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Old 04-29-2008, 12:39 PM   #21
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edit: get yourself an ebay pos 1.8 you dont want to have to mess with the conversions
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Old 04-29-2008, 03:13 PM   #22
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My car is a track car and I am into it for (mods alone) 12k. and there is still quite a bit to do.

Basically from what it sounds like get a 97-99 1.8L with a torsen 3.9 rear end, (spend the extra money and get the 99 because that is the most sought after head). Remove the engine and get yourself a POS 1.6 for the mean time. easiest way to make power is head work and turbo. If you dont care about low end then a t3/t4 may better suit you. Thats what I am running (I love it and it has almost NO lag). There are not as many ready made solutions for it but you will find that the general consensus is a t3/t4 is a powerhouse. my car is not properly tuned and i have 195 whp @14psi on a 1.6... currently I need to dyno and tune because I am running 18psi..

Once you break 250-300whp you start running into problems... EXPENSIVE problems like a new quaffe tranny $2800.

but besides that.. you can make 240 easily on a 1.8 with no headwork. but it sounds like you want to drag, and given your history, I'd say 240 wont be good enough for more than a few months.

As for beating a mustang.. think about this a mustand it like 205hp and weights close to 4k, miata with a little itty bitty turbo making 160 at ~2500lbs would **** all over a stang.

just food for thought


As for your suspension.. everyone here will recomend a different suspension but you have to remember many people here do autox and track days. If you want to slam it down get yourself a set of ground controls with a reasonable spring rate 400/300 fr/rr and you can drop it on the screws although if you want to put a set of 16's or 17's its already pretty low.
yeah man that really sounds like good advise. i talked to a local friend and am set on getting the 1.8L for sure. as far as the torsen 3.9 rear i didnt know ALL 97-99's have that, which is great cause thats exactly the year i am starting to look at. 99 might be a little hard but ill try to nab that year specifically. for suspension i want to try autox and road coarses, but im not HARDCORE into it like some people here, so i just want something that will be LOW and COMFORTABLE, as this will be my daily driver. im actually going to start looking for a 97-99 as soon as one of my wifes cars is sold and we have some cash to drop on a miata. come september the subaru is getting parted and sold, and THATS when the fun will begin
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Nice cars, your turbos use to loolk like my house i would have about 25-30 at a time buyinh poilshing and selling them
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:02 AM   #24
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Nice Scoob. The 18G is a good match with the 2.5. Silentbob343 over at NASIOC as well.
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Cool cars.

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and ive been messing with ALOT of different turbo setups on my wrx's:



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How come all your turbos are missing their metal name plates?
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:09 PM   #26
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yeah man that really sounds like good advise. i talked to a local friend and am set on getting the 1.8L for sure. as far as the torsen 3.9 rear i didnt know ALL 97-99's have that, which is great cause thats exactly the year i am starting to look at. 99 might be a little hard but ill try to nab that year specifically. for suspension i want to try autox and road coarses, but im not HARDCORE into it like some people here, so i just want something that will be LOW and COMFORTABLE, as this will be my daily driver. im actually going to start looking for a 97-99 as soon as one of my wifes cars is sold and we have some cash to drop on a miata. come september the subaru is getting parted and sold, and THATS when the fun will begin
not ALL have a torsen but im pretty sure it was the 97-99 (correct me if im wrong) that have the 3.9. I think 94-96 has a 4.1 and so does 00-04 then the new ones i think are back to the 4.3 because of the 6spd. I may be wrong on that one. 99 is NOT a neccessity but if you want a good engine build and you want to do head work, 99 head is the head to go with. once you do autox and a road course you wont go back to a drag strip because there is just too much sitting around for a 13sec thrill. Like i said, ground control allows you to adjust your ride hieght. comfortable means go with a decent spring rate and adjustable shocks for dd and Autox. General consensus here is dont ever buy KYB-AGX, I personally have never had them and havent had experience with them. A good place to look is on Pauls homepage, he has had many different miatas and writes about each of them. his site i think its www.miatamx-5.com it may not have a hiephen

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Correction factor-97-99 is a rare Miata, why, it does not exist!
90-93=1.6 with 6" rear end and some came with VLSDs which are dead by now.
94-95.5=1.8 obd1 came with 7" rear end, some had Torsen some didn't, but they were all 4.1, not 3.9
95.5-97=same as above only obd2
98=does not exist!!!
99-00=newer body style and better flowing head, same block
01-up=high compression and variable timing ang redesigned again

Buy whatever you want! You can make around 250rwhp pretty reliably on a bone stock 1.8 motor, no need to build it, save yoursemlf money. If you buy a Miata with a blown motor, then it only makes sense to throw in at least some rods in there and get your OE pistons ceramic coated, and maybe do some headwork. The 99-00 head is the most sought after simply b/c it has better angles...why the **** am I still typing...use the search button to learn why!

