Baseman needed please
 

Apparently I can't figure out how to setup my ms1 properly. Can someone help me with a base map please
029y firmware
91 miata
Toyota cop
T28 turbo
Rc 440 injectors high imp
Fmic
3in exhaust
Dual feed rail
Brp7es plugs
Aem wide band

93 octane.
Gm iat
No afm

Are you looking for a 1st baseman, 2nd baseman, or pitcher?

I heard Jeter is old and tired. He might be available soon.

Are we certain the OP isn't looking for a catcher?

bravo.

Sorry autocorrect on my phone changed it. But I am looking for a basemap

OP is definitely a catcher, looking for a pitcher.

I see this has turned into a post where I am gay and no useful info will come. Glad I joined this forum. Off to a great start

Oh no he is disappointed with the forum, whatever will we do.

Have you tried DIYautotunes basemaps? No one here is going to just make you a base map, what are we, your basemen? Find someones build thread that is similar to yours, and politely ask them via PM for their map, start there. Or use one of DIY's. Or one of the many already posted here.

Whining about it will just make us harder, and all the pitchers here will line up for you to catch us.

I have tried to load other basemaps but they are for different firmware so they don't load correctly. I am basically looking for how to setup everything properly. Most write ups are geared towards ms2 or ms3 and have setting that I don't have so it doesn't help me very much

Have you ever considered flashing to firmware that works with the basemaps you have?!?

That's the point, you're supposed to look at others' maps and populate your own while taking theirs into consideration. You don't just load theirs in.

That's lazy and stupid, and a very good way to break stuff.

I have the latest firmware i can load on my ms1. The ms2/ms3 I am not able to load their firmware. I have looked at other msq that were posted and I'm not exactly sure what all everything is and what I need to change. But I've fried my stock coil and nowhere cop setup I guess. Just trying to figure out what the hell I am doing wrong. Trust me this is my last resort. I have spend 4 weeks trying to figure this out. I am a tech by trade so by no means am I dumb. I have diagnosed alot on this car but this last step seem to be the one giving my the most issues. I wish I would have went ems. This megasquirt seems like a huge pile of shit. Way to generic for my tastes and one wrong setting there goes a couple hundred bucks.

Techsalvager?

I'd love to see you try another EMS and report back. Go ahead and try a Hydra, its $2,000 so it must be awesome right?

I bolded the area you need to address 1st and foremost: figure out what each of those things actually does. That will be a good start.

Dude.

I have trouble believing you've been working at this for 4 weeks if you don't understand why you can't load MS2/MS3 firmware on a MS1.

Being a tech (whatever that means) and saying you're not dumb does not disqualify you from being dumb.

Being smart does that.

Loading firmware isn't my issue. I have it loaded and its great. I can't load the firmware for the ms2/ms3 stuff. I am away of what most of the settings are that I am playing with I'm just not sure what the differences are between my setting that don't work and other msq that I have seen that do work. Until I can figure that out I am not able to enjoy my car. I have spent 4 weeks trying to figure this out. I get about 2 hours a night on weekdays to play with it. So 10 hours a week. I have followed many write ups on setting up the megasquirt but many seem to be using megatune which I am using tunerstudio so I dig through the little settings I have to try to configure it the same

Start reading the mega manual here. It will teach you everything you need to know about running a Megasquirt. Then after you have been through it 2 or 3 times and you still have questions come ask. From just a brief look at your first post you should be able to get running with a DIY basemap with changing the required fuel and dwell settings. Also posting logs of what is happening when you try to start the car and a MSQ file of your current tune would also be helpful.

Being a tech means I'm a technician. I work on cars for a living. I work at a Chrysler dealership and before the Chrysler I was at gm. I have a associates degree in automotive and high performance from northwestern ohion

But I am severely megasquirt dumb. I am trying to lean it but its not like it comes with a manual or anything. I know what most things are just not sure what I have wrong

I am currently running a stock basemap with the dwell settings changed to 3.5ms cranking 2.5 running and .5 discharge. I have changed the settings for injectors to 440s. When I crank its just showing its opening the injectors and I'm getting 330s rpm while cranking. I have read a very large portion of the mega manual in the past weeks and when I modified my board

When I get out of work I will post up my msq but I won't get home for another 5hrs

so you're trying to load ms2/ms3 firmware on an ms1? and you still don't know what's wrong? Time to do A LOT of reading to figure out why that won't work

No that's not it. I have stated a couple times to those that were posting before that I not able to flash the ms2/3 firmware so the basemaps they were directing me to wont work. I know it won't work with a ms1. I'm going to try to go inverted spark and see if that helps.

The link to the manual for Megasquirt has literally been posted in this thread.

well here is an update, did some more testing, I can get spark on cylinder 1 and 4 individually but not together, they are ran off the brown/yellow wire, I don't get any spark off cylinder 2 or 3 which triggers are tied into the brown wire off the ignitor harness, I cant find a setting in tuner studio for wasted spark setup plus not sure how to get it to drive two cylinders at the same time not just the one

You are running COPS? (That's the dwell you have set for spark.)

yes I am running the Toyota cops. I have set the dwell as per the write up at 3.5s cranking 2.5 running

Did you have everything running fine pre-COPs?

