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sickmiatabra 08-27-2015 02:01 PM

braineack built ms3. alternator control? help im stranded
 
So I thought I had a bad battery recently, same time I installed my ms3. Acid was everywhere and smelled horrible.

I replaced yesterday, drive about 15minutes and the same exact thing has taken place.

Checked the base tune I've barely modified and the alternator control is off.

As soon as the car is started, it goes from 12.7v to 17v and that is when acid starts spurting out of the battery case.

I've been in a parking lot try to get settings online.

I copied one to the best I could but for the control output I do not have pwm3.

I have it on high frequency .... Like the thread said.

I tried output nitrous1 and another and nothing Changed. Battery jumps to 17v the second the car is turned on.

This is a 2000 nb with a braineack built ms3. Can anyone help??!

shuiend 08-27-2015 02:08 PM

You have like the worst luck with MS's out of anyone I have seen. This sounds like something is going wrong with either the alternator, or alternator control on the MS.

WestfieldMX5 08-27-2015 02:26 PM

Well, if alternator control is off like you say, then what you're seeing is normal. As soon as you start the car, the alternator will try to charge as high as it can if you're not controlling it.
Either switch on alternator control or install a separate controller board.

sickmiatabra 08-27-2015 02:29 PM

I do have the worst luck. I fix one issue to discover another haha. And I turned it on as I said earlier. Nothing happened. That's why I made the thread.

I know it's the settings because everything functioned properly when the stock ecu was in.

I'm asking for settings for alt control as there is a lot of variables

shuiend 08-27-2015 02:30 PM

1 Attachment(s)
This is a screen shot of my alternator settings. This was a basemap from Braineack being used to control my 99. I think your settings should be very close if not exactly the same as this.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1440700236

sickmiatabra 08-27-2015 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1260846)
This is a screen shot of my alternator settings. This was a basemap from Braineack being used to control my 99. I think your settings should be very close if not exactly the same as this.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1440700236

I just input these exact settings and nothing happened :( jumped and help at 17.8 volts for the 20 seconds I let it run. Fml

shuiend 08-27-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by sickmiatabra (Post 1260851)
I just input these exact settings and nothing happened :( jumped and help at 17.8 volts for the 20 seconds I let it run. Fml

Did you burn the settings, then power cycle the MS?

sickmiatabra 08-27-2015 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1260855)
Did you burn the settings, then power cycle the MS?

Good ol' power cycle! It's working. Holding 14.5v as we speak. I didn't want my laptop to die so I quickly closed it when I realized settings didn't. I never got the power cycle needed warning. Thank you! Back on the road again!

Braineack 08-27-2015 03:11 PM

i leave my desk for one hour...

sickmiatabra 08-27-2015 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1260875)
i leave my desk for one hour...

Haha. I should have skimmed through the base tune to get familiar with all the new features. I remember all the hype about alt control and it would have triggered me if I had seen it off. No worries at all. My other battery was old anyways. Just have some cleaning up to do in the trunk

atli126 07-13-2020 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1260846)
This is a screen shot of my alternator settings. This was a basemap from Braineack being used to control my 99. I think your settings should be very close if not exactly the same as this.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1440700236

Hi
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...05e87cee96.jpg
​​Hi guys im having the same of the same odd voltage spike issues and I fixed it before but don't remember what setting I chose. These are my options now. Can you assist?

irodd 07-14-2020 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 1576112)
Hi
​​Hi guys im having the same of the same odd voltage spike issues and I fixed it before but don't remember what setting I chose. These are my options now. Can you assist?

for 99-05
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3a0e48e45d.jpg


atli126 07-16-2020 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by irodd (Post 1576192)


The issue is I don't have the ability to choose that option. Maybe my ms3 needs a firmware update?

irodd 07-16-2020 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 1576405)
The issue is I don't have the ability to choose that option. Maybe my ms3 needs a firmware update?

try "closed loop field control"

atli126 07-16-2020 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by irodd (Post 1576406)
try "closed loop field control"


Should have said that. I tried that too. Here is my new thread https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...1/#post1576398

Reverant 07-16-2020 02:17 PM

How old is your MS3? If you have a firmware older than V1.3.0 IIRC the alternator control wasn't available so you most likely have an separate alternator control board.

atli126 07-16-2020 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by atli126 (Post 1576407)
Should have said that. I tried that too. Here is my new thread https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...1/#post1576398


I can select that but it still Happens plus I don't know what the correct settings it should be for it?

atli126 07-17-2020 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1576416)
How old is your MS3? If you have a firmware older than V1.3.0 IIRC the alternator control wasn't available so you most likely have an separate alternator control board.


Hmm I'm not sure. How can I find out? Is it in the settings in tuner studio?

Reverant 07-17-2020 03:04 AM

Based on your reply, I won't recommend trying to update the firmware yourself, find a reputable tuner who can update the firmware to a stable version (hint: V1.4.0 has been the most stable for me so far) and tune your car.

atli126 07-17-2020 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1576487)
Based on your reply, I won't recommend trying to update the firmware yourself, find a reputable tuner who can update the firmware to a stable version (hint: V1.4.0 has been the most stable for me so far) and tune your car.


Thanks ill get with my buddy who tuned it for me. They did recommend I try to update the firmware but be cautious.

Thanks,
Bret




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