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midnightmiata 02-19-2010 03:06 PM

367 MJ/hr Miata
 
Hello everyone, my name is Kory. I have a fully built 1991 1.8L orgional 1.6 block miata running on 20 psi of boost. I have wrenched, and wrenched on this car day in and out. If you are attempting a turbo project and need some advice or help, let me know, I've see and done it all, even tunned my megasquirt myself with a AFR in boost @ 11.1-11.2. Im not a firm believer in swapping motors for a V8, if your gonna go that rout thats fine, however, save a couple more thousand dollars and buy a mustang then or camaro.. Just my opinion. Like I said, if you need help, let me know. Good luck to everyone, zoom zoom zoom.

mrtbon 02-19-2010 03:13 PM

welcome, we are happy to have. But first before you can do anything we need more details on your car. What turbo, internals, charge cooling, and gas are you running? Location and a little details about your car are always helpful to put in your sig btw.

gospeed81 02-19-2010 03:17 PM

Welcome!

I'm very interested in your setup. My second-round goals are just a little shy of what you're doing.

We've got a dyno thread, and a turbo spool thread we'd love for you to post in, and MS expertise is always welcome.

-Damon

buffon01 02-19-2010 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525232)
... I have a fully built 1991 1.8L orgional 1.6 block miata running on 20 psi of boost...


Holy fuck!! isnt that a bit thin for the block walls??

Welcome, do you have any pics??

m2cupcar 02-19-2010 03:56 PM

Definitely hook up with Hustler- he needs your advice.

Efini~FC3S 02-19-2010 04:00 PM

I'm originally from Cedar Rapids. I wasn't aware there were any high hp miatas running around eastern Iowa...

slomiata 02-19-2010 04:14 PM

Sounds sweet, lets see some dynos! Welcome to the forum!

Braineack 02-19-2010 04:20 PM

welcome!


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ismael_pt 02-19-2010 04:27 PM

pics or it didn't happen

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 06:31 PM

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Most of the pics can be found in my profile photo album, running FIC 750cc injectors, 15g greddy turbo.Yes buffon, the walls are thin, but they still have enuff left to hold the boost, i've done a lot of research in how I went about building my miata. This is my 3rd miata. I love them. Effini, thats cool your from cedar rapids, email me so we can go cruise, looking for some more peeps with miatas to have a topless cruise, my email is lovinluxy@yahoo.com. I am a newby to this forum stuff so please be patient everyone. Thankyou for your replies, also, dyno graph is in my profile album photos too.The reason for the build is because car was running 12 psi boost on stock internals and..... yea, then came the knock because knock sensor went bad.

Braineack 02-19-2010 06:38 PM

397 rwhp with a Greddy turbo?!

should i ban you now?


TD04H-15G can flow around 440CFM (275HP) 55 trim - 41.2mm in. - 55.55mm ex. | Turbine: 2.047" ex.


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midnightmiata 02-19-2010 06:48 PM

15g turbo putting out 20 psi boost, come to manchester iowa and I will show you, 367 whp not 397whp like you said braineack, car is also running on E85 w/750cc injectors. Turbo is at it's max, anything else you don't believe? Videos soon to come on youtube!!

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 06:52 PM

440 cfm is what the turbo will do by itself, now consider 9:1 compression, E85, 3in. exhaust, on a 20 bar map and 750cc injectors on 255 walboro fuel pump. You do the math.. Want the number for the dyno shop??

Jeff_Ciesielski 02-19-2010 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525362)
15g turbo putting out 20 psi boost, come to manchester iowa and I will show you, 367 whp not 397whp like you said braineack, car is also running on E85 w/750cc injectors. Turbo is at it's max, anything else you don't believe? Videos soon to come on youtube!!

Sorry guy, but that's just not going to happen. Turbo is too small, injectors are too small for that kind of power with E85.

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 06:57 PM

I will soon have videos to prove everyone wrong!!

Jeff_Ciesielski 02-19-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525364)
440 cfm is what the turbo will do by itself, now consider 9:1 compression, E85, 3in. exhaust, on a 20 bar map and 750cc injectors on 255 walboro fuel pump. You do the math.. Want the number for the dyno shop??

Fucking christ, slow down. Reading your dipshit childish posts, which are filled with typos and inconsistencies (20 bar map...what...sensor? That's something like 300 psi) is about to push me into having a fucking rage stroke.

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 07:01 PM

Excuse me for my error!!!!!! Just called the dyno shop, they said 357 max hp, not whp. Sorry, i was not at the dyno shop when they ran it. 318 ft lbs of toque.

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 07:10 PM

ego 2 hooked to megasquirt pnp standalone, map was created by myself with no help. If you wanna call the bullshit card whatever. Come to manchester iowa and see the car for yourself and watch my videos when i get them or shut the hell up!

