so i bought this turd for 1k
 

thoughts?

-ps belt taken off?
Ac lines cut out and interior completely gutted but the ac compressor is still there?!?
got a bumper and support on there
massive exhaust leak
fans controlled by switch, probably overheated.
bad wheel bearing
horrible brakes


has a hard dog roll bar
supposedly w/lsd
came with cxracing turbo manifold and front mount w/ some piping
runs and drives



Plans are to get the brakes and cooling sorted out, add the bilstein's to it that i picked up, and maybe turbo the 1.6 / 1.8 swap and turbo / lm7(ls1) and t56


hoping for 250+whp cone slayer more interested in response and torque than whp#'s.

Im wondering if its possible for under 1k with everything I have now (would need a t25/8 and wg, bov, oil, injectors, and diypnp

Not sure exactly what you are asking, but my used ms3 was like 750.....so......

im wondering if i should try to get rid of the car an get a 1.8 car or if its possible to get to stated goals for 1-2k

If you aren't totally in love with that 1.6, sell it. When you buy it 1.8,you get: bigger brakes, bigger clutch, bigger axles and a bigger differential.

You vastly underestimate how much it will take to turbo your car and not have it explode.

1.6's do require alot more to safely turbo as stated above^. i believe the only reason i did my 1.6 is i have a strong connection to the car and a healthy motor.

Think I'll shoot for that then. I'm just hoping I can get out of this car without losing $

Any guesses as to what I could sell this thing for? It does have a bumper now and i already bought all the brake parts

Do the 1.6 and 1.8 bolt up to the same transmission? and motor mounts?

The 5 and 6 speed transmissions bolt to all 90-05 motors fine. The motor mount brackets are different for 1.8 cars. The 1.8 drops right in though with the correct motor mounts.

good to know - maybe the right play is just to buy a 1.8 and put some rods and pistons in it and swap it in down the road. I would need a new turbo mani but the rest should all swap over...

how much of a limiting factor is the axles and diff? (ie what power level are they mostly safe until?)

The stock 1.6 diff breaks at stock power levels. You are looking at $500-$1000 to replace it with a 1.8 setup. That will include the diff, axles, and driveshaft which all need to be replaced.

If you are planning on building a 1.8 motor, expect to be $2500 or so into the bottom end. Your best bet if you want a built motor is to call Savington@TrackSpeedEngineering and write him a check for $3000 and get the built bottom end he has sitting on the shelf.

sell the turd. it's not worth 1k at all. it looks like a $250 piece of trash

buy a real car

you want to buy it I make you a nice price


looking around on CL and other places locally looks like it'll be 3g's plus for the NB that run and drive



Thanks for the feedback everyone

Yeah, that's a bit of a risk for $1k. Finish stripping it, fix the brakes and the wheel bearing, new fan switch in the thermostat housing (probably why the fans are on a switch), flat black the bumper, and hope to get $250 above what you've now put in to it.

i figured worst case- sell the roll bar 300 manifold 150 and intercooler and piping 150. im at 600... can probably get another 250 for the wheels (4 rims and 2 steelies). still leaves me the whole car for 150 ish


I might just keep it how is it for my wife to beat on so I dont have to worry about her destroying a nice car.


Thanks again guys for all the quick info

The manifold sells for like $100 new on eBay.

this manifold Turbo Manifold for 89 93 Miata 1 6L with T25 T28 Turbo Flange | eBay

ya, that one can be found for 100 shipped on ebay.

it's a raging pile of junk, so you'll have to find someone stupid enough to buy it even for 100

You can find them for cheaper. All of those ones are complete crap and will crack on you. If I had one I would throw it in the trash before selling it to someone and making them suffer.

Take all the stuff you bought, back to the store. Sell that turd and hope to just get your money back. Learn a little more about these cars and what you want to do with one.

Take this new found knowledge and make a better purchase decision next time.

what?!
do you mean to tell him that it's not smart to spontaneously buy a bunch of stuff and then try to figure out if it's junk or not?

buy first, research later

I mean its a car I would probably buy, but I would buy it to make it work in GRM 2016 Challenge or something like that. For a very specific purpose, and I also have the knowledge to fix it and make it work.

turbo stuff came with the car
only bought brakes for 150 ish stoptechs and centrics. the have worked well for the price on my other autox setups. bumper and lights for 75


i would be doing all the work myself and it wouldnt be first time.

its a non dd, bought it to get used to rwd autox and track - GRM 2017 challenge went through my mind but that isnt the sole purpose

im not trying to restore it to factory so the fact that its gutted is ok with me.

Further illustrating that you made an uninformed decision.

1.6 for auto x- already at a disadvantage. Small engine turd.
Ebay manifold and parts- Turds
Probably beat to death chassis and suspension components- turds

See the common theme?
Put this TURD in someone else's pocket.

Again, take back all of your purchased parts, sell the car, and try again.

my sig, as soon as I figure out how to put it down there...

I understood that the 1.6 was at a disadvantage- i also understood it was way less $$ than a 1.8 car.


ill do what i do with it. thanks for the info

A decent condition 1.8 NA can be had for 1500 to 2500. I got one not long ago for 2300. 1996, 125,000mi. No rust Jewel.

I bought a ratty $700 1.6 as my starting point as well.
For $700 it was a total riot. I drove the piss out of the 1.6 and it just refused to quit.
I've been tinkering with it for a year or two and its ended up being a great learning experience in all things automotive.
There are a lot of naysayers that are constantly trolling for good deals, so to them, yeah this probably wasn't a great buy.
For you and the amount of fun you get out of the car, it could be the best buy of the year.

I'd probably pull the turbo stuff until you get the cast manifold/ecu/injectors to properly manage the forced induction.
It's going to cost money and putting total target $$ amounts on anything is futile.
Decide whether the excitement of building your megasquirt and tuning your car is worth it and go from there.

