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Old 05-22-2009, 01:41 AM   #21
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welcome to the forums fellow new englander! lol

i was in your same position a year ago
i bought a 90 that needed some love and my goal was to turbo it

found an amazing deal on a clean, low milage 91 so i got it
then i still wanted to turbo the 1.6

then i found a 1.8 with a fm manifold and gt30r turbo for cheap
so i got it

and its been sitting around for a couple weeks now collecting dust
but since i missed the midnight run that we do up here last year i was very determined to get it done by june 6th for the next run.

well needless to say i spend almost $5000 yesterday for parts for my motor alone
and i still need and intercooler and exhaust set up...

and since it seems you just graduated high school and are about to go to college
id personally say move your completion date to spring next year and enjoy your youth lol

if you want to meet up sometime im in the saugus area alot which aint to far from boston
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:29 PM   #22
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If you end up swapping difs you'll need the 1.8 driveline and axles.

(I have my first trip to Boston this week!)
i was eventually hoping for a welded diff or the guts from a tII rx7 to swap in. i wouldnt wanna change that much over, just sticking to basic essentials for now lol. im cheap

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welcome to the forums fellow new englander! lol
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and since it seems you just graduated high school and are about to go to college
id personally say move your completion date to spring next year and enjoy your youth lol

if you want to meet up sometime im in the saugus area alot which aint to far from boston
wassup bayside blue! its good to see that im not the only one in the MA area here hahah.

well, my last day is may 26th, but finals that whole week
then i gotta wait till june 6th for graduation.

i would love to move my completion date to next spring, but i wanna get my swap/turbo setup done in less time than it took for my brothers SR swap, we have a sorta sibling rivalry going on and i will have the funds to hopefully get all this **** done within a couple months. he spends 5k and a full year on an upgraded sr20 that he had to replace...im going to spend 3-4k within a month or two, lets see if i can do it


that would be kinda sick. specifically i live in braintree, 15 minutes away from boston on a good day...

u guys want some pics of my car or my girl? choose wisely...haha
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i was eventually hoping for a welded diff or the guts from a tII rx7 to swap in. i wouldnt wanna change that much over, just sticking to basic essentials for now lol. im cheap
On the 1.6 dif its the gears that are weak, and if you want to use the rx7 guts those go in the 1.8 housing.
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:12 PM   #24
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On the 1.6 dif its the gears that are weak, and if you want to use the rx7 guts those go in the 1.8 housing.

so ur saying that i would need to swap the 1.8 axles and housing in order to use the TII lsd?

and thanks for all your help turboroach, toddcod, anyone else that have helped me out here.


anyways, ill probably start sourcing the parts out in a couple weeks. just gotta find the TII diff, shouldnt have a problem finding the 1.8 miata housing and axles though. (any new englanders know of junkyards that consistently carry miatas? everetts in brockton only had ONE NA miata...) then i gotta start working on my suspension, and finally get rid of my damn snow tires
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I'm a little confused.

Did you buy a car with a blowed motor?

Or have you bought one yet?

Here is the breakdown.

If you have a running 1.6L FORGET SWAPPING ALL THE CRAP! Just get a complete kit.

If you are broke like I was in HS and college. Just get a used greddy kit.

Forget the upgrade crap{MS. etc etc}. The stock kit is plenty and the biggest bang for your buck! Bolt it up in one day, and have an extra 60hp to the ground with 6 psi.
I don't know of any other car you can get 40-60hp for $500. And you don't wait a year, or hate the car from everything not lining up right ,or taking forever and costing a million $

And you can always sell the bandaids as you get cash to upgrade if you choose.

If you want to be special, add USED 1.8L injectors a USED "Msd or bipes", a $12.00 nxs boost controller. Run 8-9 psi with a wbo2, ebay intercooler. The car will be crazy fast compared to stock.

$$$ for $$$ it isn't worth the 1.8l swap for the hp. Now if you have to buy a motor anyways and you have no kit. That is different. Or if you are deciding on a car.

