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romanservices 01-30-2011 06:45 PM

Noob in MD - I will search before asking :)
 
Hey all, Just got my first Miata today. I have been searching for a while for a good track / autocross car. Most everyone says get a Miata so I did.

Here's what I got.

1999 1.8 107k Miles - in fair condition - some scratches, dings and dents no major rust or show stoppers however the hood needs repair in the front as well as the rear bumper.

I was able to pick one up that has already had some mods. The previous owner was very good about keeping receipts and handed them all over to me when I bought it. I think with a little work I can get these mods back up to spec and have a decent car.

The following list was from the sellers listing - I have confirmed visually and with receipts that this is accurate. Could not visually confirm the motor rebuild but have receipts and sn's of parts used.

Suspension:
Tein Flex coilovers corner balanced @ Atspeed in Hanover, MD Full
Energy Suspension polyurethane bushings along with polyurthane differential mounts.
Racing Beat rear anti-swaybar w/ adjustable endlinks.
DBA slotted brake rotors
Braded brake lines (not installed)
Racing Lugstuds extened length and stronger than stock for the 15/225's
949 Racing light weight lugnuts

Motor:
Mishimoto aluminum radiator
Racing Beat daul tip muffler and Roadster Sport mid-pipe w/ cat.
Motor was build to handle boost w/ lower compression pistions, stronger rods, and 1mm oversized valves both intake and exhaust
225lb walbro intank fuel pump
Mazda Speed competition motor mounts
K&N air filter
Stock limited slip differential


Not Installed but came with it:

Xede ECU with fuel maps on a CD, 550CC injectors, exhaust header and down pipe, Garrett M24 ar.80 turbo (needs to be rebuilt) Confirmed this is the BEGi kit as i got the install manual with it.

Interior:
Stock Nardi steering wheel
Voodoo shift knob
Hard Dog Hardcore rollbar w/ harness tabs
Trackdog Racing 3 guage guagepanel w/ autometer boost guage and a clock


I'm happy to take advice on what to look for or what to start with first. - I know I want to get this turbo on and working. First I need to go through the entire car tighten/torque everything and clean up some rushed work. Should I get this M24 rebuilt or go with something different?

18psi 01-30-2011 06:53 PM

Welcome.
I don't think m24 is the turbos name. Its probably a 2554 or 2560.
What are your plans and power goals with the car?

Also post pics and update your location in profile.

romanservices 01-30-2011 06:59 PM

Thanks, I will get some pics up tomorrow it's dark out now.
I would like to hit 200 whp start off with. run that for a while to get used to the car then bump it up a bit.

18psi 01-30-2011 07:29 PM

Should be easy to get to 200 with your mod list, but definitely add an intercooler to that.

romanservices 02-02-2011 10:33 AM

Ok here are some pics

anyone able to tell me what turbo this is?

http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000724.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000725.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000726.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000727.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000728.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000729.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000730.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000731.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000732.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000733.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000734.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000735.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000736.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000737.jpg
http://173.69.129.13/downloads/mkfol...a/p1000738.jpg

Braineack 02-02-2011 10:52 AM

sure on the right path for a noob.

Sean 02-02-2011 10:52 AM

Nice car seems you are pretty much set to get started. Welcome to the forum I am another MD guy too, I live in Frederick. If you really wanna go fast though you are defiantly gonna need a 2JZ in that thing. You could put it in cheap if you need any help let me know.lol :)

Faeflora 02-02-2011 11:08 AM

Where in MD are you? I am in Baltimore and have a heavily modified miata.

If you want to be able to get through MD emissions without trouble, I would stick with the xede. You can hit 300hp on that though which is pretty damn fun.

The engine bearings and headgasket in the pics confuse me. Didn't you say that the engine that is in the car is built? If not, stick to a 240whp target.

