Think Linux. Rooting a phone is essentially giving you access to the Root directory. The Root directory is usually unfuckwith-able because it contains the important settings and data for the devices OS, and regular consumers would fuck up their phones.
But power users can root their device and do a lot of cool shit with it.

ok that makes a bit of sense.

Food for thought:


I'm actually about to buy one of the Windows Surface Pro tablet pc's next week. I'll then be wiring it into the dash using quick connect/disconnect holders and whatnot. The Surface Pro tablet pic actually comes with the FULL version of windows 8, not just the tablet version. I'm hoping this means that we will be able to use the full version of TS on there as well. If so, this will make a viable option for tuning, as well as music. I'll be using a headphone-RCA adapter cable to run sound from the tablet pc to the amp, and wiring in a USB hub under the dash to run the USB-serial adapter for the MS, as well as an external HDD for music and file storage. I'll also be wiring in an extra power outlet hidden inside the dash to run a power adapter to the tablet for charging while mobile.

I'm not 100% sure that this entire system will work, but if I can make it work, it will be one hell of an in car tuning/music option.

I'll be starting a thread on this once I've picked up all of the parts and keep everyone posted on the outcome. I just thought some of you may be interested in my idea :P

Rooting is something like unlocking the phone to do everything the phone maker forbids you to do, but developers can use the function.

I'm using msdroid trough bluetooth with my MS3x and works fine



Tunerstudio will not work on a windows RT version, thats what i heard.

Windows RT? I'll have to look I to that. I was under the impression the new surface pro had the full windows 8...

ah yes i see, the new surface pro has windows 8 on it, but better check twice if you have the right windows and not windows RT

This topic should be changed to "is anyone using msdroid on MS3Pro?

It is giving me fits.

I ordered a USB OTG cable for my GNex, and it came in last night.. Plugged it in, and before I could even click anything, MSDroid popped up, noticed it, asked if i wanted to connect, and BOOM! I was live. It was easier than TunerStudio! I needed to tweak some idle fueling, ridiculously easy to do.

If they ask for donations, I am MORE than willing to donate. I'm VERY impressed with how well this works for a free android app thats still in its early stages.

So, I've downloaded MSDroid to my original Nexus 7. I have Reverend-built MS2. Have an OTG cable, USB to micro-USB.

Should things just connect? Or do I need some sort of Bluetooth device? This would be really useful to try and understand my recent no-start issues.

Do you have a USB/Serial converter? If so, you should just be able to plug in your connections so you are connected to the MS, and it should work. You may need to install a USB OTG Helper app on your nexus.

I believe the Nexus 7 needs to be rooted to work, but I am not positive. I do know it needs to be rooted and a different kernel to have charging and USB connected to it.

I do have Serial to USB, of course, to plug into regular Windows laptop with Tuner Studio. I'll try to hook up USB OTG between that USB connector and Nexus 7 and see if Nexus sees MS from MSDroid. The question is - what OTG helper, if any, I might need.

As far as rooting - Nexus doesn't see external storage (like USB sticks) without rooting. But, in theory, it should see some USB devices, I just don't know which ones. The car is an hour away so no easy way to try for a while. And I have no interest in rooting Nexus if I can avoid it.