But if you are having to gather parts, or don't plan on completely building the internals. Either motor is good for 250hp. They have the same rods. Some guys push the envelope and tune madly. But...... Either motor can have ringland failure after 250hp.


But I wouldn't swap rearends till it blows. I got a yr out of mine.

Now if you have free abundant cash, or find a good deal on a fm or begi mani and downpipe, that is what I would go with.

But it is too easy to just bolt up a kit than to build everything. Unless you just have made skills and all the equipment in a garage.

Trust me, I am a good mechanic and have been both routes. The cost goes crazy.

I just use USED prebuilt kits now.

I have also saved forever to get ms before turbo and all that crap. I should of just turbo'ed and then save for the mspnp I bought. I could of been driving turbo 6 months earlier.

Remember if the budget isn't capable of doing it all at once, and you have to wait a yr. Screw it. Craw before you walk.
Get low boost and work from there. Otherwise it will take forever, you hate the car and lose intrest. And have a bunch of extra parts in the garage you try to sell. If you don't belive me. Check the parts for sale for "Major PART SALE" LOL. It happens everyday.

If you have a boosted car and add something everyonce in a while for power. You stay enthuzed, and love it.

Good Luck!

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Old 05-25-2009, 10:43 PM   #26
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so ur saying that i would need to swap the 1.8 axles and housing in order to use the TII lsd?
Yup, the rx7 and 1.8 use a 7 inch ring gear and the 1.6 is only 6 inch. There is bound to be a thread somewhere around here that has more of the details for you.

Todd's right. My car was a lot of fun with the base greddy kit and a bipes.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:26 AM   #27
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I'm a little confused.

Did you buy a car with a blowed motor?

Or have you bought one yet?

Here is the breakdown.

If you have a running 1.6L FORGET SWAPPING ALL THE CRAP! Just get a complete kit.

If you are broke like I was in HS and college. Just get a used greddy kit.

Forget the upgrade crap{MS. etc etc}. The stock kit is plenty and the biggest bang for your buck! Bolt it up in one day, and have an extra 60hp to the ground with 6 psi.
I don't know of any other car you can get 40-60hp for $500. And you don't wait a year, or hate the car from everything not lining up right ,or taking forever and costing a million $

And you can always sell the bandaids as you get cash to upgrade if you choose.

If you want to be special, add USED 1.8L injectors a USED "Msd or bipes", a $12.00 nxs boost controller. Run 8-9 psi with a wbo2, ebay intercooler. The car will be crazy fast compared to stock.

$$$ for $$$ it isn't worth the 1.8l swap for the hp. Now if you have to buy a motor anyways and you have no kit. That is different. Or if you are deciding on a car.

But if you are having to gather parts, or don't plan on completely building the internals. Either motor is good for 250hp. They have the same rods. Some guys push the envelope and tune madly. But...... Either motor can have ringland failure after 250hp.


But I wouldn't swap rearends till it blows. I got a yr out of mine.

Now if you have free abundant cash, or find a good deal on a fm or begi mani and downpipe, that is what I would go with.

But it is too easy to just bolt up a kit than to build everything. Unless you just have made skills and all the equipment in a garage.

Trust me, I am a good mechanic and have been both routes. The cost goes crazy.

I just use USED prebuilt kits now.

I have also saved forever to get ms before turbo and all that crap. I should of just turbo'ed and then save for the mspnp I bought. I could of been driving turbo 6 months earlier.

Remember if the budget isn't capable of doing it all at once, and you have to wait a yr. Screw it. Craw before you walk.
Get low boost and work from there. Otherwise it will take forever, you hate the car and lose intrest. And have a bunch of extra parts in the garage you try to sell. If you don't belive me. Check the parts for sale for "Major PART SALE" LOL. It happens everyday.

If you have a boosted car and add something everyonce in a while for power. You stay enthuzed, and love it.