Need some more details on that turbo. Any other markings or numbers etc on it?

romanservices 02-02-2011 11:55 AM

Thanks for the good words, Im in the Pasadena area. as far as the turbo its marked Garrett M24 A/R.80 - I need to replace it(it's shot). The extra gaskets and bearings worried me also when I pulled them out of a parts box. however I think I know why they are there. in the engine rebuild receipt it indicates that after magnafluxing the crank they found a crack and got in a new one, so I'm thinking they had to use a different size bearings on the new crank. The seller told me that the first head he had done from flying miata was bad and had to get a new one so that + the rebuild kit = 2 sets of head gaskets ?? I hope ...lol



Faeflora I hope you don't mind if I ask you a few questions down the road, 300 whp in this car sounds demonic....and I want it!! I did find some other mods already done like a light weight fly wheel and heavy duty clutch.

Braineack 02-02-2011 12:00 PM

why is the turbo bad?

romanservices 02-02-2011 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 685381)
why is the turbo bad?

the shaft wiggles like 1/4 inch side to side and back n fourth. I have not taken it apart but I sure the housings are shot from contact.

Braineack 02-02-2011 12:12 PM

1/4" is a lot. if you cant make the wheel the contact when spinning, it should be okay. Push on it hard and rotate trying to make contact.

Sean 02-02-2011 12:13 PM

The M24 Garrett is the stock turbo off a sr20T They can be had for under $100 all day on ebay I am trying to hunt one down right now for my 1.8T jetta. They are small but not too small and are easy to come by. I would not worry about it too much and if you have that much play deff get a new one.

Does it look like this?

http://www.weekendhobby.com/sale/pic...2552193803.JPG

This seems to be the most common configuration. I have seen and they make them in a bunch of different A/R's

romanservices 02-02-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Sean (Post 685394)
The M24 Garrett is the stock turbo off a sr20T They can be had for under $100 all day on ebay I am trying to hunt one down right now for my 1.8T jetta. They are small but not too small and are easy to come by. I would not worry about it too much and if you have that much play deff get a new one.

Does it look like this?

http://www.weekendhobby.com/sale/pic...2552193803.JPG

This seems to be the most common configuration. I have seen and they make them in a bunch of different A/R's

looks similar however mine does not have the 2 bolt flanges - the hose just goes right on - darn I hate beening a noob not knowing what to call things. lol...

Sean 02-02-2011 01:31 PM

Its all good if you ebay search Garrett M24 there is a bunch of them and worst case if you buy one with the 2 bolt inlet flange you can get the adapter on ebay for another 30 bucks or so. Trust me being a noob is no big deal just think twice before asking a question and always Google and search your question first.

shuiend 02-02-2011 01:51 PM

Or if the turbo is bad, You could pick up any other sized t25 and put it on.

romanservices 10-11-2011 01:17 AM

update, project delayed during the summer but is back on track. Got a used turbo installed with a new intercooler and BOV. My xede turned out to be bad. Sent it to BEGi for testing, long story short DHL lost it on the way to Australia .. Lucky for me BEGi insured it so I got a new one at no cost.

I keep reading about the budget builds and I think I have everyone beat. When I bought this car I was handed a stack of receipts of everything done. So I know all the mods are legit. Once I got home I totaled it up and it was pushing 12k for everything.

here is the kicker... I bought the car for 3k paid an extra 500 for the turbo parts, xede & injectors. I picked up a solid used turbo for about 100 and the intercooler and BOV were another 300

3900 so far into the entire car... How am I doing so far for a noob ;-)

18psi 10-11-2011 01:48 AM

pretty damn good it sounds like.
now just get it all to work, run right, and stay that way, which is the hard part.
you're definitely on the right track though. good job

thirdgen 10-11-2011 08:36 AM

You need to be at the dyno day on Saturday in mt Airy, MD. Be there or be square.

romanservices 10-11-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 782133)
You need to be at the dyno day on Saturday in mt Airy, MD. Be there or be square.