I was unable to test it pre cop I had a bad coil from last summer. I don't have another stock coil to test with

I tried to revert back. There are still 2 good towers on my stock coil cylinder 3 and 4 I couldn't get spark on either. I'm lost and confused. I don't care which system to run as long as I can get one to run

Yet again you have yet to post any logs or even your msq file for us to look at. Without those we have no clue what you are doing wrong. Who built the MS? What type of harness is it using?

I am no using a harness I hard wired it to my factory harness and soldered all connections. My msq file is the stock basemap using the afm

sounds like a wiring error, or that your stock coilpack was fine, by something happened to one of the spark outputs on the megasquirt long ago.

Every single sign points to you being completely clueless about wiring/soldering/ and whatever you meant by "modifying the board"

and I don't say this to try to be a jerk to you

I say this because I really think you should either remove the MS and have someone that knows what they're doing make sure all your "modifications" and wiring are in order, or seriously stop being silly and start posting msq, logs, and tons of pictures as well as detailed descriptions of how you have everything connected and set up, so that someone might be able to help you.

Good luck

I am aware of how to solder I didn't build the board. It was built fort friend whom I bought it off of. He had a forum
Member build it. I don't know what forum or who build it. I can't take any logs it doesn't record any data when I try. I can try to post up my msq I'm new to this forum aoninhave to figure out how to do so. I will also snap many pics tonight of everything and post it all. I would really like to get this up and running. :(

Would it matter that the ms was built for a 96 originally?

My stock coil pack the towers started falling apart and the plastic got down inside and melted on the contact that why I'm not able to use my stock coil but the outermost two towes are still good that's what I was trying to use to diagnose my no spark. It happend at the end of last summer that's when I parked it and started the turbo build. So it happend before the ms1 was installed

trainwreck.

Why do you say that?

Almost sounds like I need to sell this thing and buy a new one that's not assembled like a ms3 and have you (brain) build it. I've seen alot of threads where people are very happy with your builds

have you read your thread?

Yes

This is a classic example of why I tell all the noobs to install a MS before they add on the turbo. This way you have far less problems and issues to trouble shoot.

YES!!!

Sounds like it was assembled by semi-retarded baboons and is a royal trainwreck.

Its not the MS' fault, its the monkeys' that assembled it fault.

Yea my friend has a ms2 ok his e30 he loves it. I think it would be a good computer/tuning setup of it were built correctly. I just need to find someone who could assemble it correctly so I can move forward I would like to keep my ignition setup stock. My build isn't crazy not looking for massive hp. Nothing stock coil couldn't do. Anyone you know of build them for a decent price?

MS Labs makes and sells MS for the miata that are PNP and have awesome support.

We should sticky this thread as a perfect example of why most people on here buy fully assembled and pnp Megasquirts for their cars.

Or could be a perfect example why not to buy ms that was used and assembled by someone who doesn't know what they were doing. Thanks for the link I will check it out. Looking at buying ms2 PCb 3.0

Reverant makes and sells many different versions. He has a sub section in the Vendor section of the forum that has many threads on the different versions he has.

I can't imagine why throwing a hacked MS1 that was untested into a car and hard-wired into said car with no definitive guarantee that the wiring is 100% correct all while throwing a turbo at it plus bigger injectors and COPS on top isn't working.

Maybe that's why I'm slow and change one thing at a time. Kinda like the idea eliminating introducing several new variables at once and stuff. Makes issues a bit easier to narrow down. But I'm not a certified tech, though.

The ms1 came out if a car that I herd run I was able to test it with a DIY Bob I believe they call it. That takes a 9v battery. Hard wired it in and went from there. But decided to buy one and has it built by someone who is good with ms. Plus ms1 doesn't have alot of options. I went cop due to my coil being bad and couldn't source one but I got the coils free so I tried that and had some luck but time for ms2

I left enough wire on the stock plugs to revert back jut in case so I'm happy I did that and I only cut the wires that I needed so many are still untouched

Good idea.

A properly assembled ms2 is much much better than ms1.

That's what my googling has showed me as well. Time to cut my losses on this ms1

The thing is that over the course of the past 6-7 years there have been several different ways to build an MS1 to run on a miata. When I first built mine in 2007 I was running the Kingofl33t mods on mine. There are probably only 2 or 3 dozen people on here now who have any clue what those are. The circuits for spark control and a ton of other things have been improved over the years, and depending on which circuits you built can change the settings that need to be set to get it working. Without knowing which circuits were built and how it can be hard to troubleshoot an MS1.

Thank you that's exactly where I am with this ms1. I'm digging trough lists of mods to try and figure out what is what but its confusing and my knowledge isn't as full as it should be since I didn't built it. I'm not exactly sure were this and that spot is or what this part is called as its in this spot. It makes it tricky. But DIY autotune sells the built ms2 for 432 or something like that. I'm going to buy that one and start over plus ms2 is way better from what I've seen

Buy a MS from reverant on here. You will spend a bit more, but in the long run it will be easier for you.

Yea I'm trying to find him currently