Jeff_Ciesielski 02-19-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525376)
ego 2 hooked to megasquirt pnp standalone, map was created by myself with no help. If you wanna call the bullshit card whatever. Come to manchester iowa and see the car for yourself and watch my videos when i get them or shut the hell up!

http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/Images/tampon.gif

Instructions.
Read them.

Braineack 02-19-2010 07:15 PM

We got ourselves another Kurt Romhner

Efini~FC3S 02-19-2010 07:16 PM

They must be using a flying miata correction factor at that dyno shop...

Braineack 02-19-2010 07:18 PM

my bad it's 340rwhp at 20psi on a 1800cc motor with a tiny turbo and stock IM not 367.

Jeff_Ciesielski 02-19-2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 525385)
my bad it's 340rwhp at 20psi on a 1800cc motor with a tiny turbo and stock IM not 367.

Don't forget the stock greedy manifold. That thing just screams flow.

buffon01 02-19-2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 525379)

Where are the un-install intructions?? I dont understand what to do afterwards. Thanks in advance for you help

y8s 02-19-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525371)
Excuse me for my error!!!!!! Just called the dyno shop, they said 357 max hp, not whp. Sorry, i was not at the dyno shop when they ran it. 318 ft lbs of toque.

mmm. I hate when drivetrains have 100+hp losses!

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525364)
440 cfm is what the turbo will do by itself, now consider 9:1 compression, E85, 3in. exhaust, on a 20 bar map and 750cc injectors on 255 walboro fuel pump. You do the math.. Want the number for the dyno shop??

Total bullshit

Lower compression and higher octane do not allow for a turbo to make more power than its capable of on higher compression and lower octane. If you think that then you obviously have no fucking clue about how an engine really works.

Go ahead and post the number for the shop, I will call them tomorrow and ask them how they violated the laws of physics.


One of 2 things happened here,

1) Youre full of shit and you came in here trying to be a hot shot, little did you know that many people on here know a LOT more than you. This aint honda-tech.

2) The shop that tuned/dyno'ed your car lied to you about your power numbers and used a big correction factor on the dyno numbers because they know your a fucking idiot and dont know any better.

buffon01 02-19-2010 07:45 PM

3) One of the M.net or CR.net fags decided to return the favor since P15 was dicking around in M.net

Tw34k 02-19-2010 07:58 PM

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gospeed81 02-19-2010 08:02 PM

that wing says it all

Tw34k 02-19-2010 08:05 PM

I would love to see your tune.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 525422)
that wing says it all

how did i miss that

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...622891-020.jpg

mwahahaha

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tw34k (Post 525426)
I would love to see your tune.

rofl

DANGER TO MANIFOLD!

Jeepster118 02-19-2010 08:21 PM

i lol'd for like a straight minute after readin' this thread.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 08:34 PM

http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/maps/td04-15g.gif

spinning that thing high as hell at 20 psi, hahaha

Eadohcturbo 02-19-2010 08:37 PM

Using E85 on 9:1 C/R = :riaa: 20bar map=:bowrofl:

Rafa 02-19-2010 08:49 PM

Which knock sensor are you using?

chicksdigmiatas 02-19-2010 09:19 PM

Dammit were getting our comuppins.
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00mx5se 02-19-2010 09:20 PM

Is that wing going past the body....

chicksdigmiatas 02-19-2010 09:48 PM

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So at 20 psi that would be a PR of 2.36 and 464.625 cfm right? Or did i fail at my calculations? If so.............. Isn't there something terribly wrong with this?

00mx5se 02-19-2010 10:04 PM

^ Did you factor in rice power?

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 10:05 PM

15G at 20 psi = shrapnel

chicksdigmiatas 02-19-2010 10:07 PM

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/spor...Dr.%20Evil.jpg

Or liquid hot Mag-ma.

Tw34k 02-19-2010 10:16 PM

srsly where the fuk is hustler.....

18psi 02-19-2010 10:20 PM

Serious fucking failure detected in this ------ ass thread. OP go end yourself cocksucker

chicksdigmiatas 02-19-2010 10:35 PM

midnight, i would tell you to go kill yourself, but you suck at life so bad, you would probably just fuck that up too.

midnightmiata 02-19-2010 10:58 PM

you all can suck my fat cock and I will piss on your miata's all day at the track you panzee's! Get a fuckin life n stop harrasing other miata owners, you own one too for the record.. This is supposed to be a chat room for miata lovers, not haters, grow up!

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-19-2010 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525529)
you all can suck my fat cock and I will piss on your miata's all day at the track you panzee's! Get a fuckin life n stop harrasing other miata owners, you own one too for the record.. This is supposed to be a chat room for miata lovers, not haters, grow up!

Were harassing you because YOU ARE A LYING SACK OF SHIT

You came on here and claimed to make 350hp on a Greddy 15G turbo, which is completely in the realm of impossibility.
You tried to lie, and we busted you because we are smarter than you.
I am sorry that you are so fucking retarded, but you deserve this.