$7K is a very reasonable budget IMO. but then again, I like to save a penny everywhere. Keep in mind, leave room for some 15x8's 6ULs and throw some 225's on there, anything else is just not good enough, I envy all who have them.
Build your own manifold and 3" DP and exhaust (or have your dad do it) and slap one of your Subby snails in there. You can get all your flanges from WieRtech, he is a member here and makes single and twin scroll turbo flanges for just about every turbo.
now quit being a ***** and go make a vid ripping it up in the Subby and come back, that or a vid of your wifey

Good Luck
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And only the 6 speeds in the US have the 3.9 gearing in the rear, none of the 5 speeds do!!!

and those didn't come till 01+
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Nice cars, your turbos use to loolk like my house i would have about 25-30 at a time buyinh poilshing and selling them
haha thanx...you should see my garage the way it is now
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Nice Scoob. The 18G is a good match with the 2.5. Silentbob343 over at NASIOC as well.
haha nice to meet a fellow suby owner. my name is VladiWrX on all subaru sites. 18g is great, but 20g is BEST imo.
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How come all your turbos are missing their metal name plates?
actually only 2 of them are missing plates, the ihi turbo's dont come with name plates, and if you look close enough, youll see the stuff imprinted onto the compressors. the ones that ARE missing the plates are the two mitsubishi g turbos the 18g doesnt have one cause it was from www.turbochargers.com and they dont put that **** on. the 20g cause the company that modified the wastegate flapper to 34mm, harman, removes them since it is then considered a "modified" turbo and cant carry the forced performance name or some bullshit
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not ALL have a torsen but im pretty sure it was the 97-99 (correct me if im wrong) that have the 3.9. I think 94-96 has a 4.1 and so does 00-04 then the new ones i think are back to the 4.3 because of the 6spd. I may be wrong on that one. 99 is NOT a neccessity but if you want a good engine build and you want to do head work, 99 head is the head to go with. once you do autox and a road course you wont go back to a drag strip because there is just too much sitting around for a 13sec thrill. Like i said, ground control allows you to adjust your ride hieght. comfortable means go with a decent spring rate and adjustable shocks for dd and Autox. General consensus here is dont ever buy KYB-AGX, I personally have never had them and havent had experience with them. A good place to look is on Pauls homepage, he has had many different miatas and writes about each of them. his site i think its www.miatamx-5.com it may not have a hiephen

good luck!
thanx ill def hit up that site. are teins liked by people on here and what do yall think of them? i have had two tein coilover setups on my rsx's and wrx and LOVE it....dunno if they are nice for miatas as well

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Correction factor-97-99 is a rare Miata, why, it does not exist!
90-93=1.6 with 6" rear end and some came with VLSDs which are dead by now.
94-95.5=1.8 obd1 came with 7" rear end, some had Torsen some didn't, but they were all 4.1, not 3.9
95.5-97=same as above only obd2
98=does not exist!!!
99-00=newer body style and better flowing head, same block
01-up=high compression and variable timing ang redesigned again

Buy whatever you want! You can make around 250rwhp pretty reliably on a bone stock 1.8 motor, no need to build it, save yoursemlf money. If you buy a Miata with a blown motor, then it only makes sense to throw in at least some rods in there and get your OE pistons ceramic coated, and maybe do some headwork. The 99-00 head is the most sought after simply b/c it has better angles...why the **** am I still typing...use the search button to learn why!

$7K is a very reasonable budget IMO. but then again, I like to save a penny everywhere. Keep in mind, leave room for some 15x8's 6ULs and throw some 225's on there, anything else is just not good enough, I envy all who have them.
Build your own manifold and 3" DP and exhaust (or have your dad do it) and slap one of your Subby snails in there. You can get all your flanges from WieRtech, he is a member here and makes single and twin scroll turbo flanges for just about every turbo.
now quit being a ***** and go make a vid ripping it up in the Subby and come back, that or a vid of your wifey

Good Luck
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haha thanx man. you are typing cause you are helping me and i appreciate it
and i seriously DO appreciate the input, it seems VERY reasonable. thanx again


NOW....................
a couple shitty quality vids of my suby as requested, keep in mind my camera is the biggest pos photo camera so you can imagine the quality of clips, but at least you can see **** lol


first start right after 18g and supporting mods install:


starting to tune it via ecuflash and enginuity, doing the very first couple of datalogs untuned and running PIG RICH/ RIDICULOUSLY conservative at about 14psi:


whoopin up on my buddies 05 sti with a huge fpgreen turbo and front mount intercooler + all supporting mods:


a guy that has a built up eagle talon with a gt35r turbo wanted to run me and see if he could keep up running only 8psi, and failed lol




ill upload a couple more vids in a little bit if anyone is interested
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And only the 6 speeds in the US have the 3.9 gearing in the rear, none of the 5 speeds do!!!

and those didn't come till 01+
I always thought the 3.9 came in 99? I must have been mis-informed.
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99's with the open diff have 4.30s.
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haha thanx...you should see my garage the way it is now

haha nice to meet a fellow suby owner. my name is VladiWrX on all subaru sites. 18g is great, but 20g is BEST imo.
heh, don't own a Subaru yet. Still plan on swapping an L one of these days. It's funny, but I actually got my brother into Subaru. He had an 02 WRX which he recently traded in for an 08 STi.

Just read one of your post and see you have the 20G in. Only slightly less power than a green on pumpgas. What speed did you get up to in the race with your friends STi?

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my bad on that 98!
no need to go all alerty on me! my mistake! I take it back!
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Divac-you only beat that Talon cause he has only one headlight...
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hahha true that man. 2 headlights>one ftw.....

and i didint get it really up to speed in those races, maybe 110 or so.......
today a corvette wanted to "own my family car ***"..HAHAHAHAHAH it ended sadly for him, tho he was a good sport and complimented me on my car
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nice cars!!
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