as in this next saturday? can't :( car is not ready yet. still working out the tune, need to install the 550 injectors and ahem.. i kinda need to solve this headlight issue I am having. In my routing of the IC tubes I decided the headlights were to bulky and in the way. figuring there must be some sort of aftermarket solution out there I took them out. Right now I'm looking at using just the clear lense and fabbing up a back panel to hold some round projectors with halo's

thirdgen 10-11-2011 10:24 AM

This might be what you're wanting to do:
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...ht=99-00+light
As far as I/C plumbling, I NEVER found that my headlights were in the way, and I NEVER had any reason to tamper with them.

thirdgen 10-11-2011 10:25 AM

You should just go to the dyno day anyway to meet some of us and get some good ideas about the direction you want to take with your car.

romanservices 10-11-2011 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 782165)
You should just go to the dyno day anyway to meet some of us and get some good ideas about the direction you want to take with your car.

I might, where exactly is this at?

thirdgen 10-11-2011 01:05 PM

https://www.miataturbo.net/local-meets-events-tech-days-41/md-va-pa-fall-dyno-day-meet-oct-15-11-a-59705/

York Automotive
300 South Main Street
Mt Airy, MD 21771-5389

Faeflora 10-11-2011 01:42 PM

Yup, there will be a bunch of turbo'd setups there. Good info and inspiration. We are doing shots at 9AM sharp.

shuiend 10-11-2011 02:02 PM

Be there or I ban you, how is that for motivation. You will also get free pizza for lunch.


I won't actually ban you if you don't come.

Braineack 10-11-2011 03:29 PM

its not free if someone *COUGH* has to pay for it.

shuiend 10-11-2011 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 782300)
its not free is someone. *COUGH* has to pay for it.

It is free for him, as in he does not have to pay for it. It is not free for Rick. We will make sure we send him more pictures of the yummy pizza.

romanservices 10-11-2011 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 782275)
Be there or I ban you, how is that for motivation. You will also get free pizza for lunch.


I won't actually ban you if you don't come.

lol...Doh!! my existence on MiataTurbo was short lived.
**EDIT** I don't suppose I can throw my 4Matic up on that Dyno?

mx5autoxer 10-11-2011 04:36 PM

$3k? You got a hell of a deal. Super jealous.

shuiend 10-11-2011 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by romanservices (Post 782312)
lol...Doh!! my existence on MiataTurbo was short lived.
**EDIT** I don't suppose I can throw my 4Matic up on that Dyno?

What is a 4Matic? If it is 2wd you can put it on the dyno for $50.

romanservices 10-11-2011 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 782344)
What is a 4Matic? If it is 2wd you can put it on the dyno for $50.

4Matic is what Mercedes calls AWD

Faeflora 10-11-2011 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 782306)
It is free for him, as in he does not have to pay for it. It is not free for Rick. We will make sure we send him more pictures of the yummy pizza.

I will pay for a vegan pizza... two. cash

MicaCeli 10-14-2011 01:21 PM

Welcome, I am a Frednekian like Sean also.

Damn it you guys do dyno days everytime I have to do something.

atank 10-14-2011 11:22 PM

Nice to have you here!!

shuiend 10-15-2011 09:59 PM

It was nice to meet you Mark. I hope you enjoyed the dyno day and we look forward to you dynoing in the spring.

romanservices 10-16-2011 04:19 PM

Thanks - It was cool! got to see some killer Miatas and meet some cool people. Can't wiat for the spring I'm itching to get on the track now.

Faeflora 10-16-2011 06:22 PM

Hey Mark this is Min. Your baby took to the dyno noise very well :)

Let me know when you want me to come by to check out the fueling for your xede. It should be pretty straightforward.

romanservices 10-16-2011 08:31 PM

Yeah need to start her off early... I just ordered some new injector o-rings and a new plenum gasket so I can get the 550's installed. I'm sure they will be here before the weekend so if your not doing anything next weekend I should be ready.


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