They told you to get more car for less money.

How terrible of them.

Such naysayers.

who cares about getting good deals and maximizing your money. it's all about dem feelz

all that matters is feelz

:likecat:

Damn dude, just trying to offer some encouragement...
Everyone has to start somewhere.
I had never even pulled an engine before I picked up my little gem.

We did offer encouragement. We encouraged him to sell the self titled Turd, and buy something else.

I ask completely seriously:

Do you appreciate being told the truth in a harsh manner or lies in a very friendly/nice manner?

Do you like to be encouraged to waste money for no reason?

I'm genuinely curious.

I'm not mad, I'm not trolling, I'm seriously curious to know what you guys think.

lolz.

OP, Sell your turd+ Buy this turd= Profit
https://www.miataturbo.net/cars-sale...top-dfw-89110/

How do "I" like to receive information? It doesn't matter, I'm an adult. I've seen the dragon.
My interests in cars is for intellectual and not material gain.

Enough about me. Really I didn't notice all the flaky posts about the op trying to flip a sh#tbox.
Flipping a sh#tbox only dumps more sh#t on you.
If he were interested in legitimately building the car, no matter what the starting point is, then I would hope that we would help and not just rain on the parade.
I hear if you save a miata you get your wings.

Yep, and that's exactly what we do.
We give people valuable advice to not dump their (hopefully) hard earned money into a pile of poo.

But if someone loves a certain car (even a 1.6L teehee) and is dead set on working with what they have, no one rains on any parades :)

:facepalm::hatecat:

many assumptions made

hella opinions


Im going to keep it and beat on if for a while for fun, and figure out plans later.

Your use of that word tells us everything we need to know about you
:)
good luck and have fun

I just got a text from the future...hold on.

HELLA
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464035733

That car looks like it has syphilis. Not "hurr durr car syphilis" like rust or grime, but actual literal Treponema pallidum.

And NPR just reported that Pfizer is running low on syphilis vaccine. ..

We managed to get my friend's $1500 bed linered turbo 91 up and working well for a reasonable amount. His seems to have been in slightly better shape than this one though. All told, by the time he gets it done (clutch, different manifold and turbo, ecu, fuel injectors, maintenance and other things) he will be into it for a grand total of $4k. Selling the stuff that is on it now that is being replaced should net about $400-800 depending on what drift kiddies are around to sell it to.

That said, I have spent the last 3 years reading everything I can about how to turbo a miata on this site and that is the only reason this car is even running still at this point. The way the previous owner had it set up would have self destructed in a few hundred miles at best. (like trying to run 15lbs of boost on the stock 1.6 injectors with just a voodoo box...)

not sure why everyone assumes this car is in bad shape- just needs brakes and fan switch

not going to turbo a 1.6, i might swap in a 1.8 if I can get one reasonable priced or i might just enjoy this can an fix it up a little then sell for a better one

Probably because you actually called it a "Turd". This implies that it is indeed, a pile of shit..

Glad to hear that it might not be the case. Post some pics for the court.

Yeah I guess we were crazy to think the car is in bad shape :dunno:

Just needs brakes and a fan switch? Now you're starting to sound like a Craigslist ad.

That has to be one of the biggest piece of shit Miatas I've seen advertised in a while. What have you done to that poor thing? It has aids and is trying to infect us all.

fair enough - might be able to snag some more tonight.

hahaha


its in bad shape if you want to return it to stock. for my purposes its ok...
probably could have got the price down a little more, but for a running driving miata i think i did ok

That's all that matters.

I won't argue that a $1000 for a running driving beater miata that you don't care about is not a bad deal.

looking at the pictures I'd completely agree it's a pile of poo. I mean, just look at it :barf:




...........but if you're happy, that's great. enjoy the car
PS: it's actually a lot of fun to own a beater like that cause you can just thrash it and not care. still a beater tho

I actually kind of did what he did. My car was in way rough shape when I started. I love it now, but it took me a LONG time and a LOT of money to get where I am today. I could have looked for a cleaner starting point and saved a ton of headaches and thousands of dollars. I think that's the gist of everyone's advice.

Here are some more pics of the car. Sorry for my terrible phone camera. Cant really see much
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

I was reinstalling the battery and tray and tie downs and mounts. Dude just had the battery connected to the cables floating around (New battery at least!)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493
This is what glare looks like. I kind of like the shitty "dash" here, but for some reason the speedo is mounted front and center and the tach is in the center console area. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493
body is actually pretty straight and they did an ok job of rolling the fenders
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493
Hopefully the IC will just plug in and work - it wont work but hopefully it will be easy to sort out the hacks.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464265493

sold for 185 shipped ;)

bravo. Don't tell them about this forum :)

And here is how she turned out.... Was a bit of work:

Front Pass Wheel Bearing

Both tie rod ends

Both lower ball joints

Shifter rebuild

Bilstein Hard S dampers and diy coilovers

all 4 rotors and pads

Radiator fan rewire

fixed ricer intake issues


Fastest miata at this autox and something like 5th best time ( behind 3 c5zo6's on r comps and some talented drivers in faster cars)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...77d3175a59.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e98ea51241.jpg
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Hernando County Airport near Brooksville, and it looks like Florida Corvette Racing Club.

Yup, you partake?

It's been awhile. Those are the best guys for autocross events. I started with them in 2003ish. Great relaxed atmosphere and lots of run time. I started doing track days in 2010 and stopped going out with them except on rare occasions.

nice. where are the cheap track days at?

Saw the firm but its like 200+ for a day...

$200 is cheap for a day. Up here, you are looking at $300+ unless you go to the TNiA or Englishtown where they let you out on track with no instructor.