Good Luck!
ya that sums it up head on, ive been looking at my miata for a year now and rather then drive it ive been saving to buy the best parts i can.

and here i am almost a year later and still aint driving the car(well i should be in about a week)
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:06 PM   #28
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I'm a little confused.

Did you buy a car with a blowed motor?
...

If you have a running 1.6L FORGET SWAPPING ALL THE CRAP! Just get a complete kit.

If you are broke like I was in HS and college. Just get a used greddy kit.
the car has 200k miles on it and its starting to leak some oil. im thinking its from multiple places but if i cared about the motor, id try my best to get it to stop, but the guy who owned this car before me was the biggest street racer ever and who knows what the dude did with the motor other than this:

he rewired the MAF for some unknown reason, theres a hole in the exhaust probably coming from the 'welded on' test pipe, diy ram air intake made out of playground tubing or something...im sure the MAF is reading things ALL wrong took out the cruise control, and "other thigns that didnt really need to be there"

i want to get a clean motor and maybe a new engine harness and start stock. thats basically the reason i need a swap.

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$$$ for $$$ it isn't worth the 1.8l swap for the hp. Now if you have to buy a motor anyways and you have no kit. That is different. Or if you are deciding on a car.
im still going to stick with a new 1.6. only reason why i considered the 1.8 was because it had a bigger displacement and it looked to me that it would provide more substantial numbers and be easier to do. i dont really need more than 250hp though so i dont think that swap is right for me.

theres many swaps i considered. the 80 % complete sr20 in my garage with wiring and tranny (gt2860rs) tII rotary, a rb20det needing one valve...

ill pick one of these swaps to do once the 1.6 blows or something happens.

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But if you are having to gather parts, or don't plan on completely building the internals. Either motor is good for 250hp. They have the same rods. Some guys push the envelope and tune madly. But...... Either motor can have ringland failure after 250hp.
i plan on swapping the rods out with some arp rods anyways, but thats later...i might always want to turbo the boost up at some point but as far as right now goes, im only worried about getting the turbo kit, and making it run. im envious of my brothers 240.

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But I wouldn't swap rearends till it blows. I got a yr out of mine.

Now if you have free abundant cash, or find a good deal on a fm or begi mani and downpipe, that is what I would go with.
eh, my diff is making knocks and what not. it doesnt seem like its gonna hold up much longer. probably gonna join the rx7 forum and see if i can find me a cheap tII diff. i would want to change my axles too.

i wish i had abundant cash. LOL. if i have some of the accident money im getting left, ill remember to get those two.

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Remember if the budget isn't capable of doing it all at once, and you have to wait a yr. Screw it. Crawl before you walk.
Get low boost and work from there. Otherwise it will take forever, you hate the car and lose intrest. And have a bunch of extra parts in the garage you try to sell. If you don't belive me. Check the parts for sale for "Major PART SALE" LOL. It happens everyday.
haha i believe it. where can you guess that i got the sr20 from? it started off as a 'running', tuned sr20 with a 2860. my brother was going for 300hp in his first turbo car. ends up the motor was heavily used by the guy selling it (if anyone knows Russ at JNR motorsports in NH, thats the guy) it had a blown head gasket, oil sitting on top of the pistons, a messed up ecu, and a broken shifter, etc...i mean he only had 3 bolts connecting the trans to the engine, come on. the dudes still trying to say it was my brothers fault since he didnt let him finish (Russ said it would be done initially in two months. took a year.)

well, now my brother has a stock sr20, and loves it, got it done in two weeks. he couldve gone that way at first and saved 5,00 dollars i mentioned this before i believe.

i might save the busted sr20 and build it back up. or ill just take my friends rb20 and get a valve for it and fix that. either way one of these motors are gonna find their way into the miata eventually.

anyways, my plan is to do everything by steps like you mentioned. that way im not focused on a large goal for a short time and short money.
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