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08-09-2017, 08:58 AM
#42
Ebay Turbo ( already have) - 150
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
Also, I have to say no to the ebay wastegate. I have good luck with ebay parts, so do my friends, but his ebay EWG took a dump, and he had to buy a real TIAL one, so drop a little more money there. Your wastegate isn't something you want screwing up anyways. I have a TIAL knock off BOV, and while it sounds nothing like the real one, works flawlessly once I added a 1/4 inch hose barb at the top. Also, since you are welding your own IC pipes, I would just buy mandrel bends off summit and paint them, and skip the ebay hellachromez things.
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08-09-2017, 09:23 AM
#43
Ebay Turbo ( already have) - 150 good churbo1000
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125 good manifold 300
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300 more like 500-600
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40 150
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400 1.8 clutch / flywheel from FM
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80 Tial or turbosmart are good
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 do this (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125 good manifold 300
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300 more like 500-600
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40 150
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400 1.8 clutch / flywheel from FM
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80 Tial or turbosmart are good
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 do this (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
You want a full 3" exhaust mine was in the 700ish range in just materials and i did all the cutting fitting and welding. If this isnt your daily thats more reason to build it good and not cut corners. Buy once cry once. And i have a turbo 1.6 now and its fun by all means and the only reason i have a turbo 1.6 with a gt2860 is because it was free (see build thread to see why) But if i did it over again i would have gone with way better components and had a faster spooling more powerful car.
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08-09-2017, 09:27 AM
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@kmo25 has the only budget build that I've seen that has been both successful in keeping costs low and maintaining reliability
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...t-build-89969/
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...t-build-89969/
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08-09-2017, 09:30 AM
#46
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Ebay Turbo ( already have) - 150
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
Taco taco manifold (already have) - 125
Custom Downpipe - let's say 300
Mspnp (don't know which one yet) - 800
cx racing Intercooler ( already have) - 90
Ebay Intercooler pipes + anything extra not in kit - 100
ebay Oil lines - 40
Act clutch ( haven't done enough research yet to see if lightweight flywheel is needed) - 400
ebay WG ( we will see what happens) - 80
Ebay bov ( we will see what happens) -50
Intake - 30
Force flow dynamics Injectors - 300 (unless I find cheaper better option)
Boost gauge -50
Wideband - 200
Total - 2715
So this leaves me with a little over $1000 to get a exhaust setup, make mistakes and buy any other things I will need along the way and be at the same price of the mk kit. Plus I get a clutch. sorry for all the misunderstanding. I guess the title of the thread was a little misleading but my question was not what turbo should I get but if it was the same one as the one used in the mk kit. It is the same turbo but it doesn't have a wastegate and doesn't have a vband. I kind of already knew that just wanted reassurance. I do appreciate all the advice. Do you guys think not having the vband will create a little more room for a downpipe? So I could possible go with a 3" downpipe? Just a thought.
And sorry about my comment on the t3 vs the 2554 I'm sure that does come from a lot of biased research. I have obviously have no experience but i have read in a few threads that they have similar spool.
This will not be my daily driver btw. I'm just a 19 year old kid trying to learn a thing a or two. It's all going to be okay.
You will spend more the $40 on oil lines. The 2 flanges for the turbo inlet and outlet are $15 a piece on ATP turbo. Plan on spending $25 on the TSE oil adapter feed. For actual AN lines, please do not shop on eBay for those. When they leak and your engine bay goes up in flames you will be upset. Oil lines are one of the places you should not cheap out on. If you want to roll your own I suggest Mocal fittings from Bat INC, or look in your phone book for a local hydraulic shop and go there and have them make you lines.
Your IC pipes and couplers budget of $100 is underpriced. If you have AC and PS expect to spend a good bit more then that. As routing around those on the hot side is a pita. If you can't weld aluminum, then your costs will go up even more. I would budget close to $150-$200 for all those pipes and couplers and clamps. Siliconeintakes.com is your friend for all of those pieces. I also source my BOV from there.
Your downpipe price is probably a bit low. I would expect any shop to charge between $400-700 for a custom DP, especially one with an EWG that needs to be routed back into the exhaust.
Go with a FM or 949 clutch and a 1.8 flywheel. Both those hold more torque then the ACT clutches, have better pedal feel, and cost less.
Plan on a bit more then $30 for the intake. A good K&N filter alone will be that much, then you will have a coupler, pipes, and clamps. $50 is a much closer value.
For the ECU you want a MS3 of some sort. Don't waste time or energy going with anything older. It will just make you hate the tuning process.
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08-09-2017, 11:05 AM
#48
You want a full 3" exhaust mine was in the 700ish range in just materials and i did all the cutting fitting and welding. If this isnt your daily thats more reason to build it good and not cut corners. Buy once cry once. And i have a turbo 1.6 now and its fun by all means and the only reason i have a turbo 1.6 with a gt2860 is because it was free (see build thread to see why) But if i did it over again i would have gone with way better components and had a faster spooling more powerful car.
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