18psi 02-19-2010 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525529)
you all can suck my fat cock and I will piss on your miata's all day at the track you panzee's! Get a fuckin life n stop harrasing other miata owners, you own one too for the record.. This is supposed to be a chat room for miata lovers, not haters, grow up!

End yourself ------.
Just cause we have the same car as you doesn't mean you can drop in here with your stinky diarrheal bullshit ricer stories and we'll lap them up like the m.net douchenozzles.

I'll bet your mother tried a coat hanger and wasn't successful.
http://www.jviello.com/personal02/fo...d_yourself.jpg

18psi 02-19-2010 11:23 PM

On the other hand, I'm 99% sure this is a troll thread.

Tw34k 02-19-2010 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 525535)

I'll bet your mother tried a coat hanger and wasn't successful.

wait... stop.....:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

y8s 02-20-2010 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by midnightmiata (Post 525529)
you all can suck my fat cock and I will piss on your miata's all day at the track you panzee's! Get a fuckin life n stop harrasing other miata owners, you own one too for the record.. This is supposed to be a chat room for miata lovers, not haters, grow up!

chat room for fat cock lovers you mean!

thirdgen 02-20-2010 12:24 AM

I can't believe the hostility in this thread. Its bullshit. I just put 289hp to the wheels with my stock sr20 turbo cause I got a walbro 255 fuel pump. That was it. So go druel over my win fuckfaces!
In case anybody believes this, you are a fucking retard.

leatherface24 02-20-2010 12:25 AM

Guys wait, i made a mistake. I went to the dyno fuji racing uses. Im really putting out 450 whp with 567tq. Stupid me for being a festering boil on the ass of society

rweatherford 02-20-2010 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas (Post 525482)
So at 20 psi that would be a PR of 2.36 and 464.625 cfm right? Or did i fail at my calculations? If so.............. Isn't there something terribly wrong with this?

I don't really want to post this as someone might misread this as supporting the OP but I guess I will anyway...

Just because the data point is off the map doesn't mean it can't be done or won't do it. If it is off on the left side then it is in compressor surge and won't really work. If it is off the right side it is just building lots of heat because it is outside the efficiency island.

I ran a T3-60 off the map on the right side some on my last car. No problems.

E85 would be very forgiving of high IAT's. So it Methanol. I have datalogs from compound compressors running up to 70 PSI with meth with 400+ F air intake temps. No problems....

FWIW.

If you are really interested I can run the calcs through turbocalc, but I don't know what a 15G compares to on the Garret/AI line of compressors.

neogenesis2004 02-20-2010 12:38 AM

I'm crying....this is a 10/10

rweatherford 02-20-2010 12:51 AM

Ok just for a rough go at it...

7500 RPM
85 % VE @ 7500 RPM
20 PSI
100% Compressor Efficiency
100% IC Efficiency
70 F Air temp
1800 CC

All that =

475 CFM
33.67 Lb/min
365 HP (gross)
256 fl/lbs @ 7500 RPM

Of course if the compressor is at 50% efficiency the air temp raises to 361 F and with an 80% IC efficiency it brings it back down to 129 F. This reduces power to 330 HP.

Perhaps that is optimistic?

That is barely on the map for a T-3 60 if that helps any. But it is on the map and about 65% efficient. Just a little better than the 15G map that was posted.

thirdgen 02-20-2010 02:02 AM

You can't just jump in the ring with Ali cause you think you box!
Listen fuckface.
1) I read this thread from the beginning and members like gospeed81 and slomiata were all like "damn, that is what I want to do with my car, nice numbers" anybody who believes this douche sack is another retard.
2) Then we all saw pictures of this hideous winged disaster. Anybody who runs a wing like that needs to be curbed stomped by me. In case you're not aware of this technique, put your teeth on the curb and let me kick the back of your head in.
3) Then the claims about E85, what a laugh. Sorry to tell you this, but the guy at the dyno laughed so hard when your car pulled up, he actually reloaded the dyno from the previous LS-1 camaro.
4) On the BS forum, start a thread titled "I need a gun guru" and specify what the best caliber is to BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT.
5) Thanks for stopping out tonight.

FRT_Fun 02-20-2010 02:34 AM

Another unworthy potential member chased away, omg how will we go on with out him?!?

gospeed81 02-20-2010 07:42 AM

Nice title change mods...that's like 132hp...a little more accurate.


Guy was just going to spam his way to enough posts to put it in the classifieds anyway:

http://www.mautofied.com/listing-100251040.htm


OP...we generally don't like it when folks come here just to buy or sell. Classifieds are for established members, and not a general marketplace. We also look expect members to contribute.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 02-20-2010 11:09 AM

11k for that!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA


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