for a v-band instead of the double slip would be more ideal (vband may be the same price ultimately for the next builds I may do, cause there's a lot of fab time in there to get that 3" slip to actually go together, may redos there). And find a damn way to get a 1.5" flex in there somewhere. Btw, i am super happy with how close everything is with the dp and wastegate tube in terms of clearance. Tits! |
Originally Posted by thesnowboarder
(Post 472625)
I would have preferred a v-band down there for future reference. For an addition 30-50 bucks it would be way worth it. Those doubleslip joints were a huge PITA to get together from under the car. Btw, i am super happy with how close everything is with the dp and wastegate tube in terms of clearance. Tits! Now the 1.5" never gave me a problem on any of the downpipes. I'm glad to hear you are happy so far. Did you get your BOV? |
Nick, I can't find my damn oil-return pics. I used 45* swivel fittings and let it snake around, but never dipping below the pan fitting. I'm going to get ARTech to make a hardline for me soon.
I agree with the v-banding. I'm using cheap v-bands from "siliconeintakes.com" on my exhaust parts now because they're only $30 for 3" flanges and clamps combines. I think anything that you put on the DP or turbo of course should be the male/female tial greatness. |
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That looks terrible.
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That drain looks .... ew.
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Hustler....seriously...how could YOU even THINK that drain was good?
Maybe it's the angle of the pic...but I wouldn't drive MY piece of shit with a drain like that...and I'm a ghetto riggin mother fucker. |
I don't think its the angle, that drain sucks.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 473223)
Hustler....seriously...how could YOU even THINK that drain was good?
Maybe it's the angle of the pic...but I wouldn't drive MY piece of shit with a drain like that...and I'm a ghetto riggin mother fucker. Savington's is a fucking loop and works fine. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 473231)
there is no other option than making a hardline...and I don't own welding equipment. The train is roughly 1/2" above the oil pan return.
Savington's is a fucking loop and works fine. Pic looks like you've got about 2" to play with...and though you looped that stainless line that was two long as opposed to a piece of silicone line without kink. Just surprised me for how much you obsess over shit. |
I tried to go as short as possible and that's the amount of hose I needed to get a gentle bend and not a kink.
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http://www.boostedmiata.com/projects...p/DSC_0004.JPG
How much different its yours than mine. Make it work. |
Thanks, look like I have work to do.
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Mine is 1 90 and 1 straight. Maybe like 2-3" of line between the 2. I also, slightly, clocked my chra to make it work. Only a few degrees.
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 473256)
Mine is 1 90 and 1 straight. Maybe like 2-3" of line between the 2. I also, slightly, clocked my chra to make it work. Only a few degrees.
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I have a -10an on the pan and a bolt on -10an adapter on the return.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 472589)
that burns doubleslip stuff is theoretically tits but as you guys can tell the 3" section is more of a PITA than it should be. I think an extra $30 for a v-band instead of the double slip would be more ideal (vband may be the same price ultimately for the next builds I may do, cause there's a lot of fab time in there to get that 3" slip to actually go together, may redos there). And find a damn way to get a 1.5" flex in there somewhere.
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Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 473274)
Double slips aren't needed downstream of the turbine anyway. They're intended to seal against high pressure. Great for turbo manifolds if you have the real estate (and a fat wallet).
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 473225)
I don't think its the angle, that drain sucks.
Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 473274)
Double slips aren't needed downstream of the turbine anyway. They're intended to seal against high pressure. Great for turbo manifolds if you have the real estate (and a fat wallet).
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 473855)
Another reason not to go ABSURDflow ;)
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We actually didn't drill or tap the oil pan. We just cut the threaded section of an AN fitting and JBWeld'ed it on there. Much simpler. Looks legit. I figured you'd blow the motor up before the turbo anyway.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 473881)
We actually didn't drill or tap the oil pan. We just cut the threaded section of an AN fitting and JBWeld'ed it on there. Much simpler. Looks legit. I figured you'd blow the motor up before the turbo anyway.
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/306-3/DSC00612.jpg gotta be careful when you tighten it or you'll pull it right off. |
I was actually joking. :inout:
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 473251)
Thanks, look like I have work to do.
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=1 I know Brgracer had to do something like you, Hustler, did to get his to work. His turbo was so low that the ends of the fittings were touching each other, there was able 1/8" of visible hose. |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 473890)
I was actually joking. :inout:
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Attachment 202941 Not legit http://gallery.y8s.com/d/306-3/DSC00612.jpg ;) Now only if I had something to hook to it. |
Originally Posted by TurboTim
(Post 473855)
Another reason not to go ABSURDflow ;)
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 473898)
You're putting words in my mouth now. I think your mani is the tits. I just think that there is much room for improvement in that return line. He just needs to angle the fitting on the pan differently and then shorten that line by like half.
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 473895)
Legit
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...g1995/Pan2.jpg Not legit http://gallery.y8s.com/d/306-3/DSC00612.jpg ;) Now only if I had something to hook to it. |
Personally, If I had a choice I would want something like y8s has but made of SS and has a nut on the other side that is then welded to the fitting once tightened down. Then you never have to worry about threads shearing from over tightening and it will never leak because of the JB.
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Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 473943)
the AN fitting is tapped into the oil pan and only uses JB as thread sealant because of the teflon tape no-no... it is track proven legit.
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 473895)
http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...r4/OilPan1.JPG I don't see anything wrong with using JBWeld as a thread sealant. That's what I used on my 1.6. |
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
(Post 473948)
I know, I know. Its perfectly fine if you do it that way with the engine still in the car, but if you go JB weld and the engine is out of the car, shame on you!
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The female pan pictured is full of fail IMHO. The purpose of the 37deg angle is to provide a leak free seal. Without it all you have is just another threading. The male version pictured by Tim is the only way to go it you are doing weld on.
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If I could redo it I would have done male, but the idea with going female was I wasn't going turbo right away, and wouldn't have a way to cap off the AN fitting otherwise. Unless they make a female AN cap that I have never seen before. It was a good choice since I'm still not turbo and if I ever do it will still be years down the road. Female bung is still win over JB welded ugly mess.
Not sure if you seriously wanted a link or not. I think it was this one in my case, 3/8''NPT http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15252/10002/-1 Considering it was $5 for the bung and only cost me a small tip (guy wouldn't charge me for welding it on) it beats the hell out of doing a JB weld job down the road and having to deal with drilling and tapping on the car. |
You mean like these plugs? AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products, Hose ends Hose,Adapters, fittings
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 474058)
You mean like these plugs? AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products, Hose ends Hose,Adapters, fittings
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 474058)
You mean like these plugs? AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products, Hose ends Hose,Adapters, fittings
I'll weld on an AN bung for you matt for free, just pay for the shipping both ways, or you can give it to me (or pick it up) at the dyno day. |
oh my bad, I meant MALE. I already have the female plug cap. looks like they're 5-15 bucks. not bad!
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